Who's the next world superpower?

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Shivari

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werepossum post=18.73207.790644 said:
LewsTherin post=18.73207.790049 said:
Canada. Our bears have LAZARS.
Yeah, well, the USA has lots of bears as well AND we have the constitutional right to arm them - our right to bear arms shall not be infringed, thus guaranteeing our bears the best arms American ingenuity can produce.
Do I need to bring this out again?

 

Medic Heavy

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First of all Ruissa has the fraction of the power it had years ago and China is growing everyday so obviously china.



Canda probably has more bear's then the u.s
 

stompy

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Medic Heavy post=18.73207.790657 said:
First of all Russia has the fraction of the power it had years ago and China is growing everyday so obviously china.
If I may shamelessly plug in an earlier post:

stompy post=18.73207.788545 said:
Shivari post=18.73207.788488 said:
Everyone knows it's going to be China next, followed by India. Russia right now is just an old dog barking to show that it's still tough.
Actually, Russia, while not top dog, still has quite a bit of military standing. They may not have the best military overall, but, you know, having the largest stockpile of WMDs ensuring some sort of military standing. Also, they have some of the largest troop numbers (many of which aren't peasants/farmers), and have the ability to manufacture large amounts of arms locally.

Also, while Russia may not be the strongest in military comparisons, they have the largest reserves of resources. Russia has the world's greatest reserves of mineral and energy resources, and is considered an energy superpower. It has the world's largest forest reserves and its lakes contain approximately one-quarter of the world's unfrozen fresh water.

That large amount of reserves means they have a lot of sway in the near future. If they control mineral and energy reserves, that means they can dictate terms and such when other countries start running out of resources, especially powerful when they'll have one of the last major reserves of oil. It's made even more potent when you factor in the water reserves; with the increasing sea level, more and more fresh water is becoming unfit for human consumption, and if Russia has major reserves of fresh water, they can (and will) barter that for a top position in world affairs.

I'm still rooting for the BRIC nations, because that means each nation rules in its own sector.
Actually, there's something I'd like to add to that: Russia is part of the P5 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council#Permanent_members], meaning they already have a lot of standing in the UN as it is. Hell, they can veto a resolution passed by the other member states, even if they are outnumbered.

Edit: I don't think I've clearly explained the power the P5 nations have. Here, this is a bit clearer:

A negative vote, or veto, by a permanent member prevents adoption of a proposal, even if it has received the required number of affirmative votes.
So, if Russia doesn't want something to occur, it can veto, making sure it can't occur through the UN.
 

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ElephantGuts post=18.73207.789523 said:
Well apparently everyone here has forgotten about the Crab People, but once they attack none of this is going to matter.
I've already boarded up with enough hot butter to repel an army, I'm offering sanctuary to anyone able to wield their butter
I'm getting ready to.I have a anti air battery hooked up to the local buttery factor....getting ready for the crab airborn
 

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stompy post=18.73207.790668 said:
Medic Heavy post=18.73207.790657 said:
First of all Russia has the fraction of the power it had years ago and China is growing everyday so obviously china.
If I may shamelessly plug in an earlier post:

stompy post=18.73207.78854 said:
o....sorry about that i read a few postes here and there but didn't notice that.

Edit: sorry for double posting
 

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milskidasith post=18.73207.788600 said:
It'll be Oceania. >.>

In all seriousness (or at the very least, not relating to Ninteen Eighty-Four) it will probably be China, unless the US somehow manages to preform a miracle heelface turn and get out of this recession. Which is unlikely.
If Risk proves anything its that who ever controls Oceania wins at global ass kicking.
 

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Medic Heavy post=18.73207.790678 said:
o....sorry about that i read a few postes here and there but didn't notice that.
Покуда слава мать Россия превалирует, она имеет значение не.

Если вы извините меня, то мне нужно выпить некоторую водочку. Не дешево, польская водочка однако.+

+No offence to the Polish, of course.
 

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Shivari post=18.73207.790651 said:
werepossum post=18.73207.790644 said:
LewsTherin post=18.73207.790049 said:
Canada. Our bears have LAZARS.
Yeah, well, the USA has lots of bears as well AND we have the constitutional right to arm them - our right to bear arms shall not be infringed, thus guaranteeing our bears the best arms American ingenuity can produce.
Do I need to bring this out again?

SNIP
Yes, as often as possible. That picture should be beside the word "awesome" in the dictionary.
 

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stompy post=18.73207.790703 said:
Medic Heavy post=18.73207.790678 said:
o....sorry about that i read a few postes here and there but didn't notice that.
Покуда слава мать Россия превалирует, она имеет значение не.

Если вы извините меня, то мне нужно выпить некоторую водочку. Не дешево, польская водочка однако.+

+No offence to the Polish, of course.
Why you little...
 

stompy

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Saskwach post=18.73207.790894 said:
Why you little...
Польская водочка ужасна. Конечно, обхватывайте вниз к славе мать Россия!

Mods, если вы имеете проблему с постоянн русским, то все оно принимает для вас, котор нужно сказать мне, и мне не помню остановить.
 

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werepossum post=18.73207.789932 said:
However, as Shivari pointed out the cause of the Russians pulling out was completely due to the revolution. The Russians were doing just fine in the Great War until then, and in fact had earlier taken a large part of Finland in spite of some of the most outstanding defense ever.
Finland was part of Russia as a Grand Duchy during WWI. I haven't heard of anyone ever conquering their own territory.
 

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I hear Bhutan is making waves...

In all seriousness as the British empire waned it owed vast sums of money to America. Now America owes huge sums to China... As for Russia, it can do the big bully thing all it likes but it all reality its an economic mess and will never be a superpower, as true superpowers rely on economic pressure much more than military might to enforce their will. its just not profitable otherwise.
 

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China. They scare the shit out of me. They're starting to become more like the USA, but with a single-minded dedication to succeeding in whatever they do, and the government hitting down hard on anyone who steps out of line. Imagine America ruled by fascists disguised as socialists. That's pretty much where China is headed.
 

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sirdanrhodes post=18.73207.787726 said:
Russia, communism is a good idea.
In theory.

It's all very well until people realise that the guy doing hardly any work is getting just as much as you for it. Then the whole thing breaks down because people lose motivation. Then you have the problem of corruption...

I'm not saying that full-on capitalism is the best way, but a little in between might help.

Unless of course you were joking, in which case consider my sarcasm detector broken. :)
 

Zeh Don

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New Zealand.
They've been quiet over there for far too long.

Seriously though, if the US of A was no longer the world's dominant super power there are several countries that would love to fill the gap - the only problem is that for America to lose it's position as self-proclaimed leaders of the 'free world' it would have to be destroyed, and you can be damn sure if they're going down, they're taking the rest of us with them.
 

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Switzerland, of course. The LHC will give them zero point technology. Any "hidden" nuclear weapons are match heads in comparison. Force fields, trans warp drive, matter transmission (c/o IBM Edinburgh) and flying cars to follow.


I think the LHC is already operational. The recent fault is as factual as a weather balloon in Roswell.

They need time to wash the pentagrams and runes off the walls and mop the floors.
 

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stompy post=18.73207.790703 said:
Medic Heavy post=18.73207.790678 said:
o....sorry about that i read a few postes here and there but didn't notice that.
Ïîêóäà ñëàâà ìàòü Ðîññèÿ ïðåâàëèðóåò, îíà èìååò çíà÷åíèå íå.


Åñëè âû èçâèíèòå ìåíÿ, òî ìíå íóæíî âûïèòü íåêîòîðóþ âîäî÷êó. Íå äåøåâî, ïîëüñêàÿ âîäî÷êà îäíàêî.+

+No offence to the Polish, of course.
I translated yout text out so i'm understanding ruissa prevails in vodka and gloury and poland has weak vodka?
 

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Shivari post=18.73207.790651 said:
werepossum post=18.73207.790644 said:
LewsTherin post=18.73207.790049 said:
Canada. Our bears have LAZARS.
Yeah, well, the USA has lots of bears as well AND we have the constitutional right to arm them - our right to bear arms shall not be infringed, thus guaranteeing our bears the best arms American ingenuity can produce.
Do I need to bring this out again?
I love those bears. Who painted that?