Which franchise did Hollywood ruin more? Twilight or Eragon?

[Gladion]

Wait a minute. Eragon + well-written? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Eragon the book written by a talent-free underaged boy who had just discovered the fantasy genre and felt like writing an uninspired, mediocre story?

 

[Piorn]

I only read Eragon and really like the book, but the movie was terrible.
But seriously, this almost always happens when people try to convert stories from one medium to another. It happens when someone turns a book into a movie and it happens when someone turns movies into games.
It's about time we just get used to it and ignore those abominations.

 

[Kiefer13]

Both Twilight and Eragon had humble beginnings as charming, well written, and fairly successful fantasy novels.

I almost fell off my chair.

Anyway, I don't think the Twilight movie had much to ruin, but to be perfectly honest, neither did the Eragon one. The book was a dull, medicore clichefest. The film was worse. But at least I could read more than a few pages of Eragon without my brains threatening to dribble out of my nose, which is more than I can say for Twilight.

 

[ajb924]

Eragon, you see in order to be ruined you had to be good in the first place *glares at twilight*

 

[Skreeee]

I'm sure it's been said, so I'll pretend to have read all other posts and agree with anyone who said Eragon because with Twilight there was nothing to ruin that it didn't already do itself while still only in book form.

 

[the_unseen]

where's the choice for "Hollywood's touch brings nothing but death and decimation to every adaptation it creates and a summary execution for all interest in the originals, adaptations and hope in humanity's future."? I would pick that one. also why no poll?

 

[Cody211282]

I only read Eragon and really like the book, but the movie was terrible.
But seriously, this almost always happens when people try to convert stories from one medium to another. It happens when someone turns a book into a movie and it happens when someone turns movies into games.
It's about time we just get used to it and ignore those abominations.

Hey the first Jurassic Park was good!

 

[Piorn]

I only read Eragon and really like the book, but the movie was terrible.
But seriously, this almost always happens when people try to convert stories from one medium to another. It happens when someone turns a book into a movie and it happens when someone turns movies into games.
It's about time we just get used to it and ignore those abominations.

Hey the first Jurassic Park was good!

I said 'almost always' because I wanted to avoid such replies, I admit there are good movie adaptions, but there are still enough of the disappointing kind.
In the end ,it depends purely on your own taste anyway.

 

[The_Echo]

Love the Inheritance Cycle, but the Eragon movie was a waste of my time.

Twilight, on the other hand, was horrible to begin with. Stupid plot, retard characters, glittery vampires, a fandom that treats the books like the Bible, and worst of all, bad writing. I took a look at one page from Twilight and puked a little when all I saw was a conversation that went on, and on, and on. Most of which was "He said." or "She said." I couldn't tell who was talking, or what their tone was. Just awful from a writing standpoint. There's no way it could have been ruined more.

 

[Anachronism]

Surely Star Wars is the holy temple to which you are referring, and Christopher Paolini is the one who trashed it? Paolini looted and plundered everything of value from this particular temple, took a few minutes to damage some of the artefacts, and put them on display in his own, hastily constructed temple, claiming that they were his own.

I'm relatively certain that the last book in the series will end with a huge battle outside Uru'Baen, while Eragon sneaks into the city to kill Galbatorix. He and Murtagh will fight, and Murtagh will be defeated. Galbatorix will then proceed to kill Eragon with force lightning magic, but Murtagh, seeing his brother dying, will intervene and kill Galbatorix. Because he swore to serve him, however, Murtagh will die.

Sound familiar?

Since we're on the topic of being unoriginal, can we agree that Star Wars isn't exactly narrative genius? Absolutely, the movies were excellent, that's not my argument. My point is that Star Wars wasn't the pioneer of any of it's themes or plot twists, it just became the source material for a new generation to copy.

Don't worry, it's quite difficult to disagree on that, and I'm certainly not going to. While I love the movies to death, I'm well aware that there are probably a dozen Japanese movies you can mention and point out ideas or themes that Star Wars got from them. Hell, the idea of telling the story from R2-D2 and C-3PO's perspective was pretty much lifted directly from Hidden Fortress. The movies had all the classic fantasy cliches: the naive farm boy, the likeable rogue, the wise old wizard, the princess, the dark lord, etc.

What I love about the movies is that they took all these fantasy cliches and made them new again by updating them to a sci-fi setting. While a lot of people think of them as sci-fi films, I maintain that they're just as much fantasy as anything else, if not more so, and that was where they really shone: they took classic fantasy stories and updated them for a modern world.

 

[Cody211282]

I only read Eragon and really like the book, but the movie was terrible.
But seriously, this almost always happens when people try to convert stories from one medium to another. It happens when someone turns a book into a movie and it happens when someone turns movies into games.
It's about time we just get used to it and ignore those abominations.

Hey the first Jurassic Park was good!

I said 'almost always' because I wanted to avoid such replies, I admit there are good movie adaptions, but there are still enough of the disappointing kind.
In the end ,it depends purely on your own taste anyway.

True true, but at least we can agree that Eragon was crap, also why cant they make a good game movie anyway?

 

[sin keon]

offtopic

someone above stated that 'the eldest'the movie would be good or at least better.

I doubt it though, if they continue their halfbaked bastardisation they'll need to ruin the story even more!*sigh*

 

[Hellsbells]

Reasons I hate Twilight: 1) It completely slaughtered what vampires are and turned them into glowing, sexual, nocturnal elves. 2) the writing itself wasnt very good and yet people praise it for being an amazing work of literature. 3) all the obnoxious screaming fan-girls!

Reasons I hate Eragon: Large amounts of copying from Lord of the Rings and Star Wars.

Reasons I like Twilight: The (very few) action scenes and the super-vampires (the italian people...). Personally I dont think the good outway the bad.

Reasons I like Eragon: Some cool original stuff, well written and all and all entertaining. Although the un-original ness of the general story bothers me the details are creative and entertaining. All in all a good book.

I have not seen the Twilight movie nor will I, I did see the eragon movie and hated it. I have read the first 2 Twilight books and all of the Inheritance books. So urm yah...

 

[Riding on Thermals]

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Don't worry, it's quite difficult to disagree on that, and I'm certainly not going to. While I love the movies to death, I'm well aware that there are probably a dozen Japanese movies you can mention and point out ideas or themes that Star Wars got from them. Hell, the idea of telling the story from R2-D2 and C-3PO's perspective was pretty much lifted directly from Hidden Fortress. The movies had all the classic fantasy cliches: the naive farm boy, the likeable rogue, the wise old wizard, the princess, the dark lord, etc.

What I love about the movies is that they took all these fantasy cliches and made them new again by updating them to a sci-fi setting. While a lot of people think of them as sci-fi films, I maintain that they're just as much fantasy as anything else, if not more so, and that was where they really shone: they took classic fantasy stories and updated them for a modern world.

Absolutely, that's exactly why Star Wars still deserves praise. It took classic narrative elements and composed them in ways that were intriguing and compelling. And since there's simply no way to have a truly "original" idea any more, writing prowess is derived from being able to take old ideas and rework them. So while Eragon was unoriginal, so are a lot of things.

Conversely, writing a vampire novel where your characters can exist in sunlight is kind of... original, right? Insipid, but original.

 

[ConnorCool]

Eragon, I wanted to cry it was really that terrible. I loved them books

and Twilight was a terrible film, I saw it without even knwing that it was a book, and I knew nothing of the fanboyism, so I went in with an open mind to it, and it was so goddamn awful

 

[Cody211282]

Eragon, I wanted to cry it was really that terrible. I loved them books

and Twilight was a terrible film, I saw it without even knwing that it was a book, and I knew nothing of the fanboyism, so I went in with an open mind to it, and it was so goddamn awful

ya i knew nothing about it untill i heard about every girl 13-30 in this crappy ass town squeal at anyone who would listen about the damn thing, i took that as a big warning sign and stayed away.

 

[Ginjer Kid]

Definitely Eragon, Both movies may not have been great in fans eyes (especially eragon), but the hype surrounding Twilight (which I never read or watched) got a large group of people to actually read the book.
Eragon just blew, and probably turned people off from the book.

 

[ConnorCool]

Eragon, I wanted to cry it was really that terrible. I loved them books

and Twilight was a terrible film, I saw it without even knwing that it was a book, and I knew nothing of the fanboyism, so I went in with an open mind to it, and it was so goddamn awful

ya i knew nothing about it untill i heard about every girl 13-30 in this crappy ass town squeal at anyone who would listen about the damn thing, i took that as a big warning sign and stayed away.

well I took my girlfriend to see it, bad move. she got slightly obsessed with the main guy, which was horrific, but its all over now.

on a different note, how stupid is the fact that the vampires are shiny, I mean, who the hell thought of that??? well obviously the writer, but its just silly really

 

[Cody211282]

Eragon, I wanted to cry it was really that terrible. I loved them books

and Twilight was a terrible film, I saw it without even knwing that it was a book, and I knew nothing of the fanboyism, so I went in with an open mind to it, and it was so goddamn awful

ya i knew nothing about it untill i heard about every girl 13-30 in this crappy ass town squeal at anyone who would listen about the damn thing, i took that as a big warning sign and stayed away.

well I took my girlfriend to see it, bad move. she got slightly obsessed with the main guy, which was horrific, but its all over now.

on a different note, how stupid is the fact that the vampires are shiny, I mean, who the hell thought of that??? well obviously the writer, but its just silly really

Ya i just sat down my girl after the move and had her watch Lostboys and Salems Lot, that cleared that up quickly.

 

[Player 2]

I don't think it was possible to ruin either of them, both series sucked already.