Why are MOST PC gamers full of so much hatred towards Consoles?

[nuba km]

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You'll have to take my word for this, but I have no bias. I love console games that are suited for their systems, but I recognize the gaping flaws of those that don't. Consequently, when someone says those flaws aren't there, they throw me into a raging fit.

I doubt that all developers suddenly got worse as they started developing for consoles, I'll say that much on that.

And come on, admit that targeting with an analog stick versus a mouse is akin to trying to control a robot arm versus your own.

No, because I find it to be the other way around because aiming while moving is a hell of a lot easier with a controller then a keyboard and mouse. In fact the only times I find a key board an mouse better for an FPS is when you are trying to snip a moving target.

 

[Iron Mal]

I once made a point in a thread about 'how PC gaming was dying' in which I said it isn't really dying so much as it's just losing relevence and isn't the center of attention anymore.

The price is one reason for the console's greater popularity, getting a really good gaming PC can cost anywhere up of £1000 (for the really good stuff with the jaw dropping visuals and top performance), that's not having even purchased the game and not taking into account the fact that you'll have to maintain and upgrade them every now and then (costing even more money).

An Xbox or PS3 will set you back about £250/£300 (and that's sometimes coming with a couple of free games or an arcade compilation disc) and almost never needs upgrading (repairs and maintainance are taken care of for you for nothing if you still have a warranty).

People vote with their wallets and it just turns out that the greater majority of people aren't willing to fork out so much cash for a platform that has become somewhat dated by todays standards.

When I say dated I really do mean it, PC's have lost their leading edge against most consoles today, the experience they offer isn't significantly superior to that offered on a console in any meaningful way (if it's even superior at all, the playing field has really levelled now to the point where it's kind of pointless argueing over which looks prettier).

The most vocal PC gamers fly into a fury when the latest games aren't like their favourites from the last generations (see the number of people complaining that Mass Effect 2 isn't an RPG or that games have been 'dumbed down' by having simplified and streamlined controls) or just outright complain that everything is shit (how many people bad mouthed MW2 on here just because of the dedicated server thing?), then there's the whole pircy thing (which is vastly more commonplace on PC than consoles and I can prove this on an etch-a-sketch).

Put all of this together and it's clear that quite a large portion of the PC gamer community seems to have some serious entitlement issues, I wish this was just sarcasm or baseless assumption but a lot of you seem to act like Kratos from God of War 2, devs aren't likely to want to put years of their lives into making something for you if you're just going to throw a childish fit and rip it apart on grounds of being a 'cheap, shitty knock-off' for the 'consoletards' (when this sort of behavior and reaction from your most vocal members naturally results in you not getting as many high profile releases you suddenly then start screaming at them and console gamers like it's their fault, way to go guys).

I'm not saying that console gamers are much more mature (we all know about Xbox Live) but you're not as likely to see console gamers preaching 'worst game EVAR' because it didn't appease us, we usually just stick to calling other players 'fags', 'n****rs' or implying that we had sexual relations with our opponent's mother.

I do have more arguements for the console vs. PC arguement but I'm aware that this is fast becoming a ranty wall of text.

 

[Captain Booyah]

Blegh, the whole argument is pretty much bullshit, to me. I find that there's a very vocal minority on both sides that loooove a flame war to flex their INCREDABAL SMARTZ, and in this day and age, there's more or less something for everybody anyway: some people are PC users, some are console users. It all depends on what you're used to; for example, I'm primarily a console person, because I grew up with a PlayStation controller, not to mention I'm not the tech-savviest girl in the world. I don't think one is 'better' than the other, because they both have pros and cons. While some games may play better on a PC than a console (and vice versa), if we're focusing on the big picture here -- the game as a whole -- then a slight difference in enemy AI isn't necessarily gamebreaking. Not to mention there's still a plethora of great games for every platform.

Personal opinion? If you're seriously arguing that PC IS ALWAYS BETTER THAN CONSOLE OMG, then congrats, you're a hopeless fanboy. PC vs. Console is no different to PS3 vs. 360, PC vs. Mac, etc. etc. Mix and match, my darlings. It's not always such a bad thing.

 

[TheBoulder]

Simply put: consoles have caused games to be dumbed down over the generations. If I wanted to do nothing but spend twenty hours pulling a trigger to cause loud noises, I'd go to a gun range. What a concept, eh? PC gamers discovered the greatness of FPS games in the nineties. We were ready to move on ten years ago. But unfortunately, soccer moms, frat boys, and children under ten all decided to pick that time to get into gaming and ruin it for the rest of us.

But truthfully, we also just plain enjoy watching console gamers squirm when they realize the limitations of their chosen platform. Always a riot.

Okay, now let's assume that you're right. Who cares if games have been 'dumbed down'? Is gaming supposed to be a gentleman's endeavor? No, it was made to be fun for all ages. Now stop generating a flame war on this thread.

 

[Delusibeta]

Consoles have simply made gaming more accessible and mainstream.

Translation: Increased the amount of money going into developers and publishers pockets, therefore increasing the quantity of games with each passing year.

Fixed for you. You can thank me later.

How did that error not get picked up? Quality is subjective, and money does not lead to an increase in quality.

No, because I find it to be the other way around because aiming while moving is a hell of a lot easier with a controller then a keyboard and mouse. In fact the only times I find a key board an mouse better for an FPS is when you are trying to snip a moving target.

Honestly? Time for a Defrag video!
And thus, I conclude that mouse and keyboards are better.

 

[TheBoulder]

Simply put: consoles have caused games to be dumbed down over the generations. If I wanted to do nothing but spend twenty hours pulling a trigger to cause loud noises, I'd go to a gun range. What a concept, eh? PC gamers discovered the greatness of FPS games in the nineties. We were ready to move on ten years ago. But unfortunately, soccer moms, frat boys, and children under ten all decided to pick that time to get into gaming and ruin it for the rest of us.

But truthfully, we also just plain enjoy watching console gamers squirm when they realize the limitations of their chosen platform. Always a riot.

Okay, now let's assume that you're right. Who cares if games have been 'dumbed down'? Is gaming supposed to be a gentleman's endeavor? No, it was made to be fun for all ages. Now stop generating a flame war on this thread.

A huge part of fun in any good game is in the depth of its gameplay. If all you can do is hide behind a chest-high wall and dart in an out of cover for hours, it loses its appeal really quickly.

Everything in existence can sound boring if you explain it as blandly as you did.
Ex: You just do some random shit no one will notice, it's usually painful, and when it's done, no one will remember a thing you did. That's life explained blandly.

 

[TheBoulder]

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If a whole game's actual gameplay is, in essence, this, I can't see what you're trying to argue. There are lots of games that are purely what I've described. That doesn't reek of depth in gameplay in any sense of the word.

Funny thing is, you didn't try to argue it, you countered with an example that is irrelevant. Converting what you said to games would be the same as "You play a game, it usually takes some effort, but then it's over. Noone gives a shit".

Actually, most, if not all of the games you would list have more than you claim. My example is in fact relevant, because all you said was "hide behind a chest-high wall and dart in an out of cover for hours". Every game has more than that, except the classic, old-school games where you don't do shit.

 

[TheBoulder]

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Oh? Well, what kind of depth beyond that does Mass Effect 2's gameplay have?

Epic story, nicely written dialogue. Huh, but at least it can keep my attention for hours on end. Tell me, what's your favourite game, so I can it look bland.

 

[Nexoram]

Usually in most threads you come across, full of PC gamers (fanboys, if you will) and Console gamers, it always turns into a gigantic flame war on what is better.

One thing that i always did notice is that the PC gamers are usually the ones to start the whole war. It almost seems like they get enjoyment out of starting pointless arguments and debates. Big deal, you paid nearly 1 grand, maybe more just so you can game with a mouse and a keyboard. Paying more for your gaming situation gives you no excuse to talk down on people who pay less for their gaming set ups (I.e console gamers).

I also see no legitimate reasons being stated as to why they hate console gaming. They just start bringing up the whole "Specs vs Specs" debate, and never state factual statements on why they hate/dislike consoles/console gamers.

Why can't you enjoy both? I'm a console gamer/ex PC gamer, but i enjoyed both without bad mouthing on or the other.

I respect both console and PC gamers highly, and i honestly don't see why there always has to be a pointless argument over which is better.

Both platforms have pros and cons, along with excellent games. Some fantastic games are on the PC which are not cross-platform. Some Fantastic games are on the console which are also exclusive.

Thanks for reading, and i hope you do respect this post as a form of ones opinion.

I haven't really seen any flame wars recently but I have something to add. It's probably the game developers we PC gamers are angry at. Not the consoles. The developers are being lazy and giving us shit ports of what could have been great games on the PC. Check on Metacritic, almost all the PC games are rated below the 360 and PS3 counterparts.

 

[Jimbo1212]

Consoles hold back PC games as PCs will always eventually out perform consoles.
Also, due to the target market and used interfaces, console games have been made more simple which can be annoying as again, this limits the possibilities of games for the PC.

 

[TheBoulder]

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I mention story because you influence what happens a lot of the time.
As for Warcraft 3, it's an RTS. Yo make units, send them at the enemy, and then destroy their base. You see different level skins, but that's it for variation.

 

[TheBoulder]

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I mention story because you influence what happens a lot of the time.
As for Warcraft 3, it's an RTS. Yo make units, send them at the enemy, and then destroy their base. You see different level skins, but that's it for variation.

Well I counter that by saying that in the game there is a levelling, skill and item system that is still unparalleled in RTS games to this day. Not to mention at least half of the missions have unique mission designs that range from dungeon crawling to a domination (hold a control point for long enough) mission. You still haven't tried to argue what I said.

Ironically, the game has deeper RPG elements than the aforementioned Mass Effect 2, and this is a bloody RTS game.

*GASP* A game has more RPG elements than another, whatever shall we do? Unlike others, I do not mourn the loss of RPG elements in Mass Effect because it was just a couple powers and useless guns. As or the original argument, I wasn't arguing against it, I was just pointing out how it's easy to explain games blandly.

 

[TheBoulder]

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I told you at least twice, I'm arguing the depth of gameplay.

I know that, I wasn't arguing against it.