I just don't understand why everyone seems to hate the Modern Warfare series so much. I mean, I'm not calling it the pinnacle of modern military FPS or anything, but I found both MW1 and MW2 to be quite enjoyable and I'm certainly dropping some dead presidents when MW3 comes out. But I was just curios as to why so many people are whining about how much it sucks. Is it just blatant fanboyism? Or am I just completely oblivious as to what good games are? Now please don't rage at me or something immature like that, I'm simply trying to wrap my head around the opinions of others.
Why All The Hate?
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Seriously, this crap again? I mean... SERIOUSLY!? This has been done hundreds, thousands... MILLIONS time over (Ok, I may be bending the numbers a bit there). Maybe "all the hate" is because people have different opinions and tastes than you do. There is plethora of more specific reasons already expressed, if you use the search bar.
I completely understand that. No gamer group has every pissed me off more then the MW crowd. Even more than Gears.Saelune said:
True, hadn't thought of that. And I realize people have their opinions, I was just curios about them and desired to have a reason behind them. I'm not going to defend the game if someone hates it because they're not the one playing it and that's perfectly fine. I have no problem with their opinions since my opinions still allow me to have a good time playing it. Could be due to the fact that I'm younger and the library of games I've played hasn't grown too much yet.Wuggy said:
I hate it because it's become one of the single most famous video games series today and sold millions of copies, despite being a shockingly average game wth no original concepts or features. It might be fun, but it doesn't deserve it's level of success.
I see what you mean. I've never gotten how games like Metro: 2033 go undiscovered by many while simply O.K games are flying off the shelves.Evil Top Hat said:
Most people hate the community, as opposed to the games themselves. Also, most people here will admit that while they at least enjoyed them, there are many more games that they would rather play.NavalFluff said:
But perhaps the biggest complaint is how there is very little difference between games.
Quickscopers... Bleh.Saelune said:
What happened to seeking out a patch of grass and lie still for minutes waiting for someone to pass by right? Same goes for the AA-12 with extended mags and scavenger >.>
Some things are just lame. Really.. Really lame.
Then again I am one of those people who know what way to throw a grenade and hit things.
It's a weird 6th sense =/
well said.Flack said:
OT: i've tried playing MW and black ops, it was fun at first, but then I tried bad company 2 and i fell in love instantly.
Yes, it has been done thousands of times. But then you realize that there are even more "CoD sucks, boo hoo" threads.Wuggy said:
OT: I like CoD. Heck, I even like Battlefield. I enjoy both series and I really don't care what others think, I only know I'm having a blast playing the games I like. Though sometimes I do think people are just being too hard on CoD. It may be overrated in some areas, yes. But it is also underrated by the people hating on it.
Before I forget, if you pay no attention to Black Ops and WaW (as they are developed by Treyarch, as opposed to Infinity Ward, the guys making the Modern Warfare series for those of you who aren't too familiar), you will notice a lot of differences. MW2 took quite a leap from MW1. It had Special Ops, heartbeat sensors (which added some spice to the game), thermal scopes, let's not forget a brand new campaign and an overhauled multiplayer mode. MW3 now features a Survival mode, something MW2 lacked, and probably more stuff we aren't aware of yet. So, if you honestly think there is absolutely no difference between the games, think again.
Because it's popular, and it's "cool" to hate popular things.
And I don't buy into the "more of the same" crap. Every GTA since the third was more of the same, and people love it. Every Metal Gear game has been more of the same. Every Halo, God of War, Gears of War, etc etc etc have been more of the same.
Because they're sequels. They change enough to be fresh, but are similar enough that it's still the same franchise you like.
And not succumbing to the current trend of COMPLETELY changing a games formula is just a safe move. I don't think the next Call of Duty will be a kart racer, and I'm glad for it.
And I don't buy into the "more of the same" crap. Every GTA since the third was more of the same, and people love it. Every Metal Gear game has been more of the same. Every Halo, God of War, Gears of War, etc etc etc have been more of the same.
Because they're sequels. They change enough to be fresh, but are similar enough that it's still the same franchise you like.
And not succumbing to the current trend of COMPLETELY changing a games formula is just a safe move. I don't think the next Call of Duty will be a kart racer, and I'm glad for it.
1) Battlefield is just straight up better, which doesn't make me hate Call of Duty, it just makes me not care at all.
2) That whole thing with the original design team getting canned and hot swapped for a far worse team did make me pissed, mainly because people keep buying it, and companies shouldn't be rewarded for firing their talent and parading the license around like a fucking shameless, used-up puppet (which has happened a lot in the short history of gaming: Silent Hill, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, and I'm sure a ton more I don't even know about). I liked the first Call of Duty, it was intense, and the developers are what made it so, and I heard the first Modern Warfare was good for the same reason but I can't really be bothered to check due to point 1. So yeah, this is where my ire begins to rise with the modern CoD franchise, and Activision for that matter.
3) People are constantly raving about it and bros are constantly playing it. I HATE when mediocre games are talked up, meanwhile I can picture a rather massive stack of all the original-epic-true-works-of-art games out there that the idiot foaming at the mouth for CoD has never played and had no interest in playing because original ideas are scary to such a person. Then I contemplate how this trend, for large hordes of people to buy mindless, mediocre-at-best, shooters, makes it impossible for the few really creative people we have left in the games industry to even pitch their game to a publisher because it's not going to make "Call of Duty Money".
So yeah, aside from the one logical, history based bit for point 2, and my simple taste bias (if you count better maps, player count, graphics, bullet physics, actually differing class types, vehicles, and destructible environments as a difference in taste and not just... you know... better... >_>), it really all boils down to one idea: "Fuck anything popular enough to make the big-wigs aim every game in that direction, and for that matter fuck the big-wigs."
2) That whole thing with the original design team getting canned and hot swapped for a far worse team did make me pissed, mainly because people keep buying it, and companies shouldn't be rewarded for firing their talent and parading the license around like a fucking shameless, used-up puppet (which has happened a lot in the short history of gaming: Silent Hill, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, and I'm sure a ton more I don't even know about). I liked the first Call of Duty, it was intense, and the developers are what made it so, and I heard the first Modern Warfare was good for the same reason but I can't really be bothered to check due to point 1. So yeah, this is where my ire begins to rise with the modern CoD franchise, and Activision for that matter.
3) People are constantly raving about it and bros are constantly playing it. I HATE when mediocre games are talked up, meanwhile I can picture a rather massive stack of all the original-epic-true-works-of-art games out there that the idiot foaming at the mouth for CoD has never played and had no interest in playing because original ideas are scary to such a person. Then I contemplate how this trend, for large hordes of people to buy mindless, mediocre-at-best, shooters, makes it impossible for the few really creative people we have left in the games industry to even pitch their game to a publisher because it's not going to make "Call of Duty Money".
So yeah, aside from the one logical, history based bit for point 2, and my simple taste bias (if you count better maps, player count, graphics, bullet physics, actually differing class types, vehicles, and destructible environments as a difference in taste and not just... you know... better... >_>), it really all boils down to one idea: "Fuck anything popular enough to make the big-wigs aim every game in that direction, and for that matter fuck the big-wigs."
It's because it's a very popular series but they release the same game every year and make millions off of it. It's really frustrating because many people will have a smaller game they really like that they wish was more popular because they find it really good.
Now they try MW and they may not like it's gameplay style. Im not bashing it but it's designed to rope in the largest audience possible. This means that many people who play games that appeal to a smaller audience including them may not enjoy this and that's fine.
Also they can easily be put off by the cesspool of a community. It really has one of the worst communities in gaming, it could be because it's the biggest but when people play they will encounter lots and lots of f****** and get very annoyed.
Then when they will resent MW because what seems like a crappy game to them has such a huge fanbase of what to them seems to consist of only idiots.
Meanwhile games they like are not as popular and it doesn't help matters when all the COD fanboy's come on here to "Defend" it.
Personally I liked Cod but got bored of it and stopped playing at MW2 when they started letting you choose killstreaks. But yeah that's usaully why people will hate on COD, not "because it's popular" or "because they suck at it".
Now they try MW and they may not like it's gameplay style. Im not bashing it but it's designed to rope in the largest audience possible. This means that many people who play games that appeal to a smaller audience including them may not enjoy this and that's fine.
Also they can easily be put off by the cesspool of a community. It really has one of the worst communities in gaming, it could be because it's the biggest but when people play they will encounter lots and lots of f****** and get very annoyed.
Then when they will resent MW because what seems like a crappy game to them has such a huge fanbase of what to them seems to consist of only idiots.
Meanwhile games they like are not as popular and it doesn't help matters when all the COD fanboy's come on here to "Defend" it.
Personally I liked Cod but got bored of it and stopped playing at MW2 when they started letting you choose killstreaks. But yeah that's usaully why people will hate on COD, not "because it's popular" or "because they suck at it".
WOAH, WOAH! Have you played GTAIV and compared it to GTA:SA?! The tone, the gameplay elements, damn dude, almost everything changed except for maybe the sense of humor. It's like you're saying the Chris Nolan Batman movies are exactly the same as the ones made by Joel Schumacher!Uncle_Brainhorn said:
And more of the same from Metal Gear?! Are you high? That series, while still offering a similar game play style was constantly changing it's plot, setting, and characters, and adding in new mechanics.
I mean if you mean it plays the same... I mean I GUESS, maybe, if you ignore advancements, but there's more to a game than just how it plays. That's like saying the Godfather movies are all the same because they have the same actors, soundtrack, and director...