Why are so many people wary of science?

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master m99 said:
people can sometimes be unnerved by what they dont undersatnd i guess
This can sum up nearly every complaint about science. People fear what they don't understand, and what people fear, they fight against. Even if what they're fighting against is based completely in fact.

Also, some people think that science is a political argument, and all I can say to that is *facepalm*.
 

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KnowYourOnion said:
Treefingers said:
Technology (probably in combination with human stupidity) will be the end of us all.
No, We will make our own end. Technology will just facilitate it.
Well when the robots turn on us, i'd say that's less our fault and more technology's.

But yeah i mean, we can't nuke ourselves without having inventing nukes first. So yeah, we'll make our own end. But if it wasn't for technology perhaps it wouldn't be possible.
 

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Because it's the only tool that can kill us if used in a certain way.
 

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It's more that people don't like scientists than people don't like science, it's just that what we refer to as science comes as a result of the work of scientists. Scientists are people, and like all people, they can be manipulative and bias. They can call results ambiguous and simply discard them if it doesn't match their trend instead of thinking about how to improve and can skew results in order for their results to turn out true.

In turn, this can lead to serious problems if they get taken seriously. Take for example Andrew Wakefield et al., a researcher who published a report saying that the MMR vaccine given to kids was shown to give off characteristics to Autism and bowel disease, saying that these characteristcs were caused by the vaccination. As it turned out, the paper was actually all wrong and as a result I have to have a several years late vaccination in a week.

Of course, this is only a small minority of scientists who do lie about research and using this to deny science as a whole is a hasty generalisation, but a small minority is enough to make people cynical about the whole thing (I try to be more of a skeptic myself).

We also have the factor of uncertainty. Physics -- and Quantum specifically -- is the most obvious example of this with all of its sometimes unprovable and sometimes redundant theories[footnote]To quote Niels Bohr: 'Those who think they understand Quantum mechanics haven't spent enough time studying it.'[/footnote], but in pretty much all forms of science there is some uncertainty involved. However, this argument becomes more invalid over time as technology evolves and results become more accurate and consistent.

Nunny said:
People dont like answers.
When people have believed in one thing all thier lives then someone comes along and proves that it is wrong, it can piss alot of people off. I for one think science is great and look forwards to the things that will be discovered (and hopefully dont kill us all).
Actually, people do like answers (that's why people believe in things, it allows them to gain answers), they just don't like something they believe to be true being proven wrong. Saying that people don't like answers and then going on to state that they have believed in one thing all their life is contradictory, as it is that belief that they get answers from.

JIst00 said:
Copernicus I think, but close, Galileo merely built upon and supported Copernicus's idea's.
Both ended up being hated by the church though for their research. Galileo also ended up being hated for disproving Aristotle's theory about the nature of objects contaning the elements Gravity and Levity.

EDIT: The sheer number of people blaming religion for people's skepticism of science is something I find unnecessarily insulting. Whilst a minority of religious extremists will use their religion as a means to deny science, scientific belief and religious belief aren't mutually exclusive, a lot of people in fact believe in both a god or higher being and the theories of science. If so many people believe in both then there must be more causes than simply religion to take into consideration as to why people deny science.
 
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DFish said:
While I agree cancer research was a poor example because of the current funding (although £3 billion more certainly wouldn't go amiss), I did also mention other charities which are, in many cases, underfunded.

I also do not deny your very good point that Particle Physics has aided greatly in many other fields, and that is why I said that I do not dislike all science.

Sadly, I was raised in a strongly religious family, and while I am not religious myself I have been left with an invisible boundary in my mind of where man should not tread, the creation of the Universe and the mass/matter within it is one of those. I realise you will not agree with me here, so agreeing to disagree on where science should go is probably best ;)

JIst00 said:
The Boson, I believe, is related to mass in the Universe and how it was originally formed (although that is incredibly simplified because Particle Physics isn't exactly my strong point. I'm sure DFish can elaborate/correct me if needs be), so it could be related to a cancer cure, I don't see the chances of that being particularly high.

And yes, humanity is always naturally curious, and as such our world is slowly being destroyed. I realise the irony of using technology to say this.
 

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I have no problems with science, in fact if it has facts to back it up its usually the judgement i take. Though i also have no problem with religion either before people see this as a flame thread.
 

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People are wary of science because we don't have our damn flying cars yet like the 50s told us!
 

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The complexity of technology and other advancements have increased over the years, but the common knowledge hasn't. That's the major part of it. When people hear something about particles or nano material, they just discard it as useless stuff for the geeky shut-ins.
Even though acquiring just some general understanding is rather easy...

This might not be the best example, but I saw some episode of Knight Rider where an old guy tells Hasselhoff that his research team has created a radioactive isotope of some element. Mr macho's response is of course "Can you take that in english?"
They thrive in their ignorance.


JEBWrench said:
People are wary of science because we don't have our damn flying cars yet like the 50s told us!
Well, flying cars will always be 50 years in the future.
 

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KnowYourOnion said:
After reading a couple of topics here and else where it struck me that a good percentage of people seem to either harbour doubts about science or openly admit to not trusting scientists in general.
So fellow escapists what do you think about science, scientists and why do some many people dislike "science" overall?
thats because there are so many stupid, religious people in the world
 

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on the subject of science doubt is a healthy aspect, without doubt current theories can't come under scrutiny and be changed if they are wrong, science would end up like religion.
in regards to people being wary of science it could be for a number of reasons:
it could be a threat to their faith/religion,
they may not fully understand it,
or it could be that they don't want other people to know that they don't fully understand it.

science is the pursuit of truth, and the truth is always a threat to someone.
 

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JEBWrench said:
People are wary of science because we don't have our damn flying cars yet like the 50s told us!
Can't have flying cars, imagine sitting at home watching TV when your drunk neighbor comes crashing through your living room.
 

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I think some people are turned off by the idea that a lot of it is guess work, and it takes a LONG time to fully understand a lot of things. Because of that, they decide to dismiss the latest discoveries with the idea that they'll be changed soon enough.

That, or they just like the quick-fix known as religion.
 

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tehroc said:
JEBWrench said:
People are wary of science because we don't have our damn flying cars yet like the 50s told us!
Can't have flying cars, imagine sitting at home watching TV when your drunk neighbor comes crashing through your living room.
See, all these broken promises! And science never returns any of my calls!

Smeagol150 said:
Black Mesa?
Congrats on yon firstest post!
 

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Treefingers said:
KnowYourOnion said:
Treefingers said:
Technology (probably in combination with human stupidity) will be the end of us all.
No, We will make our own end. Technology will just facilitate it.
Well when the robots turn on us, i'd say that's less our fault and more technology's.

But yeah i mean, we can't nuke ourselves without having inventing nukes first. So yeah, we'll make our own end. But if it wasn't for technology perhaps it wouldn't be possible.
That's our fault for not putting safe-guards in place. Ironically now that so many countries have nuclear weapons the world is actually a safer place because of the policy of mutually assured destruction. The real danger is that terrorist group get their hands on nuclear weapons and because of this we should probably invest in detectors for this sort of thing.
 

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KnowYourOnion said:
After reading a couple of topics here and else where it struck me that a good percentage of people seem to either harbour doubts about science or openly admit to not trusting scientists in general.
So fellow escapists what do you think about science, scientists and why do some many people dislike "science" overall?
Personally it's because science is in and of itself a logical paradox. It sells theories as fact, and is incredibly prone to elitism. Most scientists strike me as incredibly arrogant bastards who will, if you so much as begin to question their ideas, either click their tongues and condescendingly explain why you are a moron without actually responding to a word you said, or fly into an impotent nerd rage.