Which FPS Actually Takes Skill?

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chris89300

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Quake and the original CS, not that 1.6 or Source bullshit, the ones with the shitty graphics, they're less of a pain on the eyes and let you concentrate more on fragging :D.
 

thahat

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gears of war 1, not 2, but 1.
havent found anything ever that rivled it realy in fun/chalange/reward factor..
 

Taluien

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Skill... what even measures as skill? To some it is the factor of reaction time. Or aiming correctly. Or maybe knowing the map and the movement patterns, possible fire sectors and so on. For some, a certain weapon or weapon type requires more skill than another.

I think wether a FPS gives you a challenge and makes it fun for you to play it is completely up to you, the player.

As an example I have played BFBC2 MP quite a bit lately and enjoyed it very much. It' just a game that scratches my personal itches. I have tried Halo and CoD. They were fun, but not really a favourite of mine. Nevertheless, I would never tell anyone that they are idiots for liking these two games. Not everyone likes the same games. So, if they are happy and entertained by something that I myself don't like that much, why should I try to impose my way of play on them?

That being said, I find it highly annoying that many people indulge in fanboywars. Just have fun with what you play, maybe try out something new every once in a while and let everyone who does not want to play your favourite just do their thing. You are not on a holy crusade in the name of your divine FPS god of enjoyment.
 

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Deshara said:
Not Red Orchestra, but that's the point.

Umm... I've noticed how COD players SUCK when they try to play Bad Company 2, even if that game got on it's knees for COD
Agree! I play both and I have to take the time to re-learn the pacing of each game.
 

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Ramare said:
Deshara said:
COD players SUCK when they try to play Bad Company 2
I don't know how true that may hold with others, but with me it's rather bullshit.

See, while they may be very, very different...They both have their vices.

Call of Duty has you sprinting around sniping people with assault rifles, and plastering people with shotguns, and akimbo machine pistols. Bad Company has you driving around in tanks, APCs, and helicopters nuking everyone.

So if a complete "noob-tard" was to play either, they could still win. Guns are about the same. Minus, of course, snipers with bolt-actions being able to work the bolt while still scoping (As fucking IF!).

Assault rifles are still rifles that can go full-auto if necessary, SMGs can still snipe you, grenade/rocket launchers are still bullshit, frags are spammable and easy to kill with, the only actual differences are that snipers are common, yet still infuriatingly kill-joy, there's vehicles, and the maps are bigger than my backyard.

Sure, a guy that uses machine pistols and shotguns exclusively will get his arse handed to him, depending on map, but you could still play both the same, pretty much. Unless you quick-scope. Or camp. Or want a sniper rifle and shotgun at the same time. Or rocket spam, unless you have an assault backing you up.

Disclaimer: This may just be my play-style that lets me play both seamlessly, without really changing much. Also, no harm or offense was meant, by any part of this post. Unless you're a CoD quick-scoper, or BC2 heli-whore. You know who you are. And, yes, I know that both require skill AND practice, but you cannot tell me they're not both bullshittingly overpowered. And I also agree that CoD players are all lone wolf, and that's the complete opposite of BC2's squad-mentality oriented players.
This. I much prefer the snipers in bad company 2.
 

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TerranReaper said:

This image just about sums my thoughts...
^This.

Props to TF2 for actually getting into professional gaming.

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Fanboys should stop calling skill an opinion. That would make me very happy. Not having to find all these "Pr0 bLacKOpz Fr4g" videos on youtube with Drowning Pool. I dont think even mw2 made it into tourneys...
 

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i hate how many games unlock things based on how often you've played rather than how good you are... good examples are reach and COD... if i win the game none of the people above me should be able to unlock things like inclement weather or the AK47, but they do because they've played more. it makes it more difficult for me because (in COD) the weapons you unlock at higher levels are better, and in halo it's just annoying to see some little piece of crap with nicer armor than you because he spams griffball

in terms of skill i would say CS:S is a true test of skill, there aren't many ways to break the game or use cheap strategies

aside from that, games with high speed motion and balanced weapons tend to take a decent amount of skill
 

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As ninjad on the first page - Cod Hardcore.
No crosshairs, no hud telling you about ammo, no map. Just your actual sight and hearing, in an environment, where the very first hit will take you down. In cod4, a better player with an Usp (the very first handgun unlocked) will beat someone running around with a p90 (pretty much the only gun that's notably better then the rest). At least, it's by far the most demanding game I've played so far, since there's nothing but the players very own skills, in maneuvering, sneaking, spotting and marksmanship to rely on, with everything else basically turned off, and the weapons differences nullified due to massive lethality.
Of course, then treyarch came, fucked the hit detection up royally, and managed to create guns that are actually unbalanced in such an environment - a feat worthy of a medal, and probably several years in prison.
 

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Halo, in regards to console FPS games.


Battlefield 2, Counter Strike, Quake (all of them), Unreal Tournament '99, 2k3/2k4.

thahat said:
gears of war 1, not 2, but 1.
havent found anything ever that rivled it realy in fun/chalange/reward factor..
Not an FPS, but I agree. Gears 2 was skill-less trash. Gears 1 required individual skill and versatility. That is, when the host wasn't just walking around with a 1-hit headshot shotgun with a sniper's range.
 

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tomany2 said:
I Started playing Counterstrike Source after about 8 months away from it, and between all the Call Of Duty, and Bad Company, I lost the ability to actually kill something in CS:S.

So I ask all of you, What FPS's actually take skill to play online?

For Me Call Of Duty, and The Recent Battlefields are like a cake walk. they are so simple.

But in my opinion, the FPS's that actually DO take skill, would be...

CS:S and Battlefield 2 (the one from 2005 for PC, not Bad Company 2)

EDIT: Lots of people say that "All Multiplayer Games Take Skill" and i agree to that. BUT things like CS:S and Battlefield 2 do take a lot longer to learn, rather than Bad Co or COD, which can be picked up by even the newest gamers, and they can get kills, but this is also true for CS:S and BF2. 'Cause my sister cant play COD for her life, but is the top of the leaderboard for both CS:S and BF2 in most the games that she joins.
Arguably, that's a bad thing. Easy to learn, and hard to master and all that...
Oh... And Halo. Interestingly you left that out. I take it that wasn't deliberate?
 

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Yeah Counterstrike is pretty much the gold standard for competitive FPSs. A lot of gamers don't realize how serious that game is Europe. Players have made millions (not exaggeration) playing that game. None of the modern FPSs are even close. I guess TF2 is closest. (Let's not lie, mouse and keyboard is so much better than a pad for fpss).
 

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All counter Strike games require skill to play. More so than COD and the new Battlefield games. One other game that is quite hard is Crysis. You can't just spray and expect a kill because you actually have a large healthbar.
 

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Cogwheel said:
From what I hear, Rainbow Six is very tricky to learn.
It's quite simple from what I've played.

ArmA II: Operation Arrowhead, honestly, you need a degree to know how to kill something on that game.
 

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Atmos Duality said:
Arcane Azmadi said:
The Tribes series. What's more important than knowing how to shoot? Knowing how to fly!
Fly, shoot, AND kill with weapons that largely have low shot velocities.
You learn physics really damn fast in Tribes.

thenumberthirteen said:
Well SWAT 4 requires different skills to other FPSs. Like how to clear a room full of armed and armoured bank robbers without killing or injuring anybody.

A good SWAT commander can go in with nothing more than a TASER and a Wiffle Bat, and bring everyone out alive.
silenced 9MM SMG with FMJ rounds.
If you know where to aim, you can always incap rather than kill with the SMG..
Well, yes, that works, but you get points taken off for extra use of force.

I'm going with SWAT4 too though, that game is hard.
 

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Sn1P3r M98 said:
Well, yes, that works, but you get points taken off for extra use of force.

I'm going with SWAT4 too though, that game is hard.
If you do the "duck call" method of Silenced sniping, it works exceptionally well.

When you call for compliance, enemies only know what your initial position is. If they come running in pointing guns at anyone, it's fair game. Also, the FMJ bullets do less damage to "meat" so you can safely shoot weapons and legs; an unarmed suspect will ALWAYS comply if you call for it.
 

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Haven't played all FPS games, but these are the ones I think take skill:

Operation Flashpoint (see a tiny thing moving 300m away? Better duck and cover or your ass is history), of course followed by the Arma series and OF2.

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. (charging into 5 enemies, not a good idea)

Counter Strike (1.6 or Source, really doesn't matter)

Unreal Tournament (only played the 98 version, but it took skill)

That was in decending order. Seems I like some realism in my FPS
 

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LifeCharacter said:
Umm they all do to a certain extent, if the multiplayer is easier for everyone that means that everyone else has a good chance of killing you too.
I'd have to agree with this, I'm terrible at FPS because I am not skilful in any of them including COD, so yeah all games require some skill including FPS