Why are Sony getting more hate than the actual hackers?
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I'm piling more hate on sony cause they keep trying to give us the run around, I realize they may not have known the details about the hack and what was taken but if they had even the slightest belief our personal data or credit cards may have been compromised they should have flat out admitted the problem rather than trying to hide under the guise of emergency maintenance.
Also really annoyed over the whole estimates that the sever would be up with in 24-48 hours, it sounds like they knew it could easily be down this long but they continued to make us believe the server might be back up any hour now and led myself and others to waste a perfectly good holiday weekend.
The biggest thing for me is it sounds like this hack occurred because sony were too lazy to address the known problem that people had custom consoles that were piggybacking on the developer network and that is how they were able to achieve the intrusion.
Also really annoyed over the whole estimates that the sever would be up with in 24-48 hours, it sounds like they knew it could easily be down this long but they continued to make us believe the server might be back up any hour now and led myself and others to waste a perfectly good holiday weekend.
The biggest thing for me is it sounds like this hack occurred because sony were too lazy to address the known problem that people had custom consoles that were piggybacking on the developer network and that is how they were able to achieve the intrusion.
Sony's general incompetence with security? And its arrogance over its product and legal might? Might be a reason...
I'll admit as well, though, (even though I don't own a PS3) that the actual hacker(s) that broke into the database and did what they did deserve more hate than Sony. However, when Sony has already pulled off dickish PR moves and an arguably dubious lawsuit over its own product, people tend to remember these things as a history of the attitude of the company rather than the individual(s) who broke into their database once.
I'll admit as well, though, (even though I don't own a PS3) that the actual hacker(s) that broke into the database and did what they did deserve more hate than Sony. However, when Sony has already pulled off dickish PR moves and an arguably dubious lawsuit over its own product, people tend to remember these things as a history of the attitude of the company rather than the individual(s) who broke into their database once.
What i dont understand is that people are saying thats why xbox 360 is better or im going to xbox. Im pretty sure hackers can hack Microsoft just as they did Sony. And i seriously doubt, hackers just decided to hack Sony and actually did it the same day so its not like Sony left everything unguarded. I think i remember hearing about how a group of hackers have been at Sony for years. or months. not sure but the point is that it took a long time hah.
It's possible, but it seems highly unlikely. And don't get me wrong I'm not saying sony shouldn't be held partly responsible, but the major effort should be finding the hackers and beating the sh*t out of them. or bringing them to court but i like the first option better.joebear15 said:
Ugh... I really don't like how Sony handled protecting our data. As much as I enjoy beating them repeatedly upside the head for how stupidly they handled this, I would love to learn what they'll do to rectify this and prevent a repeat from happening. They've betrayed my trust in how they handled my information, and I really want to know how they will fix this. Hell, I would love to see them punish the jerk who hacked into them in the first place. That would be more satisfying then hating Sony for this. I want the jerk (Really fighting with myself to keep from saying something much more insulting then this) who took my information.
Any organization that collects your secret information has a responsibility to keep it secret. We blame military officials when their plans fall awry and we blame the government when it leaks sensitive data or leaves laptops laying around. We don't just say "spies are bad, blame them".
We don't need to hate the hackers in particular; we already hate them in general.
We don't need to hate the hackers in particular; we already hate them in general.
diggy140892 said:
I think a lot of it has to do with the simple fact that Sony antagonized the hackers, and a lot of people were cheezed off to begin with.
I think it's kind of complicated in of the fact that I think a lot of the people are complaining about the security breach to hurt Sony, rather than much concern about it in of itself, figuring that it will be taken care of, but primarily enjoying seeing them getting slapped around rather deservingly.
It's obtuse, and seems like nonsense when you think about it, but none the less that is the trend. The hackers are viewed as having given people something to use against Sony in an odd way, rather than being seen as the villains.
It says a lot when a company can garner that much ill will.
Truthfully, I think the people defending Sony and it's "defense of it's property" in removing the other OS feature and such were in a minority. It should also be noted that Sony has been building up a lot of ill will for a while that I think is causing a backlash that is not entirely driven by logic. I think the "anything that hurts Sony is good" attitude is fueled by everything from them discontinueing the backwards PS-2 compadibility on the PS-3, to the price of their products, to the digital gimmick promoted with the PSP Go, and even further back to shortages that a lot of people suspect were engineered to generate hype with both the PS-2 and PS-3.
In short I think a floodgate got opened here, and your seeing a lot of unrelated dislike of Sony affecting events and people's reaction despite no real common sense connection. The hackers pretty much were the spark that set off an explosion, they are responsible, but are well clear of the explosion.
I think that if Sony is going to want to get the confidence and support of gamers back, it's going to need to do a lot more than restore security, and make some trivial gestures. I don't think many people want to accept it, but this has brought about a million unrelated things to a head. Heck there are people who still have a massive hate on against Sony for things like "Star Wars Galaxies" or how "Playstation Home" turned out, unrelated, but this gives them a perfect avenue to generally vent and spew venom now that all the attention is on Sony. The exact avenue of attack is not important to someone with a serious hate on, and Sony just has so many of those people out there that they have accumulated over the years it's crazy.
Of course Sony isn't unique here. If Microsoft, Activision-Blizzard, EA, or any other major player with a dubious reputation staggered like happened with Sony over this security, they would also be swamped by shocking numbers of people looking to kick them while they are down, with the actual problem just being the excuse people use for whatever issues are gnawing at them besides that.
A bit rambling, but that's my thoughts on the subject. Sony has used gamers as glorified toilet paper for so long that this has become an excuse to bring things to a head, and nobody cares much about the hackers as a result.
What people are reporting is that Sony kept their private data in a box marked "SUPER SECRET STUFF THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW - DO NOT STEAL" attached to a rusty drainpipe with a bit of string next to a sleeping security guard and a broken security camera. If it was so easy to hack the network, why wasn't it done a long time ago? You think this would have been the first time people attempted to hack the PSN? Fuck no.joebear15 said:
What I'm saying is that Sony had a good system in place and a hacker came along who was either better than the programmers who made the system, or lucky enough to stumble upon an exploit.
Either way, Sony can't genuinely be blamed for it. It can be just 1 line of code out of 1 billion that brings down a system.
It's difficult to pinpoint this 1 line of code.
It's even harder when you don't know what you're looking for.
It's even harder again when you don't even know that there is something you're supposed to be looking for.
I say, find this hacker and give him a job. Pay him to hack the system again and again and again, exploiting and highlighting every single weakness so programmers can then repair the system.
It might have something to do with the fact that many people believe that Sony knew about the security breach days before they told the public about it.