which non legendary Pokemon is the best?

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emeraldrafael said:
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There is nothing more fun than giving Vapoureon leftovers and setting up an Ingrain Aqua Ring and, if you're feeling mean, Leech Seed combo.
And if you want to be really mean, add wish (personally, i think it should always be on Vaporeon, since its an option and a great team move) and Toxic just to win on a stall. Since you can open up the last move for Surf and half a mono attack Vaporeon.
Aqua Ring, Wish, Double Team and Toxic. Wins you matches and loses you friends.
 

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Aggron. Would you like to know why? The answer is simple. Because it is an Aggron! These guys are like a badass metal tyrannosaurus/triceratops combo. This guy can cut through bedrock with its horns! Says so in the game's pokedex! You guys ain't got nothin' on Aggron.
 

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This isnt just against you, and I'm going to ask on the video, but how does Magikarp outspeed all those legendaries? Baton Pass granted, but still.
EV trained, Right Nature and good old swift swim.
EDIT: Although with Rayquaza's Air Lock at the end, I'm sure. Although seeing as they're all shiny and called "gods" my guess is they're hacked and not trained right, if at all.
 

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I say it's snorlax. That Pokemon just rocks! With the right attacks, it can be one of the most powerful non legendary Pokemons.
 

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Hm... thats true. I forgot the Drizzle effect. EDIT: Thats what I thought too when I saw them just being Shiny. The odds of that happening in Nature in the game, with soft reset is astronamically unlikely. TO find any pokemon shiny alone is unlikely.

Also, towards your other post, I like that, I'll have to farm a vaporeon with that moveset. I always kept a STAB Surf so I didnt have to wait for Toxic to run its course. What EV training do you use for that set? I've always sunk Sp. Atk EVs into attack just because I had STAB Surf.

OT: I just thought of another. Guts Ursaring. My friend always used this set against me and always ticked me off. Until we battled ante up style and he lost that Ursaring in a battle.

It runs like this:
Lv. 100 Adamant Nature, Flame Orb (doesnt take away the Attack like others do and burn does less damge per turn) Guts Ability.

Moves: Facade
Earthquake
Crunch
Fire Punch

EVs: 252 Attack, 228 HP, 18 Defense, 12 Sp. Defense.

If he's passed some speed and a single Swords Dance, his attack stat literally goes up into the thousands. Add in Guts and base 140 STAB Facade.
 

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As others have said, Garchomp. Bulky as Swamepert, while having a 130 base attack, and a 102 base speed, allowing it to outrun Salemence, its closest competitor, along with STAB Earthquake, and with sandstorm, it gets a evasion boost, meaning it could cost you the whole game if your counter misses and gets KOed.
 

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zarix2311 said:
My friend is obsessed with Pokemon and he asked me this, but I had no idea so I thought I would bring it here and ask. So, which none legendary Pokemon is the best?
Best in terms of battling in the games Salamance, Garchomp and Wobuffet. They are 3 nonlegendaries on the uber list. If you are wondering in terms of people liking that thats a complete matter of opinion.
 

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emeraldrafael said:
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Counter Snip
My brother ran a similar set-up but used tangled feet instead, ensuring that he was always fastest. First move Swords dance, every move after Facade. I've watched him take down entire teams after that first move, he's not allowed use it anymore.
 

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My favourite is Mamoswine.
He's FAST, surprisingly fast, he's got a really good attack, the ice type is a good offensive type, and he can learn rock moves to hurt fire types.

With thick fat and nevermeltice, forgetaboutit!
Plus, he looks like a boss.

Swampert is my favourite starter.
 

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I feel like such a noob coming into this Pokemon thread with what is apparently a piss-poor understanding of Pokemon, but I only but the cards and stopped after the first 300 so... Anyways, my favorite Pokemon has always been Chancey. I don't know why, but I've always enjoyed her.
 

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3 favourates that I always try to have in my team:- Dragronite, cause he's just awesome. Gengar, as he's pretty awesome too, and anything he can't beat, he curses and makes it die along with him! And then Hitmonchan. Who I love thanks to being able to just have a punch for all occations, ice, fire, thunder and mega. Prepare to be knocked out :D

(In the cartoons and stuff, it would have to go to Charizard, as he's just generally badass, and is the only pokemon besides Meowth and Pikachu to be given any kind of personality)
 

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Captain-Giggles said:
emeraldrafael said:
Captain-Giggles said:
Counter Snip
My brother ran a similar set-up but used tangled feet instead, ensuring that he was always fastest. First move Swords dance, every move after Facade. I've watched him take down entire teams after that first move, he's not allowed use it anymore.
Yeah. The way my friends and I play, you have to ante up a pokemon, so at the end of the match you lose it, and then you cant use a pokemon with that Set exactly against any of us in competitive play. Yeah, I know, its insane, but I've built a godly team of my friend's pokemon that I've won after antes. I've lost three, but never any of my main pokemon.

And the way that set is designed to run is get a baton pass from a Gliscor. I can give a link to the team its run in, but you need the sword dance to baton pass to abuse Ursaring's offensive capabilities. But I agree, that should be an illegal Ursaring. XD
EDIT: this is the team he ran it on http://pokemon.supercheats.com/team.php?id=10828
 

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The trouble with "best" threads is that there's a certain question of "best in what way?" When you say "non-legendary Pokemon" I can't help but think you're talking about overall fighting ability. I suppose we could crunch some numbers?
 

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There are other posts on the best stat-wise. So I'll just put an awesome one.

I've seen the Gen 5 Pokemon. Hit and miss. But it introduced me to my new favorite Pokemon: Kirikizan (English name not determined).



The Sword Blade Pokemon. Dark and Steel. High Attack and Defense.

A walking blade. What isn't awesome about this, again? Already a spot on my team of 6. (Still working out a few other ones. Need a good electric type.)
 

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emeraldrafael said:
Captain-Giggles said:
emeraldrafael said:
Captain-Giggles said:
Counter Snip
My brother ran a similar set-up but used tangled feet instead, ensuring that he was always fastest. First move Swords dance, every move after Facade. I've watched him take down entire teams after that first move, he's not allowed use it anymore.
Yeah. The way my friends and I play, you have to ante up a pokemon, so at the end of the match you lose it, and then you cant use a pokemon with that Set exactly against any of us in competitive play. Yeah, I know, its insane, but I've built a godly team of my friend's pokemon that I've won after antes. I've lost three, but never any of my main pokemon.

And the way that set is designed to run is get a baton pass from a Gliscor. I can give a link to the team its run in, but you need the sword dance to baton pass to abuse Ursaring's offensive capabilities. But I agree, that should be an illegal Ursaring. XD
EDIT: this is the team he ran it on http://pokemon.supercheats.com/team.php?id=10828
Your Starmie has Rapid Spin, I approve. With Stealth Rock, Spikes and the others being used so often I'm surprised I don't see Rapid Spin more often. I use a similar Bronzong, but my moveset is Stealth Rock, Trick Room, Sandstorm and Explosion because I like to sweep with the ultimate of glass cannons, Rampardos! The ante idea seems interesting, but a little too risky for my tastes.