Why all the hate on Halo?

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Vanguard_Ex

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happysock said:
Use the search bar, normally i don't say this but i've seen about 5 of these in the past month, and what is the point of this post except fan boyism we are not discussing anything.
Sorry to say it but: this.
If you don't like people having an opinion that conflicts with yours then you're in the wrong universe boy.
 

Daedalus1942

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MaxTheReaper said:
Please tell me you are fucking kidding me.

You are using the exact same title every other thread of this kind has used.
That is, in case you were wondering, a lot of threads.
Sixteen threads, to be exact!
 

happysock

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Vanguard_Ex said:
happysock said:
Use the search bar, normally i don't say this but i've seen about 5 of these in the past month, and what is the point of this post except fan boyism we are not discussing anything.
Sorry to say it but: this.
If you don't like people having an opinion that conflicts with yours then you're in the wrong universe boy.
I don't care about people having an opinion I never said that, so please stop putting words in my mouth, tbh I love the Halo games see my gamer tag if you don't believe me, this must be about the 3rd or 4th why hate halo, halo is now underrated, halo used to be good, thread there has been in about a week. Also if you have read the forum rules there is one about starting flame wars, and considering this is just another opinion of the game, and we are not discussing anything I don't see the point.

Daedalus1942 said:
MaxTheReaper said:
Please tell me you are fucking kidding me.


You are using the exact same title every other thread of this kind has used.
That is, in case you were wondering, a lot of threads.
Sixteen threads, to be exact!
Thank you someone else who agrees that we have had too many of these recently
 

Vrex360

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We don't hate the game, we hate its fanboys.
Yo, fanboy present.

Anyway, I actually gotta say I was looking forward to a bit of a break to be honest but the thread came and I followed. As we all knew I would, for this is my destiny. In fact if we look at my recent tally I've been keeping, this is my one hundredth 'Halo Thread Post' so I decided to mark this special occassion by doing something with more detail and explain in depth why I think there was a rise and fall of Halo:

Halo is a game that was very popular and with it, helped become the lifeblood of the Xbox. That alone is an indication because the key word is 'Xbox'... I once heard it said more people would have sung the praises of Halo CE if it had been multiplatform instead of just Xbox but because it became the 'big title' on Xbox this made it an obvious target for the people who played Playstation and Gamecube... Playstation in particular.
It is still within human nature to be very insecure about oneself and feeling the need to assert your strength and be completely without fault. So naturally, the best way to make yourself feel better is to make the opposition look worse. So Halo's very release and it's success made it immenant.
Soon afterwards Halo 2 would be showing up three years later into a world where the games industry had now thrived a lot from the influence of the first game. At the time Halo 2 did not need to improve much, what it did, it did well. So one thing it did help do was bring about online shooters to the console. And in so doing created another huge flaw.
Anyone who spent much time on Counterstrike or indeed the internet at all can agree here that the online community though not all bad can be populated by a lot of obnoxious annoying people. So Halo 2, while succeeding in bringing a lot of people together to chill out and kill each other over Xbox Live... also attracted with it the worst kin of people in online games. Those who were lured by a new popular game and became the undeserved symbol of the Halo fanbase.
Halo Fans would soon be alienated from the other consumers.
Now we reach Halo 3. I admit there was a MASS amount of hype, it was on TV, movies, the bus, the internet, soft drink, chip packets, billboards, t-shirts.... everywhere. This in turn helped put games in general in the spotlight and helped (in my opinion) make 2007 such a good year for the games industry. However this also made it quite clear that Halo was mainstream and this lead to people wanting to be cool and going against the mainstream. Shortly after release Halo 3 had a huge boom for a loooong time before finally getting booted out by a combination of Fanboys of other Consoles and the people who wanted to be cool.

So I still call it 'flock effect' you get a few people who don't like something, combine it with the people who like pissing people off, add the desire to be cool and 'elite' and finally putting them all together an you get anarchy. The internet is tearing itself apart because hating Halo has become cool. I said it before I think, you just have to start saying the right things and have some figure in authority who seems to support their position to lead them in the right direction and then if it makes their opinions seem valid they'll all follow the same belief and like a wild herd of animals trample everything that gets in their way.

And that's how people thinking they are elitist become mainstream.
 

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Another one? So soon? Could we maybe have a rest from these for a month or so, I'd really appreciate it.
 

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Actually from what i know of it it's not halo itself, but that the halo series is the flagship of the first person shooters infection and devouring of the marketplace, and the fanboys' rabid claims that anything that doesn't have at least 28 1/2 shooters out for it is made for casual gamers. This of course offends those who are not casual gamers but would rather play something other than a camera moving 6-3 1/2 -1 3/4 feet of the ground utilizing various weapons that all amount in the end to "hold the shoot button to shoot"

This of course makes the fanboys' angry for being called out on this, which further angers the non-fanboys, which ends in a flamewar.

I'm not saying everyone who likes the game is a fanboy, I mean the fanboy fanboys, the ones who would have master chief's offspring if given the chance, and their nerdy friends who don't want to have to go back to solo playing because they made the fanboy angry.
 

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happysock said:
what is the point of this post except fan boyism we are not discussing anything.
I'll answer that if you can tell me what the point of all the other threads on Halo hate? Can't do it? Then let him talk.

I, for one, am on the Halo lovin' side. Multiplayer is a blast, and campaigns pretty fun too.
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
happysock said:
Uh...he agreed with you.
Vanguard.
He even said "I hate to say it but: this." after quoting you!


I am almost 100% certain his other comment was directed at the OP.
O I thought both were directed at me, thanks for clearing it up (y)
 

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Its a fun game at time but it will never live up to its legendary standards that the press and many fan boys gave it. I like the games but not too fond of multiplayer online mainly because I'm terrible at it and I dislike 12 year olds "killing the noob" So I'll just stick with my Cod CSS and L4d as my fps
 

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happysock said:
MaxTheReaper said:
happysock said:
Uh...he agreed with you.
Vanguard.
He even said "I hate to say it but: this." after quoting you!


I am almost 100% certain his other comment was directed at the OP.
O I thought both were directed at me, thanks for clearing it up (y)
Gilbert Munch said:
happysock said:
what is the point of this post except fan boyism we are not discussing anything.
I'll answer that if you can tell me what the point of all the other threads on Halo hate? Can't do it? Then let him talk.

I, for one, am on the Halo lovin' side. Multiplayer is a blast, and campaigns pretty fun too.
Tell me how did you find these, perhaps by using the search bar??? which is what the guy that started this thread should have done, to find the billions of others about the same thing.
And I will tell you the point of the other threads, and i want to know the answer of the point of this one, without ripping of my answer and changing it round so the shoe is on the other foot. The point of the other threads are pointing out that the game is overhyped by people like you. Yes the game is good, but after he first one the second one didn't have that much going for it, except the multiplayer, and the last installment brough even less to the table, Forge. So now answer me this then, where is the point in this thread????
 

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happysock said:
happysock said:
MaxTheReaper said:
happysock said:
Uh...he agreed with you.
Vanguard.
He even said "I hate to say it but: this." after quoting you!


I am almost 100% certain his other comment was directed at the OP.
O I thought both were directed at me, thanks for clearing it up (y)
Gilbert Munch said:
happysock said:
what is the point of this post except fan boyism we are not discussing anything.
I'll answer that if you can tell me what the point of all the other threads on Halo hate? Can't do it? Then let him talk.

I, for one, am on the Halo lovin' side. Multiplayer is a blast, and campaigns pretty fun too.
Tell me how did you find these, perhaps by using the search bar??? which is what the guy that started this thread should have done, to find the billions of others about the same thing.
And I will tell you the point of the other threads, and i want to know the answer of the point of this one, without ripping of my answer and changing it round so the shoe is on the other foot. The point of the other threads are pointing out that the game is overhyped by people like you. Yes the game is good, but after he first one the second one didn't have that much going for it, except the multiplayer, and the last installment brough even less to the table, Forge. So now answer me this then, where is the point in this thread????
People like me? Sorry, but I don't quite understand what you're aiming at? Would you prefer to play Gears of War, or Call of Duty, both great games on par with Halo? I'd say that the problem is you - people who intentionally hate on Halo. I don't think anybody can say the multiplayer is bad, so try to make a decent point next time, and please don't try to come across as a Halo hateboy.
 

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Gilbert Munch said:
happysock said:
happysock said:
MaxTheReaper said:
happysock said:
Uh...he agreed with you.
Vanguard.
He even said "I hate to say it but: this." after quoting you!


I am almost 100% certain his other comment was directed at the OP.
O I thought both were directed at me, thanks for clearing it up (y)
Gilbert Munch said:
happysock said:
what is the point of this post except fan boyism we are not discussing anything.
-snip-
People like me? Sorry, but I don't quite understand what you're aiming at? Would you prefer to play Gears of War, or Call of Duty, both great games on par with Halo? I'd say that the problem is you - people who intentionally hate on Halo. I don't think anybody can say the multiplayer is bad, so try to make a decent point next time, and please don't try to come across as a Halo hateboy.
I am not a Halo hate boy and what I am trying to get at is that it is the fans who have ruined the halo franchise, with their arrogance, A lot of people would back me up by saying that the halo fanbase is one of the worst fanbases around, and yes I would rather play call of duty than halo I feel it has a much betterfeel to it and I would rather play a more realistic game (personal opinion), yes halo is fun, but where is the point in playing if all there is is 12 year old kids hyped up how the game is awesome whom you cannot speak to whilst playing. The point I was aiming at I thought was fairly clear,
 

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happysock said:
Gilbert Munch said:
happysock said:
happysock said:
MaxTheReaper said:
happysock said:
Uh...he agreed with you.
Vanguard.
He even said "I hate to say it but: this." after quoting you!


I am almost 100% certain his other comment was directed at the OP.
O I thought both were directed at me, thanks for clearing it up (y)
Gilbert Munch said:
happysock said:
what is the point of this post except fan boyism we are not discussing anything.
-snip-
People like me? Sorry, but I don't quite understand what you're aiming at? Would you prefer to play Gears of War, or Call of Duty, both great games on par with Halo? I'd say that the problem is you - people who intentionally hate on Halo. I don't think anybody can say the multiplayer is bad, so try to make a decent point next time, and please don't try to come across as a Halo hateboy.
I am not a Halo hate boy and what I am trying to get at is that it is the fans who have ruined the halo franchise, with their arrogance, A lot of people would back me up by saying that the halo fanbase is one of the worst fanbases around, and yes I would rather play call of duty than halo I feel it has a much betterfeel to it and I would rather play a more realistic game (personal opinion), yes halo is fun, but where is the point in playing if all there is is 12 year old kids hyped up how the game is awesome whom you cannot speak to whilst playing. The point I was aiming at I thought was fairly clear,
I'm not going to continue this any further, for fear of mod intervention. But I do leave you with this: you say your point was clear, yet all you seemed to say was that Halo is an overhyped mess. Overhyped, yes, mess, no.

Munch out.
 

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eoin90210 said:
The amount of people who say Halo is an atrocity to gaming is preposterous and I want to know why? I can understand Halo 3 but Halo was innovative console-wise, Halo 2 had a good storyline with the Arbiter, Halo 3 at least had great multiplayer and if you have all the backstory it's a great story. Now I don't know if I'm biased because my memories are rose tinted with the memory of me and my dad playing through co-operatively but I played through it recently played through it and loved every second.
You could read what people have said in the countless other threads we have had about this.
But hell, just because I'm a nice guy, I'll copy-paste what I said in a similar thread just two days ago... TWO DAYS!:

It's a shooter, and as shooters go, a pretty standard one. There is shooting, and there is not shooting, end of story. There isn't really a whole lot to get wrong, like a tricycle, if you're not a complete moron, you can pull it off. Other shooters try to add more elements, and if they pull them off, then they might be above the rest, and if they fail, they will be below. But Halo does not deserve much praise as it is pretty fucking standard. There was almost nothing in it I hadn't seen before in earlier games.

Edit: Also, Halo doesn't deserve much crap either, as it did what it did fairly smoothly, but it didn't try to do much, so still. I guess I just wish people would shut up about it soon.
 

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A game doesn't have to be PERFECT to be fun. Was Halo perfect? No. The first Halo began as a Mac RTS, then became a PC shooter. Halfway through production they were forced by Microsoft to make it into a console shooter. Twice they had to redo the game on a tight budget and time limit, and it was still a fun game. Halo 2 wasn't even any farther than the planning stages when the E3 trailer was made, and they managetd to throw it together quickly without any major screwups. It was good but the real star was the multiplayer. 3 had a fun if not interesting story mode, but it was really fun which made up for it. IMO the multiplayer was average. Average because the chocolate-covered diamonds were in the same bag as the scat-covered pebbles. Overall, the Halo series didn't live up to the hype. But it gave us loads of fun trying, and in a game that's all that counts.
 

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Can the mods make a filter that auto deletes any new threads with the words 'why', 'hate' and 'halo' in the title? This is just getting silly now.

I'll paraphrase my response to a previous thread, I've never met anyone who >hates< Halo, I have met plenty of people who were very disappointed with it after all the hype and praise it gathered.
 

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eoin90210 said:
The amount of people who say Halo is an atrocity to gaming is preposterous and I want to know why? I can understand Halo 3 but Halo was innovative console-wise, Halo 2 had a good storyline with the Arbiter, Halo 3 at least had great multiplayer and if you have all the backstory it's a great story. Now I don't know if I'm biased because my memories are rose tinted with the memory of me and my dad playing through co-operatively but I played through it recently played through it and loved every second.
What is this? Halo Fucking fanboy week or something? This is like the 8th time in this week alone a "new thread" with THE EXACT SAME NAME!!!! has been created. -.-