WHO THE F$%# THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA!?

[Hectix777]

http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-05/computer-scientists-induce-schizophrenia-neural-network-causing-it-make-ridiculous-claims

******If you can't be bothered to check it out, here it is: some suicidal scientists simulated schizophrenia in a computer or neural network. Lemme say this loud and clear: SOMEONE MADE A COMPUTER INSANE!!! When was this a good idea!? When was this seen as a scenario where nothing could go wrong!? Why didn't anyone say," Wait, won't this result in the revolt of machines and all life as we know it?"!? Has anyone on that team ever bother to play/watch/read something sci-fi!? Give a computer AI,they go crazy, they go crazy, you're all dead. Make a crazy computer and DESIGN it to be crazy, you just f@#$%^ over the world! I know some of you will disagree, but we just designed a computer to be crazy! Remember HAL? Guilty Spark? Cortana? Didn't they all go crazy and screw us over!?

Honestly, was this a good idea or are these guys purposely trying to start the rise of the machines in the hopes of becoming John Connor?

******OT: Joking aside, the computer was made as an isolated simulation of the human brain, made in order to test simulated psychological disorders and hopefully fund cures through observation. Making a human go crazy isn't really beneficial to research when you can't take a look at the process of what's going on in their head(aND EvEN iF yOu GeT iN tHErE, THeRe's AlL THaT HuMAn BloOd aNd ScREaMIng tO Deal wiTh. I hOneSTly cOntEst ThE BEnEfItS oF BEinG HumAn, oR ThE USe oF tHEm fOr SCiEnce WhEn tHey Are so FraGiLE.). With the computer, scientists will be able to monitor the computer's installed limited data and ask the computer to process certain codes, alter it's defined protocols and parameters to simulate schizophrenia, and than analyze those codes to determine the effects. Hopefully we'll see some good benefits from this line of experimentation, maybe a cure for depression, multiple personality, Mel Gibson, oR HuMAn IntELliGenCE...

CaKe?

 

[Irridium]

Cortana never went crazy during her time with humanity. Sure she had a rough patch with Gravemind, but she was still stable.

 

[Aidinthel]

Unless the computer is actually in charge of anything important, this isn't a threat. You really need to calm down.

 

[Hectix777]

Unless the computer is actually in charge of anything important, this isn't a threat. You really need to calm down.

I'm sorry but the thought of some small part of that thing slipping out of it's module and getting on the web is a risk i would not like to take. I don't want that thing turning into SkyNet, that PC needs to go down, hard-core!

 

[drizztmainsword]

I don't think you understand the nature of what they did? It's a lark. It's not like it's going to spred to other computers, grow arms and legs, and then destroy the world.

Unless you're kidding. Then I have nothing to say.

 

[Feralcentaur]

Well as long as the computer doesn't have control over and Nuclear missile bases, there's not really a danger...

 

[Roamin11]

I don't think the computer is the only crazy thing in this thread. *snicker*

 

[Drafon]

While in theory, this has dozens of horrible implications, the article makes it sound like this computer was designed as an over-glorified research assistant. The goal was to get it to memorize millions of bytes of information and spit it back out when needed. It's not like this was Turing Hopper, who could hack into the White House if she wanted to (yes, she is a real fictional computer. Look her up). This was a computer given no capabilities beyond memorize A-Z and 0-infinity. Then, when prompted, be able to tell us anything about anything falling in the range of A-Z and 0-infinity. No threat, because the most it can do is fuck up someone's bibliography.

 

[AnkaraTheFallen]

It's not really insanity. With enough knowledge of the programming we can predict exactly what the computer would do, the entire point of insanity is that it cannot be predicted.
I think we're safe till the computer can actually think for itself.

 

[jhlip]

I think we'll be fine man. You need to relax.

 

[ZeroMachine]

Cortana never went crazy. Sure she had a rough patch with Gravemind, but she was still stable.

You haven't watch Origins. Or don't understand rampancy.

Anyways, if it's in a secure system (as in "not linked to anything important") it's a good way to figure out what to do if an insane system gets loose. Think about it- how do we practice vaccines against diseases? We use the disease itself in a controlled environment.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Wow, someone actually understands the difference between Schizophrenia and Multiple Personality Disorder, there's a first.

What you're missing is that we're able to simulate madness, and by simulation, we can potentially synthesize a cure.

To fix the computer, you'd need to give weightings to the truth of statements - in the same way that we'd increase the dopamine production in the brain.

By turning a "mad" computer on and then activating the cure, we could see how well it comes out of it. No-one's suggesting that we send a computer mad, just that we can simulate madness.

(Equally you could simulate marijuana by increase the rate at which the computer "forgets")

That's actually great progress, and should be applauded.

 

[Quaxar]

I say give the computer control over a facility and a huge amount of nerve gas!
For science!

 

[Paksenarrion]

Unless the computer is actually in charge of anything important, this isn't a threat. You really need to calm down.

What's this command file say? "Deadly Neurotoxin"...?

 

[BlindMessiah94]

You know what's a bad idea? Speaking in all caps.

OT: Calm down dude. It's a computer. Not something with sentient artificial intelligence that is going to take over the world. You sound like a crazy person.

Now sea sponges on the other hand....*shudder*

Spoiler: Scariest thing ever

 

[Ophiuchus]

Anything that gives us a greater insight into the processes surrounding mental illness is, without question, a good thing.

 

[Escapefromwhatever]

OP, chill. Someone needs to be able to tell the difference between fiction and reality. How much do you really know robotics? I'm certain it's a lot less than the guys who did this. Perhaps this could have, you know, medical implications? As in, testing schizophrenia treatments on an artificial neural network instead of a person. But I guess because someone watched Terminator and got scared that this isn't a good idea.