Why America?

[Ken Korda]

This is a response to the thread discussing the most recent murder of an doctor specialising in abortions.
Why has America in recent years under gone this revival of religious extremism. It certainly exists in Europe but only as a minority group. Why do you think the USA has such a particularly strong, fundamentalist movement? Why are doctors being killed in the USA but not in Europe? What is it about living in the US that makes you want to become a religious extremist?

 

[Tehpwnsauce]

You are so ignorant it is unreal. There are not actual facts proving that the person who killed said doctor was even religious in the slightest. So you're statement is false.

 

[ZeroMachine]

You are so ignorant it is unreal. There are not actual facts proving that the person who killed said doctor was even religious in the slightest.

He was killed in a church, which implies it to be some sort of crusade on the shooter's part, but I don't disagree with you... this person is ignorant.

Whether you see it or not, religious fundamentalists are everywhere basically in equal amounts. It's not just America.

 

[Dudemeister]

The person who killed that doctor was pro-life, that doesn't mean they were religious, and it's quite ignorant of you to assume they must be.

 

[Nmil-ek]

You are so ignorant it is unreal. There are not actual facts proving that the person who killed said doctor was even religious in the slightest. So you're statement is false.

Religious extremist, nationalist extremist, pro life extremist all the same kennel of fish, seen one madman preach seen em all.

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

The person who killed that doctor was pro-life, that doesn't mean they were religious, and it's quite ignorant of you to assume they must be.

Is it really though? I bet 99% of pro-lifers will tell you they're like that because "God" says that "life is sacred".
I mean really, what reason could an atheist have to not like abortion (excluding personal experiences)?

 

[joystickjunki3]

Meh, I'll say the same thing I said in another thread: Religious Extremists are the not the majority in the U.S. as some outsiders (or even insiders) might think or lead others to believe. Still, pro-life does not immediately mean religious.

EDIT: I'm not religious, I'm pro-life, but I support a woman's right to choose should the situation come up. I don't support abortion, it's just not my judgement to make.

 

[Barry93]

Late term abortions are cruel whether your pro-choice or pro-life.
And it doesn't mean he's a religous extremist, just an angry religous man.

 

[Tehpwnsauce]

Late term abortions are cruel whether your pro-choice or pro-life.
And it doesn't mean he's a religous extremist, just an angry religous man.

You have no proof that he is religous.

 

[PlasticTree]

You are so ignorant it is unreal. There are not actual facts proving that the person who killed said doctor was even religious in the slightest. So you're statement is false.

His facts are false, but his statement isn't. And I think there's a simple explanation for that one: in America religion is more important, for a bigger part of society, than in Europe. It's not that there is something about the U.S. that makes you want to become a religious extremist, it's the statistical fact that a small part of every group of religious people is an extremist. So more religious people, and more religious people who find their religion more important than the average (compared to Europe), makes more religious extremists.

Of course there are other factors that count, but I'm pretty sure this is a big one.

 

[UltimatheChosen]

Why has America in recent years under gone this revival of religious extremism.

It hasn't. The extremists are just the ones you hear from, since a headline like "90% of Americans are not religious extremists". It's an issue of statistics. Even if only 1% of Americans were extremists, that's still three million people. And three million extremists can make a lot of noise (figuratively speaking).

 

[LordOmnit]

Why has America in recent years under gone this revival of religious extremism[?] What is it about living in the US that makes you want to become a religious extremist?

Honestly the US isn't undergoing a revival of religious extremism. No more or less are joining/leaving religions than at any other time. The real problem is that the people already on that side can't be content to pray and do religious service (I stress this as opposed to "duty" which has always been and forever will be tainted by idiots going around killing people in the name of god and whatever) and take out their frustrations by ranting, raving, and occasionally killing people with different views than them.
Now, that being said I wasn't aware if the doctor really was killed by religious extremists or (strictly) pro-life extremists, but it seems (by the first two replies) that the person wasn't actually religious.

 

[Dudemeister]

The person who killed that doctor was pro-life, that doesn't mean they were religious, and it's quite ignorant of you to assume they must be.

Is it really though? I bet 99% of pro-lifers will tell you they're like that because "God" says that "life is sacred".
I mean really, what reason could an atheist have to not like abortion (excluding personal experiences)?

I agree with what you're saying, I just think that the OP shouldn't immediately assume it was because of 'fundamentalism'.
Although, admittedly, there is a strong possibility of it.

 

[Tehpwnsauce]

The person who killed that doctor was pro-life, that doesn't mean they were religious, and it's quite ignorant of you to assume they must be.

Is it really though? I bet 99% of pro-lifers will tell you they're like that because "God" says that "life is sacred".
I mean really, what reason could an atheist have to not like abortion (excluding personal experiences)?

Then you'd lose your bet.

 

[ygetoff]

Why has America in recent years under gone this revival of religious extremism.

It hasn't. The extremists are just the ones you hear from, since a headline like "90% of Americans are not religious extremists". It's an issue of statistics. Even if only 1% of Americans were extremists, that's still three million people. And three million extremists can make a lot of noise (figuratively speaking).

This. But it doesn't help that our politicians are always rambling on about being men of god.

 

[vxicepickxv]

Why has America in recent years under gone this revival of religious extremism.

It hasn't. The extremists are just the ones you hear from, since a headline like "90% of Americans are not religious extremists". It's an issue of statistics. Even if only 1% of Americans were extremists, that's still three million people. And three million extremists can make a lot of noise (figuratively speaking).

That's because they don't call a hunting season on them.

I keed, I keed.

 

[bodyklok]

I blame rap... And violent video games.

That aside though I think your blowing the whole abortion shooting thing out of proportions. Though it is true that many religious groups try to, and sometimes do, kill people at abortion clinics but I couldn't really say why it is more prevalent in the USA. Maybe their just backwards?

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

The person who killed that doctor was pro-life, that doesn't mean they were religious, and it's quite ignorant of you to assume they must be.

Is it really though? I bet 99% of pro-lifers will tell you they're like that because "God" says that "life is sacred".
I mean really, what reason could an atheist have to not like abortion (excluding personal experiences)?

Then you'd lose your bet.

Explain?

 

[Link Kadeshi]

Pro-Lifers are most notably Pro-Life for religious reasons, and anyone who makes such a move for religious reason is an extremist, so, assuming this killer is not an anomoly, he's rightfully a religious extremist. Now, I always question the right for someone to call themselves Pro-Life, when they take lives so readily. Once a life has been taken, nothing you can do will ever bring it back. This is a currently technological fact. You can say it was for the greater good, but there is no salvation in that answer. It's just a step or two away from being compared to Al-Qaeda terrorists.
As has been said, these such extremists are not a majority, but it only takes a few nut-cases to make them visable.

 

[Barry93]

Late term abortions are cruel whether your pro-choice or pro-life.
And it doesn't mean he's a religous extremist, just an angry religous man.

You have no proof that he is religous.

I didn't mean he was a religous extremist, I'm just assuming he's religous because anyone who goes to church is obviously religous, and if you kill a doctor who performs late term abortion, then it's common sense that the killer is pro-life. So i guess that it's no actual proof, but anyone with the abililty to reason can determine the killer is probably religous. That doesn't matter anyway, imo killing babies at that stage is a good enough reason for killing someone. what i don't understand is why anyone would wait that long to get an abortion anyway.