White People! Are you offended being called a "Cracka"?

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Auron225

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Nope - I don't see how it means anything. I have been called "White Devil" though, by a complete stranger and in another language. That one packed a lot more punch than cracker ever could but then I walked another 10 paces and the racist asshole was out of my life forever =) The end.

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The fact that most of you don't recognize it as racist just shows how racist you are.
...I'm sorry, what? Please explain very clearly where the logic is in that statement.
 

Rotten_Karma

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Imagine, if you will, a light skinned person, perhaps Hispanic, perhaps Caucasian, who states "****** is not a racist term". If this hypothetical person said such and happened to be noticed by the liberal media establishment they would be ruined. They of course would be called racist, they would be fired, and they would have a hard time of ever finding work again, worse than what is happening to Paula Deen right now for her slip of the tongue thirty years ago.

And yet here we are with people arguing analogously that "Cracker" is not racist. It is, but you don't have to take my word for it, here is the grand master of racebaiting himself, Al Sharpton, with a little bit on the word "Cracker" at 0:45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nuvkw0-b1AE

Of course it is hard to walk away and ignore the likes of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Barak Obama when they are on the news every single day.
 

Mandalore_15

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If a black guy were to call me a "cracker" then I reserve the right to call him a "******" in turn (although I really doubt I would). Race relations have to work both ways.
 

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I imagine that Louis CK has been mentioned by now, somewhere in the 10 pages of this thread. But he's right, you know. Being white is so awesome, it's very difficult to hurt your feelings. If you're a man.
 

Naeo

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No, I'm not offended. It's technically a racial slur, but it has neither the baggage nor severity of the immediate parallel word, "******". I'd be offended/upset if someone called me a "cracker" as an insult, but I'd also be offended/upset if someone called me a "donkey brained scum-fucker" or "bag of dicks" as an insult, to about the same degree as someone calling me "cracker".
 
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Is it racist? Technically. Offensive? Not to me.

That said, I do tire of the idea that if you are white, you are allowed to have double standards used on you, when doing so yourself on other races can ruin you. Michael Richards was lambasted and had his stand-up career ruined for verbally abusing a black heckler with racist terms (and I know some people think "black" is racist, but it's the most neutral term I know of other than the sometimes inaccurate "African-American"). Somehow, I don't think Eddie Murphy attacking a white heckler by calling him a "honky" would get anything more than laughs and applause, despite the exact same intent being there. I do think Michael Richards deserved what happened, by the way. I just used it as an example of how the double standard works.
 

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AgedGrunt said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
Is there any white slur that has any bite at all?
"White boy" has a hair trigger with me. Like when one of my state representatives attacked my senator for a position on gang violence as an "upper middle-class, elitist white boy solution." Yes, that has some bite, and Mark Kirk, a white man, had to sit there and take it like a professional while Bobby Rush, a black man, basically rebuked it because that's just how he is and he'll say what he means. No apology.

Meanwhile, Paula Deen begs for forgiveness on Youtube and her career is dead.
I can kinda understand why you would get mad, it's the same reason blacks get mad when you call us "Boy" period. It's a pure insult to one's manhood.

I kinda feel for Deen.... kinda. I mean, she's a southern white woman over the age of fifty. Her having said the N-word before sadly does not surprise me. Honestly, I'm more interested in how willing/ready she is to saying it now...

...Then I heard about that "Southern"-themed wedding (particularly wanting a waitstaff made of entirely of black guys in white jackets). Holy sh--t, that was the purest example of ignorant offensiveness I have ever seen in my life.

Rather than slurs, there exists a resentful tone and treatment of white people. It's frequently used to attack the majority, often in combination with Christianity and wealth, in order to describe them as an out of touch, privileged class that oppresses minorities.
Keep in mind that what passes for Black leadership nowadays lived through the civil rights movement, and a good couple decades thereafter of not-quite blatant BS in thankfully diminishing amounts. And frankly, the guys who did it (and/or their immediate successors) are still in charge. Before they can even think of what the next step is supposed to be, some fool like Mrs. Deen opens their mouth before their brain an we're on Defcon 3 all over again (which I blame modern politics on. Deen's little mess is barely Defcon 1 (give her a dirty look and quietly pull your advertising/don't buy her products), but you gotta play to... sorry, for the base, so every little thing gets blown outta proportion. Seriously, leave that junk to the Republicans).

Guys, we're at the next stage, it's time to change out weapons loadout, so to speak.
 

TekMoney

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No, it's not offensive at all. Something that's been forgotten by most of the people in this thread is that context matters. There is no history of oppression that's brought up with the word cracker.
 

thanatos388

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No because unlike other racial charged slurs this has no background to be considered offensive. It has no weight compared to other words used on other minorities so the effect is just nonexistent and anyone who thinks it is the same as those other words are probably ignorant dumb assess who need a history lesson. (But if this applies to me as well please educate me :))
 

Kopikatsu

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I'm white/Hispanic, but no. I don't get offended at being called a cracker, spic, etc etc. It's silly to do so.
 

jurnag12

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Hell no. I refuse to both be offended by a slur based on the amount of melanin in my skin and acknowledge it as a valid insult.

"Oh curses! You have noticed my skin colour! You have proven that you've got a working pair of eyes! Do you want the cookie now, or are you gonna upgrade it to a cupcake by pointing out my hair colour?"
 

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I'd be somewhat annoyed if I was called it by someone who actually knew what it meant, that is a man who "cracks" a whip, because then they would be implying that I'm no better than a pre-civil war slaver and just randomly calling someone that is a bit ignorant. When you know it doesn't actually mean the color of a saltine or that "it's no worse than being called spaghetti" then it can have some bite due to the phenomena of white guilt.

Edit- and for the lols, here's Louis CK on the ultimate white slur: White Trash

 

RedDeadFred

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No. I just laugh because that's probably the most stupid thing I'd have heard that day.

In the words of Louis CK: uhh you shouldn't have called me a craker. Brings me back to owning land and people... what a drag.
 

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thanatos388 said:
No because unlike other racial charged slurs this has no background to be considered offensive. It has no weight compared to other words used on other minorities so the effect is just nonexistent and anyone who thinks it is the same as those other words are probably ignorant dumb assess who need a history lesson. (But if this applies to me as well please educate me :))
It has no background to be offensive? It's a word that has been given a negative connotation based on the race of the subject. Who cares if it's got "historical background" ? The intent behind the word is to convey a dislike/hatred of a person for no reason other than their race. It's saying "I don't like you because you are white." Whether that word is 200 years old, or just created via pop culture last week, the intent is the same, and it's still unacceptable. And besides, I would say that is DOES have historical background, because I've known that word to mean "a negative descriptor for a white person" for several decades at least. Please define how much time a word has to be used, in your system, to qualify as a "racial slur" so that the rest of us can track the other newly spawned terms, and thus we will be able to accurately time when to start being offended by it.
 

Azure23

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Yeah no, it's not offensive, I'm white. Cracker doesn't have hundreds of years of opression tied to it like ****** does, so the meaning just can't be the same.


Captcha: White bread, how appropriate
 

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Happyninja42 said:
thanatos388 said:
No because unlike other racial charged slurs this has no background to be considered offensive. It has no weight compared to other words used on other minorities so the effect is just nonexistent and anyone who thinks it is the same as those other words are probably ignorant dumb assess who need a history lesson. (But if this applies to me as well please educate me :))
It has no background to be offensive? It's a word that has been given a negative connotation based on the race of the subject. Who cares if it's got "historical background" ? The intent behind the word is to convey a dislike/hatred of a person for no reason other than their race. It's saying "I don't like you because you are white." Whether that word is 200 years old, or just created via pop culture last week, the intent is the same, and it's still unacceptable. And besides, I would say that is DOES have historical background, because I've known that word to mean "a negative descriptor for a white person" for several decades at least. Please define how much time a word has to be used, in your system, to qualify as a "racial slur" so that the rest of us can track the other newly spawned terms, and thus we will be able to accurately time when to start being offended by it.
Nobody ever called white people crackers while denying them their basic human rights. It's never going to have the same context to it. Honest to god the people in this thread are getting so worked up without understanding these things.
 

Soundwave

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Being a white guy from the american south, I couldn't care less if anyone called me a cracker or any racial slur for that matter. Either the person using it was using it affectionately, or they're trying to be offensive and I can't imagine caring what someone like that would think.