Why agree with Yahtzee?

[Sovvolf]

I enjoy his reviews and think that he makes some valid points however I do disagree with what he says from time to time, I'm a human-being I can form my decision's on a mater and my own opinion is more valid to me on a game than his. That doesn't mean I despise his opinions when we don't meet eye to eye on some thing, I find his opinions interesting as well as funny. Though as stated, there's a good amount of people on the escapist who are either %100 for or %100 against Yahtzee... I find this a little sheepish, people need to understand that it's his opinions, you don't have to %100 agree, you can justifiably disagree.

 

[jpoon]

I agree with a lot of his points about games. Not always but he's pretty close most of the time.

 

[Booze Zombie]

I agree with him on the parts that are actually valid and comment on how humorous the hyperbole is on the parts where he's exaggerating.

 

[ssgt splatter]

There are a bunch of games that I've played that he has reviewed and more or less he is right to some degree. For example most recently, Splinter Cell Conviction, two of his comments were dead on like how Sam needs to look right at the jump prompt to make it appear or otherwise he'll just open the door and walk into a room full of enemies or how all the enemies empty their guns shooting at the last know postion while you sneak behind them and introduce their ears to the sound of their neck snapping before they can figure "what the fuck." What I'm surpried at is the fact that he didn't mention how the difficulty settings aren't, well, difficult. The only real difference between rookie and 'realistic' is that on 'realistic' you're spotted more easily, damage is higher but it's almost impossible to notice, and it's just as easy to disapper once spotted.

Most of the time I just watch his reviews to see just how he tears the game a new one and I really get excited when it's a game that I've played to see the harsh critisism dealt to it and get a good laugh out of it.

 

[2fish]

I may disagree with him on some games however he has two points in his favor. He got me off my ass to buy the orange box and he married Saints Row 2. I can forgive his mistakes (yes I am saying he made mistakes about his own opion) also he is somewhat refreshing in a world of cookie cutter gamer reviewers. yahtzee is 1/2 reviewer, 1/2 comedian, 3/16 angry little id, and 1/3 gamer. I can easily relate to the angry little id that he is and as a bonus I laugh and get a game review.

-2fish

 

[squidbuddy99]

Occationally. Maybe it's just my fanboy-ism, but I sometimes see him as a grumpy miser who looks for reasons to argue. Other times I praise his accuracy.

 

[Blind Sight]

Meh, it's his opinion, I usually don't watch his reviews unless I've actually played the game, and even then it doesn't really influence me in any way. I like to hear what he thought about a game, but to be honest if you follow Yahtzee's word like a religion then you seriously need to develop taste of your own, rather then living off the opinions of a foul-mouthed Englishman.

Overall, I find him a little too nitpicky in certain areas of his reviews, and I find his consistancy can be a bit off (he'll complain about a factor in one game, but ignore a very similar one in another). Still, he's always good for a cheap laugh, and even if I disagree with him I'll still respect his opinion.

 

[ma55ter_fett]

I don't agree with 99.9% of what he says. Its why I never read his "extra punctuation" articles because they arn't all that funny (to me) and contain nothing that I agree with.

What is the .1% of things we agree on you ask?

I think boobs are stonking great as well.

What, so you thought Alone in the Dark was a great revival of the classic series?

See, that's the problem with making sweeping generalizations, you can get tripped up VERY easily.

Do you demand that every opinion voiced by every person on the escapist be backed up with reasonable arguements? Or only those you disagree with?

In any event the ZP episodes are satire and thus can neither be agreed with or disagreed with because thats how satire works. But it seems that those opinions yahtzee expresses in the extra ZP articles are to be taken seriously (so people say) and it is those opinions to which I disagree. I haven't read many of his articles s so there may be one or two points on which we agree (But I haven't yet found them).

"Why don't you read all the articles and make a more informed decision" you may say to me

"Why bother" I will reply, reading through a stack of articles that expound views that I do not share in search of one article that I do agree with is not worth it to me.

 

[Count Igor]

Suprisingly, I agree with almost all of what he says. Only a few games have been Top Notch (As I am fond of saying since of now), such as Portal. The rest are ok, but big flaws that I don't like.

 

[Arcane Azmadi]

I don't agree with 99.9% of what he says. Its why I never read his "extra punctuation" articles because they arn't all that funny (to me) and contain nothing that I agree with.

What is the .1% of things we agree on you ask?

I think boobs are stonking great as well.

What, so you thought Alone in the Dark was a great revival of the classic series?

See, that's the problem with making sweeping generalizations, you can get tripped up VERY easily.

Do you demand that every opinion voiced by every person on the escapist be backed up with reasonable arguements? Or only those you disagree with?

In any event the ZP episodes are satire and thus can neither be agreed with or disagreed with because thats how satire works. But it seems that those opinions yahtzee expresses in the extra ZP articles are to be taken seriously (so people say) and it is those opinions to which I disagree. I haven't read many of his articles s so there may be one or two points on which we agree (But I haven't yet found them).

"Why don't you read all the articles and make a more informed decision" you may say to me

"Why bother" I will reply, reading through a stack of articles that expound views that I do not share in search of one article that I do agree with is not worth it to me.

So... you only read articles you know you'll agree with?

 

[micky]

yes most of the time and he does seam to have a point alot

 

[ma55ter_fett]

I don't agree with 99.9% of what he says. Its why I never read his "extra punctuation" articles because they arn't all that funny (to me) and contain nothing that I agree with.

What is the .1% of things we agree on you ask?

I think boobs are stonking great as well.

What, so you thought Alone in the Dark was a great revival of the classic series?

See, that's the problem with making sweeping generalizations, you can get tripped up VERY easily.

Do you demand that every opinion voiced by every person on the escapist be backed up with reasonable arguements? Or only those you disagree with?

In any event the ZP episodes are satire and thus can neither be agreed with or disagreed with because thats how satire works. But it seems that those opinions yahtzee expresses in the extra ZP articles are to be taken seriously (so people say) and it is those opinions to which I disagree. I haven't read many of his articles s so there may be one or two points on which we agree (But I haven't yet found them).

"Why don't you read all the articles and make a more informed decision" you may say to me

"Why bother" I will reply, reading through a stack of articles that expound views that I do not share in search of one article that I do agree with is not worth it to me.

So... you only read articles you know you'll agree with?

I only read articles that I have a chance of agreeing with or if that is not possible, articles written by authors who are open to disagreement, frank discussion, and debate.
As such I don?t read Yahtzee?s extra ZP articles, I don?t agree with the opinions held within them and since he is unwilling to debate the points he makes I have no reason to post/read there.
Or another analogy
I don?t read extra ZP for the same reason Jack Thompson (most likely) will not visit this site. I neither agree with, care for, or gain any enjoyment from reading them.

 

[Danpascooch]

I'm like most Escapists. I watch both Zero Punctuation and Unskippable, the most popular video series on the site. They never fail to make me laugh and smile whenever I watch their work. However, since Zero Punctuation is the more popular of the two, more people are inclined to agree with it. Despite that, some people forget that Zero Punctuation is a "game review" in the same sense that the Colbert Report and Daily Show is a "News Show", and tend to take Yahtzee very seriously. It usually swings both ways, with people clinging on to his words like it was passed down from God himself, or with people hating ever last syllable that he utters.
I've also noticed that many people, even if they haven't played the game have posted in the comments that they harbor the same exact complaints, even if it's overlooked or practically fictional. And in the few cases that Yahtzee does review a game well, numerous people lavish their praises on it like its the second coming.
Do you always agree with Yahtzee? I have my disagreements with what he says sometimes, but that doesn't stop me from laughing and enjoying the game.

Hey, HEY!

Don't fuck with Colbert.

Lol, you should never agree with someone because of who they are, agree with them or not based on what they say, and judge what they say with as little bias as possible each time.

 

[Guitarmasterx7]

usually I agree with most of his points but not necessarily his overall verdict on a game.

 

[Shamanic Rhythm]

I tend to agree with him because I've lost count of the many times he's pointed out various gameplay complaints which I've then gone and discovered in those games myself. The difference between Yahtzee's reviews and Gamespot, IGN etc is that it feels like someone has actually played the damn game, rather than simply tongue bathing it because the game has ads on their website. I don't always agree with him (for instance I can't believe he found GTA IV even vaguely entertaining), but in general I've found his opinions to be very sound.

What irks me is this developing trend to think that because ZP is usually humorous, you shouldn't take it seriously; and if you do, you're a Yahtzee fanboy. You have to take any kind of hyperbolic exaggeration with a grain of salt, sure, but in order for it to be funny in the first place there has to be a grain of truth in there.

 

[Ryokai]

I don't always agree with Yahtzee, but I watch him for laughs and entertainment more than a game reviewer (though his reviews are solid, and it's only every so often I outright disagree with him, but even if I do, it's still funny to watch.)

 

[mrhappyface]

Do you always agree with Yahtzee?

I would hardly say I ALWAYS agree with him, but at the same time I'd be lying if I said I never agree with him either. The problem with his review style is that it polarizes games, but MAINLY because he seems to focus on one side of most games.

You see, I take Yahtzee as sort of the "Anti-Gamespot" if you will. If you look at their reviews of most of the same games that Yahtzee has reviewed you see words like "great" and "wonderful" and "awesome" and you hear the tidbits that make them so, with a sort of afterthought mentioning there is bad stuff too.

But Yahtzee, he does the exact opposite, he points out every flaw. He takes a golden idol, and shows you it's hollow. He dispels the gushing that most reviewers seem to give. Granted in an exaggerated fashion, but I think that's part of what makes it so refreshing. and you'll also notice he very, VERY rarely seems to actually say "NEVER PURCHASE THIS GAME OR IT WILL KILL YOU WITH BADNESS" nor does he ever seem to claim if you don't buy a copy of game X he will himself find you and murder you. Instead he tries (and mostly succeeds) at doing exactly what he claims, showing 99% of games for the bland same ol' same ol' garbage they've always been so the few, the proud the TRULY great games, can shine above them like the North Star.

So no, I don't always agree with him, but I find him very refreshing.

You bring up a good point. He never actually trashed a game, well except for Too Human and Turok. But then again, Yahtzee is more interested in unique original ideas other than refined or perfected reiterations of existing medians. But then again, Yahtzee is a bit like Moses. He shows that it's false, smashes the idol, and for extra burn, makes you drink all the shit that makes it up.

 

[Dark Knifer]

I occasionaly agree with him, but I never base my opinion souly on that. It's one of my favourite video series though.

 

[Arcane Azmadi]

I don't agree with 99.9% of what he says. Its why I never read his "extra punctuation" articles because they arn't all that funny (to me) and contain nothing that I agree with.

What is the .1% of things we agree on you ask?

I think boobs are stonking great as well.

What, so you thought Alone in the Dark was a great revival of the classic series?

See, that's the problem with making sweeping generalizations, you can get tripped up VERY easily.

Do you demand that every opinion voiced by every person on the escapist be backed up with reasonable arguements? Or only those you disagree with?

In any event the ZP episodes are satire and thus can neither be agreed with or disagreed with because thats how satire works. But it seems that those opinions yahtzee expresses in the extra ZP articles are to be taken seriously (so people say) and it is those opinions to which I disagree. I haven't read many of his articles s so there may be one or two points on which we agree (But I haven't yet found them).

"Why don't you read all the articles and make a more informed decision" you may say to me

"Why bother" I will reply, reading through a stack of articles that expound views that I do not share in search of one article that I do agree with is not worth it to me.

So... you only read articles you know you'll agree with?

I only read articles that I have a chance of agreeing with or if that is not possible, articles written by authors who are open to disagreement, frank discussion, and debate.
As such I don?t read Yahtzee?s extra ZP articles, I don?t agree with the opinions held within them and since he is unwilling to debate the points he makes I have no reason to post/read there.
Or another analogy
I don?t read extra ZP for the same reason Jack Thompson (most likely) will not visit this site. I neither agree with, care for, or gain any enjoyment from reading them.

Once again I need to point out a simple thing you overlooked- Jack Thompson would never visit this site is because he's a deranged, foaming-mouthed, lunatic fanatic who KNOWS for a proven fact that every person here, you and me included, is a rabid psychopath-in-the-making who wants to kill him either because we are desperate to stop him in his quest to do God's Work, or simply because the games tell us to. Or in less extravagant terms, because he's an imbecile. In other words, comparing yourself to Jack Thompson isn't the smartest argument you could have made.

Don't worry, I'll stop replying when you find an argument I can't use to judo-flip you onto your back. No hard feelings, but this verbal-sparring IS kind of fun.

 

[cerebus23]

zp is what brought me to this site and kept me coming back. he is a game critic with a sharp wit, he is not a game reviewer unlike the guys at ign and gamespot and etc. he will rip apart any weaknesses in a game and spit all over them, and if your really honest with yourself, even if you love a game to death he almost always makes good points, and really most of the points i would make even agaisnt games i love to death like mass effect 1 and 2, dragon age, batman AA, ok he liked batman AA alot he still ripped on it.

how can we be so in love with a game that it angers people if he hates on it? he is funny he is over the top and he hardly ever makes a unfounded criticism, yea you may disagree but gods lighten up if he bothers you and have a laugh.

most of the video reviews on this site are critics, movies, games they all got their legs to be taken out from under them. granted bob tends to be more generous but even if he likes a movie or really likes it he will still rip into it for the bad bits.

and honestly i trust the reviews of zp over ign and such since half the time their "scoring" system seems to be very suspect. some systems and games seem to have a much harsher yardstick to live up to while others get a more lax one, the previews of games seem to bend over backwards and sideways to kiss the feet even of crap games.

hell its been said for years that many game site take ads and out and out kickbacks to fluff scores a few people have even gotten fired off ign and another site when it came out they did in fact do that, sucks to get caught dont it? looking as the scores some questionable games get, i have little doubt that it continues to this day.

look at games on metacritic great site with the averages it generally speaks more truth than the actual review sites but look at enough games you will see a few patterns emerge. take heavy rain for example, widely hailed as a good game, not everyone's cup of tea no doubt, but its a game got a few 100s, no doubt off more pro ps3 sites, many 90s off the general major sites, and several 40s and such down on the list, now i hate to say that i wonder if those 40s were generated off pro xbox sites, granted they probably offset the 100s, cause the vast majority of reviews for that game were good to outstanding then you get a handful of sites out of the median norm scoring the game so low to cal the game basically total garbage, it is a tad puzzling.

so yes god bless yahtzee and his i hate all games mentality, i trust it far more than most reviews.