I agree, and really, why not? I saw alot of Scholarships when I was getting ready for college, and it did look like they have scholarships for almost every ethnicity out there, so why not.ICantBelieveItGoesBoom said:
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This reminds me of a grant I applied for years ago. I can't recall it's exact name, but it was something like the "Nothing Special Grant" and it was put together by someone who had recently finished obtaining a master's degree. They said that the most difficult thing about acquiring financial aid was that you had to be special in some way.
The requirements were to write a one-page essay explaining how there was nothing particularly special about you, that you didn't have to overcome any hardships (be it economic, physical or social) and that you were not receiving any scholarships/grants for excelling in anything. If selected, you would get a once time payment of $200.
The requirements were to write a one-page essay explaining how there was nothing particularly special about you, that you didn't have to overcome any hardships (be it economic, physical or social) and that you were not receiving any scholarships/grants for excelling in anything. If selected, you would get a once time payment of $200.
At both my local university and my local community college there is a stellar business program and I wanted to apply. I had some money saved up, but I needed a scholarship or two to afford university and college would bleed me completely dry. I looked at the list of business scholarships offered to potential students going into university... and because of my race and gender I wasn't able to apply for one. Not even one. Every single scholarship was available only to women and/or people of visible minorities. Deterred, I checked out the list of scholarships available to potential college business students... and the same thing happened. Not one was available to white males. I couldn't help but realize how horrible this situation was, being denied potential assistance for higher education because of my race and gender. I learned just a little bit of what a lot of people had suffered through before gender and racial equality.
I did manage to afford one semester of college but I couldn't afford a second one. I had to drop out.
I don't see this as even remotely racist.
I did manage to afford one semester of college but I couldn't afford a second one. I had to drop out.
I don't see this as even remotely racist.
Ah. That totally excuses the instutionalisation of racism then. I stand corrected.Brawndo said:
Or I'm being sarcastic again because "there are poor whites" doesn't actually address my comment so much, whether taken sarcastically or played straight.
It also doesn't really do much to justify the scholarship. Sounds more like an attempt to justify guilt to me. Maybe I'm wrong, and I'd be happy to give you the benefit of the doubt, but this is a dishonest rationale.
Nothing wrong with it. 25% white. What's that... you have to have one white relative within 3 generations? But w/e, there are plenty of scolarships to all sorts of other people for w/e the reasons. I cant think of one that is simply for white men. Problem is, I live in UK, not America, so im not affected. I think that everyone should be helped/encoraged in education (not pushed though.) This just makes it easyer for others. Who knows, now more hill billys will get an education 
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To put perspective on it, Obama would more than qualify for the scholarship. It's not exactly a strict requirement.AwesomeSuperMelon said:Nothing wrong with it. 25% white. What's that... you have to have one white relative within 3 generations? But w/e, there are plenty of scolarships to all sorts of other people for w/e the reasons. I cant think of one that is simply for white men. Problem is, I live in UK, not America, so im not affected. I think that everyone should be helped/encoraged in education (not pushed though.) This just makes it easyer for others. Who knows, now more hill billys will get an education
exactly. The prospect of offering scholarships only to a minority group is the epitome of racism, no matter how noble the intent. but at least if people are going to do it, at least it's good to see the one group that doesn't have any finally getting at least one.SturmDolch said:
To everyone who is indignant: calm down. There are hundreds of scholarships dedicated to minorities, and probably at least a dozen for whichever pity party you're attending. This is only one scholarship for the white male who, surprisingly, can also be poor.
I lol'd at the 25% White part, but otherwise I think it's fine.
I've got no issues with this, as there are certainly similar programs confined to other specific races.
I've got no issues with this, as there are certainly similar programs confined to other specific races.
Being of African descent does not automatically make you predisposed to a life of poverty and/or criminality.
Being Caucasian does not automatically make you predisposed to a life of affluence and benefits. I don't know why people find this racist. Just because Caucasians controlled most of the wealth at some point does not mean they continue to do so.
The very fact that people find this racist seems racist to me.
Being Caucasian does not automatically make you predisposed to a life of affluence and benefits. I don't know why people find this racist. Just because Caucasians controlled most of the wealth at some point does not mean they continue to do so.
The very fact that people find this racist seems racist to me.
I ahve to agree with this despite being in favour of the new schollership.Woodsey said:
Besides it's only for white folk that both:
1. Need it to get their education and
2. Have a 3.0 GPA which if I remember right is a pretty decent score.
Why anyone would get upset at this is beyond me, well you know excpet for the racism toward whites.
I don't agree with this, but I don't disagree with it any more than I do with scholarships intended purely for students of other ethnicites or females. In my opinion, scholarships should be based solely on the academic abilities, commitment and the financial needs of the student in question.
*sigh* It should be illegal to make scholarships or any other opportunity dependent on someone's race. If you are trying to help groups that need financial aid, then just target those whose family income is below a certain threshold. If your assumptions about certain ethnic groups needing it more than others are true, then you should end up giving primarily to them anyway.
It seems like all this "political correctness" is a lot more racist than, you know, just ignoring race altogether and focusing on people's actual qualities.
While the Texas thing is equally silly, at least it's a valid response to all the other bullsh*t scholarships out there. I can't believe it's taking this country (and academia) so long to realize how absurd this system is.
It seems like all this "political correctness" is a lot more racist than, you know, just ignoring race altogether and focusing on people's actual qualities.
While the Texas thing is equally silly, at least it's a valid response to all the other bullsh*t scholarships out there. I can't believe it's taking this country (and academia) so long to realize how absurd this system is.
I agree, because having ethnicity-targeted scholarship programs is racist. But now we have programs for every racial group, wouldn't it make sense to abandon the racial requirement for all of them?ICantBelieveItGoesBoom said:
I'm not aware of any particular scholarships in the UK which single out any particular race/gender, if there are then they aren't common enough to draw up attention like this anyway. The UK has a poor-okay and okay-rich divide though when it comes to uni. Depending on your parents income, you can be given a lot of free money (as well as the loans) to support yourself with and if your parents earn a fair bit then you can end up having to get a job to support yourself. I guess this is down to the government expecting those who earn more to save up for their kids future, but infact not many people do.
Whereas I guess the system in the US is completely dependant on race/gender anyway, so you can't do much cept throw more wood on the fire. It's better to provide more opportunities to people than to leave it be, anyway.
@Brawndo - I see a pattern in your topics. Though they do seem to try and spark rage, I guess there's nothing wrong with them, yet.
Whereas I guess the system in the US is completely dependant on race/gender anyway, so you can't do much cept throw more wood on the fire. It's better to provide more opportunities to people than to leave it be, anyway.
@Brawndo - I see a pattern in your topics. Though they do seem to try and spark rage, I guess there's nothing wrong with them, yet.
Meh. I have nothing against this particular scholarship. I would like to see us do away with minority based aid and focus on need and work ethic and any number of other merits that actually look at the individual rather than try to even out a percentage. Of course, I am coming from the disillusionment of having been unable to find a scholarship for a 3.7 GPA coming out of high school because I did not fit some notion of a minority that people form scholarships around.