Why are RPGs developed in Europe so unoriginal?
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I wouldn't recommend Gothic 4 if you're looking for a good, sandboxish RPG.Sean.Devlin said:
The game progression is tunneled and pretty linear.
The responsibility is none-existant. (For example, in Gothic 3 you could attack anyone you want at any time and arn't even allowed to have your weapon out in some places, in Gothic 4 they don't care and at some points you can't even attack the bad guys that are right infront of you until you get a particular quest.)
The quests are just terrible, typical boring fetch quests and geting pushed around like you're some bloody errand boy.
There are barely any choices in what you do and dialogue.
Voice acting and characters are off.
Actual combat is only decent in my opinion.
The main character is just.. urgh, I dispise both his "cool" appearance and "personality". He's not blank enough to be a Gordon Freeman and he's not good enough to be a.. Captain Shepard or whatever.
I'd like looking into the earlier Gothic games if I were you. Altho I liked Gothic 3, most players of 1&2 say it's bad. I havn't goten around to playing the two earlier ones myself yet.
Also consider the censors that are ridiculously oppressive in Germany and other European countries.Defense said:
They pretty much have to keep everything PG-13 and not cannot afford the same liberties as Movies or almost any other medium. I think so many simply do not want to risk it in their own home market getting de-facto banned.
They could set a game in the present or far future, but the guns would just get ire of ratings boards. The same old Medieval is detached and politically correct.
Saying that WRPGs are unoriginal is like saying the entire population of the UK is made up of white people. It's just not true, there are many diverse WRPGs and you need to look further. Could you please specify before making the big assumption.
You got that right.Witty Name Here said:
And this.AjimboB said:
OT: Well i am not really tired of euro rpgs but the selection isn't that big. Nor are the JRPG ones. Though OP you should try out the Fable games contains a lot of humor and other fun things.
This^ There all not the same, just as not all JRPGS are not the same(as much as I hate to admit it).Lotet said:
It just about getting to know the subtle differences only fans of the genre would get.
If you don't generally enjoy the genre then there all going to seem alike to you.
EDIT: Would also like to point out unique RPGS such as Bioshock.
The title of this thread suggests that you feel american and japanese RPG games are more original than those developed in europe. To make such a generalisation with only 2 examples of European games and no other examples is, quite frankly, ridiculous.TheTygerfire said:
As you clearly couldn't be bothered to do so yourself, I have carried out some quick research to offer some example of games you have overlooked, to add to the ones people have already posted. If I repeat any then I apologize.
Depending on how you define an RPG, how about some games from British developer Eidos:
The Thief series, Deus Ex, Just Cause.
Frictional Games, responsible for the Penumbra series and Amnesia, is based in Sweden.
Someone has already mentioned the Fable series but I figured another say wouldn't hurt.
The Witcher, which I haven't played myself but it good reviews was developed by a Polish company called CD Projekt.
What about JRPGs is original? Feel free to disagree along with EXAMPLES to back up your point, but as far as I know alot of them use the same combat mechanics and are set in a slightly varied medieval setting (using swords/bows etc).
The same question about american RPGs. The fallout series has some original gameplay and plot elements but what about any others?
Because they're really no different from American developers. They're in it for the business. They want to make money, and the biggest market for gaming is still here (here where I live, USA that is).
Plus, unlike Japan, European gamers really don't have much of a distinction or preference in video games outside of what Americans prefer and like. You guys like Halo, Fallout, Mass Effect, Gears, God of War just as much as we do.
Japan on the other hand has a longer history of developing video games, hell, without them, gaming would have never become what it has. Plus, they just like being different. Taking an invention, name, whatever, and making it their own.
Unfortunately you Europeans have become way to westernized, you guys think way too much like us, at least when it comes to business and entertainment....=P
Plus, unlike Japan, European gamers really don't have much of a distinction or preference in video games outside of what Americans prefer and like. You guys like Halo, Fallout, Mass Effect, Gears, God of War just as much as we do.
Japan on the other hand has a longer history of developing video games, hell, without them, gaming would have never become what it has. Plus, they just like being different. Taking an invention, name, whatever, and making it their own.
Unfortunately you Europeans have become way to westernized, you guys think way too much like us, at least when it comes to business and entertainment....=P
I tend to disagree in the Western RPG vs. Japanese RPG comparisons. I find that the 'WRPG's although aren't as diverse in themes and settings tend to by much more so in terms of gameplay and story.
Whereas its the opposite with JRPGs, they almost always play the same was, no matter how much they want to mix up the combat in Final Fantasy it will always feel like the same game to me, but then tend to be original in settings. As for the story, well its always young (at least young looking) people going off to fight a big bad boss, who in most cases tend to me more interesting than the protagonists are.
Whereas its the opposite with JRPGs, they almost always play the same was, no matter how much they want to mix up the combat in Final Fantasy it will always feel like the same game to me, but then tend to be original in settings. As for the story, well its always young (at least young looking) people going off to fight a big bad boss, who in most cases tend to me more interesting than the protagonists are.