Which PC game are you playing now ?
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The original Baldur's Gate is actually probably bigger in scale to its sequel. More locations, more characters, more sub-quests, and a greater element of exploration. What it lacked was a solid narrative or the level of compelling inter-party banter that made the second Baldur's Gate game stand out so well, it was also much rougher in terms of gameplay and the combat was much less compelling. Harder too, since you start out so weak just about anything bigger than a rat can and probably will kill you.dyre said:Lulz, funny you should say that about bringing people from 0 exp to high levels, because the people I play D&D with (myself included) all seem to like to start campaigns with everyone at least level 5. I guess we're not true D&D players then
Baldur's Gate 2 just seemed...bigger. More epic, sweeping across lots of different environments, with the protagonist pursuing something I felt was important. Sort of like another favorite of mine, Arcanum. That's what I love in games, the huge main storyline. Little side-stories and exploration are definitely a plus, but not critical. IMO exploration especially is something best enjoyed with a group of players; doing it alone is sort of dull. If there was BG1 co-op, I'd be all over that, assuming I could convince 5 friends to spend Saturdays playing a video game instead of playing D&D.
I'll give BG1 another try eventually, and I'll look up those mods you mentioned.
Thankfully there are a whole slew of mods now to fix that. Personally I like the BG1 tutu mod that ports the original game into the second games engine while still keeping it a separate experience, but others enjoy the trilogy mod which combines BG1 and 2 into one game. There's also the BG1 NPC project which brings the dialogue and interaction between characters and yourself more in line with BG2's standards, and does an amazing job of it as well. It's hard to tell what's been modding in and what was originally there, that's how seamless it all fits in.
And as for the difficulty... well that's part of the charm. In my mind playing all the way from Baldur's Gate to Throne of Bhall with one character is the RPG experience. The sense of progression you get from starting off a nobody slob to an army shattering demigod is unmatched.
Baldur's Gate 1 is beyond any doubt worth playing, no one should miss out. Especially not after the games been modded up!
Right now, I'm strongly considering getting the Red Faction games on steam, or atleast Guerrilla. It's $5, for christ's sake! Anyone here play it and care to advise on this purchase?
Other than possibly that, I'm kinda thinking of playing some Far Cry 2, though that never goes well. I really just do not know what I feel like playing....a terrible feeling, seeing a long list of games, and yet not really being in the mood for any of them. Especially since I just bought Rainbow 6 Vegas 2 and the aforementioned Far Cry 2. Both fun and all, but I've already played FC2 on 360 when it first came out, and Vegas 2 being hard as hell has kinda turned me off playing more campaign, and I am far too afraid to try out the multiplayer yet.
Other than possibly that, I'm kinda thinking of playing some Far Cry 2, though that never goes well. I really just do not know what I feel like playing....a terrible feeling, seeing a long list of games, and yet not really being in the mood for any of them. Especially since I just bought Rainbow 6 Vegas 2 and the aforementioned Far Cry 2. Both fun and all, but I've already played FC2 on 360 when it first came out, and Vegas 2 being hard as hell has kinda turned me off playing more campaign, and I am far too afraid to try out the multiplayer yet.
Wow, I came here to post that I'm playing that game too. I just recently reinstalled it off the original CDs. It's truly amazing and has great longevity. It's not a run of the mill diablo clone.BreakfastMan said:
Bloodline Champions, Starcraft 2, Devil May cry 4, the Witcher 2 (Not grabbing me yet..)
And League of Legends. Add "Kernion" xD
And League of Legends. Add "Kernion" xD
I meant, BG2's main storyline seemed bigger, more significant. Led to cooler places with more interesting characters. But I won't underestimate what mods can do for a game, so like I said, I'll try it out. Hopefully it doesn't tempt me to play through BG2 and ToB again...I don't have that kind of time to spare.The Madman said:The original Baldur's Gate is actually probably bigger in scale to its sequel. More locations, more characters, more sub-quests, and a greater element of exploration. What it lacked was a solid narrative or the level of compelling inter-party banter that made the second Baldur's Gate game stand out so well, it was also much rougher in terms of gameplay and the combat was much less compelling. Harder too, since you start out so weak just about anything bigger than a rat can and probably will kill you.dyre said:Lulz, funny you should say that about bringing people from 0 exp to high levels, because the people I play D&D with (myself included) all seem to like to start campaigns with everyone at least level 5. I guess we're not true D&D players then
Baldur's Gate 2 just seemed...bigger. More epic, sweeping across lots of different environments, with the protagonist pursuing something I felt was important. Sort of like another favorite of mine, Arcanum. That's what I love in games, the huge main storyline. Little side-stories and exploration are definitely a plus, but not critical. IMO exploration especially is something best enjoyed with a group of players; doing it alone is sort of dull. If there was BG1 co-op, I'd be all over that, assuming I could convince 5 friends to spend Saturdays playing a video game instead of playing D&D.
I'll give BG1 another try eventually, and I'll look up those mods you mentioned.
Thankfully there are a whole slew of mods now to fix that. Personally I like the BG1 tutu mod that ports the original game into the second games engine while still keeping it a separate experience, but others enjoy the trilogy mod which combines BG1 and 2 into one game. There's also the BG1 NPC project which brings the dialogue and interaction between characters and yourself more in line with BG2's standards, and does an amazing job of it as well. It's hard to tell what's been modding in and what was originally there, that's how seamless it all fits in.
And as for the difficulty... well that's part of the charm. In my mind playing all the way from Baldur's Gate to Throne of Bhall with one character is the RPG experience. The sense of progression you get from starting off a nobody slob to an army shattering demigod is unmatched.
Baldur's Gate 1 is beyond any doubt worth playing, no one should miss out. Especially not after the games been modded up!
Oh Godbussinrounds said:"I guess we're not true D&D players then"dyre said:Lulz, funny you should say that about bringing people from 0 exp to high levels, because the people I play D&D with (myself included) all seem to like to start campaigns with everyone at least level 5. I guess we're not true D&D players thenbussinrounds said:
Baldur's Gate 2 just seemed...bigger. More epic, sweeping across lots of different environments, with the protagonist pursuing something I felt was important. Sort of like another favorite of mine, Arcanum. That's what I love in games, the huge main storyline. Little side-stories and exploration are definitely a plus, but not critical. IMO exploration especially is something best enjoyed with a group of players; doing it alone is sort of dull. If there was BG1 co-op, I'd be all over that, assuming I could convince 5 friends to spend Saturdays playing a video game instead of playing D&D.
I'll give BG1 another try eventually, and I'll look up those mods you mentioned.
Haha, no one's saying that. I'm just saying that it should be experienced, how everything and everyone originates from square one. Especially if you like d&d AND video games too.
And BGT and the various mods gives you the best of both worlds all wrapped into one INCREDIBLE Package !!
The Big World Project megamod is just plain insanity. (something that this game ,if any, deserves)
It's an advanced modloader which lets you choose and download mods and install them without any conflictions.
Check out bakan's 2nd post in this page http://www.shsforums.net/topic/47220-problem-with-creature-ui-control/?s=cf5ed7d93c3050c03828698250ed9479
It lists everything i have installed for my BG adventure !! It's like 30 gigs worth. lol
It's too bad I've got a summer job, or I'd waste another summer on games. BG1 will have to wait until after the 2011 stuff, but I'll get to it.
I still stand by my statement that BG2 is much more non-D&D player friendly though.
I'm playing ArmA 2, multiplayer, in a mod where you play on a large island, with no rounds, one side plays the "police" and the other "civilians". The cops try to stop the civilians from doing criminal activity, anything from drug running, robbing gas stations, robbing the bank, or smuggling weapons, and the civilians just try to make money, either by legal or illegal means. As a cop, you can actually stun and arrest them, put them in your patrol car, then drive back to the jail and set a timer for their sentence. There is really a ton of rules, and features that it's hard to explain how cool it is in one post. It's addicting, and since there are no rounds, the 'match' can last for nearly 7 hours, or until the server starts farting out for various reasons, and we do a restart. Last night I played on cops, and setup an elaborate checkpoint at an intersection, complete with bar gates, barricades, bunkers and a jail-bus on standby for any criminals. It was boss.
It's best described as a sort of MMO environment. Persistent world, do you what you want.
Also playing Company of Heroes with Eastern Front mod, Witcher 2, and Napoleon Total War and Shogun 2. I'm also looking to reinstall nearly 100 mods for Fallout New Vegas, and start over.. since my original saves got wiped a few months ago, but I'll have to start from the beginning which might turn me off to it.
A few others here and there. It's hard to keep track.
It's best described as a sort of MMO environment. Persistent world, do you what you want.
Also playing Company of Heroes with Eastern Front mod, Witcher 2, and Napoleon Total War and Shogun 2. I'm also looking to reinstall nearly 100 mods for Fallout New Vegas, and start over.. since my original saves got wiped a few months ago, but I'll have to start from the beginning which might turn me off to it.
A few others here and there. It's hard to keep track.
Get Guerrilla! The open world and destruction are absolutely amazing, especially once you get the Nano Rifle. Trust me, it's completely worthy of those $5. I never played the original Red Faction games, but they don't sound as fun to me.Grey_Focks said:
I've been playing a combination of Civ V, Rome Total War SPQR mod, and M2TW Stainless Steel mod. It's incredible how these free mods have doubled and tripled the lifetime of those games for me
