Why all the hubbub over DNF?

[Lusty]

Back in 96/97, the prevailing fanboy debate was between people who liked Duke Nukem and people who liked Quake. It came just after the whole SF2 versus MK2 hubbub.

It was way worse than the console wars of today. For the record, Quake sucked ;-)

 

[Keava]

I was 17 or so when they first announced it. It's a trip to the beautiful, careless teenage past! It's a mix of nostalgia, curiosity and simple feeling that one has to buy a game that grew to be such internet legend, you don't even have to play it, but when your grandchildren ask you about your greatest treasure you can show them box of DNF.

 

[Amnestic]

For the record, Quake sucked ;-)

Oh no you di'n't! *fingersnap*

 

[RowdyRodimus]

Because to put it into really nerdy terms, Duke Nukem is The Transformers and Serious Sam is the Go-Bots, the Transformers retarded cousin from Canada and not the cool part of Canada, but the French speaking part.

 

[fjelding]

I dont really get all the hubbub. Its a game with a rather lengthy development time.
Dont get me wrong, ive play all the Duke Nukem games and I love them to bits. Duke Nukem 3D moste of all. Hours and hours of one-liner fun (back then anyways).

What im hopeing is, that DNF will show that not all shooters need to be super serious like MW and BF. (I realize that these games like TimeShift and Singularity out there, but FUN games? I remember them as being really pretty games but not laughing while playing them)
It's freaking fun to blast a super hog in the face with a shotgun and then the Duke goes, "Makin' Bacon" or what ever.

I guess what im trying to say is, i'd like to see a return of the games that let you do rocket jumps and the like, and DFN (I hope) is a step in that direction.

Damn, I guess this did turn in to a screaming fanboy rant after all -.-

 

[migo]

A topic asking why everyone is talking about DNF....is still talking about DNF. So if it's a problem(I certainly didn't notice if it is) then you aren't really helping it with this.

Just saying.

You didn't actually read the post.

Actually, I did. Then I read it again to make sure I wasn't missing something. Apparently, I am anyway. What exactly are you objecting to?

Not as much objection as I am wondering. Serious Sam has been bringing the same straight humour into shooters since 2001, and for that matter development started around the same time DNF was supposed to, so it's been filling Duke's shoes for ages. DNF isn't bringing anything back - those of us who wanted it could play the game that was in every major video card benchmark for at least 5 years.

Because it's been in production for a long time, been put on life support, went to the grave and returned shining, heavily speculated and it's Duke Nukem.

Imagine a game being cancelled (it was right?) and in a constant pattern of this for 10 years and then it's finally going to be released! I'm sure you can understand that right?

You also only read the title.

Back in 96/97, the prevailing fanboy debate was between people who liked Duke Nukem and people who liked Quake. It came just after the whole SF2 versus MK2 hubbub.

It was way worse than the console wars of today. For the record, Quake sucked ;-)

Really? I didn't know anyone who didn't love both Quake and Duke Nukem 3D. Shado Warrior was less well known, but I didn't really see any sort of debates crop up until Unreal showed up saying it was going to kick Quake 2's ass (it did, although by then everyone cared more about online deathmatches).

I dont really get all the hubbub. Its a game with a rather lengthy development time.
Dont get me wrong, ive play all the Duke Nukem games and I love them to bits. Duke Nukem 3D moste of all. Hours and hours of one-liner fun (back then anyways).

What im hopeing is, that DNF will show that not all shooters need to be super serious like MW and BF. (I realize that these games like TimeShift and Singularity out there, but FUN games? I remember them as being really pretty games but not laughing while playing them)
It's freaking fun to blast a super hog in the face with a shotgun and then the Duke goes, "Makin' Bacon" or what ever.

I guess what im trying to say is, i'd like to see a return of the games that let you do rocket jumps and the like, and DFN (I hope) is a step in that direction.

Damn, I guess this did turn in to a screaming fanboy rant after all -.-

And you also didn't read the first post. Jeez.

Serious Sam for fuck's sake. It's been here all along. Did everyone only play Duke Nukem 3D because you could press spacebar to see pixelated titties? That's about all SSTFE is missing...

 

[repeating integers]

The real reason for all the hubbub is this.

Duke Nukem Forever's confirmation is largely regarded as one of the six signs of the apocalypse.

The place it has in video game culture was special. Saying "when Duke Nukem Forever comes out" was like saying "When pigs fly". It was basically a running joke, but nobody really thought it was ever going to be released.

Now it's been confirmed, a whole mini-culture of humour just died an ignominious death. That;s why there's so much hubbub.

 

[Wolfram23]

It's a big deal because Duke Nukem 3D warped my fragile adolescent mind. And now, years and years and years and years later, the sequel.

But I definitely think the hype is far blown out of proportion... it'll probably be fun but mediocre.

 

[Optimus Hagrid]

I don't really understand why Serious Sam is compared to Duke Nukem 3D so often. Yes they both have one-liner spouting protagonists and yes they star in fast paced FPSes but their games are pretty different. Serious Sam exists to provide silly, OOT, epic combat where swathes of enemies literally spawn in your face to shoot you. Duke 3D is a much more claustrophobic, atmospheric experience in which you use your wits, the environment and cool gadgets to smush the baddies.

Personally I go into each game expecting different experiences, it just so happens I prefer the experience offered by Douk. If this new release is anything like 3D then I'm interested.

[sub]Was that on topic? I can't really tell, but QI is on.[/sub]

 

[Nouw]

A topic asking why everyone is talking about DNF....is still talking about DNF. So if it's a problem(I certainly didn't notice if it is) then you aren't really helping it with this.

Just saying.

You didn't actually read the post.

Actually, I did. Then I read it again to make sure I wasn't missing something. Apparently, I am anyway. What exactly are you objecting to?

Not as much objection as I am wondering. Serious Sam has been bringing the same straight humour into shooters since 2001, and for that matter development started around the same time DNF was supposed to, so it's been filling Duke's shoes for ages. DNF isn't bringing anything back - those of us who wanted it could play the game that was in every major video card benchmark for at least 5 years.

Because it's been in production for a long time, been put on life support, went to the grave and returned shining, heavily speculated and it's Duke Nukem.

Imagine a game being cancelled (it was right?) and in a constant pattern of this for 10 years and then it's finally going to be released! I'm sure you can understand that right?

You also only read the title.

Back in 96/97, the prevailing fanboy debate was between people who liked Duke Nukem and people who liked Quake. It came just after the whole SF2 versus MK2 hubbub.

It was way worse than the console wars of today. For the record, Quake sucked ;-)

Really? I didn't know anyone who didn't love both Quake and Duke Nukem 3D. Shado Warrior was less well known, but I didn't really see any sort of debates crop up until Unreal showed up saying it was going to kick Quake 2's ass (it did, although by then everyone cared more about online deathmatches).

I dont really get all the hubbub. Its a game with a rather lengthy development time.
Dont get me wrong, ive play all the Duke Nukem games and I love them to bits. Duke Nukem 3D moste of all. Hours and hours of one-liner fun (back then anyways).

What im hopeing is, that DNF will show that not all shooters need to be super serious like MW and BF. (I realize that these games like TimeShift and Singularity out there, but FUN games? I remember them as being really pretty games but not laughing while playing them)
It's freaking fun to blast a super hog in the face with a shotgun and then the Duke goes, "Makin' Bacon" or what ever.

I guess what im trying to say is, i'd like to see a return of the games that let you do rocket jumps and the like, and DFN (I hope) is a step in that direction.

Damn, I guess this did turn in to a screaming fanboy rant after all -.-

And you also didn't read the first post. Jeez.

Serious Sam for fuck's sake. It's been here all along. Did everyone only play Duke Nukem 3D because you could press spacebar to see pixelated titties? That's about all SSTFE is missing...

I did read the first post, just please retort. I have no idea what you're saying.

 

[Bonecrusher]

Serious Sam already took over Duke Nukem's shoes ages ago, and development is actually continuing by the original devs. Sure, DNF's vapourware status has been a funny running joke, but it's not like it'll bring back a style of gaming that is otherwise nonexistant in the dreary field of brown shooters.

Yes, I get all that, and Serious Sam does all that.

serious sam is nothing, compared to duke nukem. serious sam was a poster hero for a game engine advertisement.
duke nukem was with pc gamers for 3 games (if you don't count manhattan game and ps game).
he is "solid snake" of pc community.
ultimate alien ass-kicker.

that's why everyone is looking for a new duke nukem game.

When I was growing up I played Quake and Doom, and then along came Duke with his incredibly funny one-liners and evil aliens to crush beneath his mighty boot. Or even his dual-wielded mighty boot, one of the most retarded and hilarious melee combinations I have ever seen.

He's Duke FUCKING Nukem! I myself am fully looking forwards to what will hopefully be another politically incorrect shooter filled with tits and alien blood. I have no problem with all the brown shooters, but something which sticks its middle finger up to the PC-brigade will be a welcome distraction.

agree.

 

[Amnestic]

he is "solid snake" of pc community.

Oh good lord you're serious.

Haruhi almighty, I worry for this generation if people are really putting Solid Snake, a character with a story so rich and convoluted with intrigue, double plots and OMG FOXDIE on the same level as fucking Duke Nukem, a guy who smokes, swears, drinks out of the toilet and goes to tity bars. He's Roman from Grand Theft Auto 4. That's who he is.

Duke Nukem is Roman, Niko's Cousin, from GTA4.

You know who's the ""Solid Snake" of the PC Community"? Gordon Freeman. Kane. Commander Shepard. The Bhaalspawn. The Vault Dweller. Arthas. Prince Kael'thas. J.C. Denton. Scores more of characters each far closer to Snake than Duke Nukem could ever hope to be.