Why are Star Wars episodes I-III deemed so bad?

[dragonslayer32]

Bad acting, the introduction of those stupid gene things and of course, JARJAR.

I didn't like the movies, but I liked the midi chlorian idea. It made sense as to why Jedi were rare after the empire destroyed them, and made sense of why Darth Vader was meant to be so powerful. I hate how people always bring it down to just jar jar binks and bad acting, when it was really just a shitty script (it is seriously hard to be a good actor which such shit dialogue), and Lucas attempting to add a character that would appeal to children. Looking back now, when I was 9 I thought Jar Jar Binks was funny.

I hated the midi chlorian idea. Jedis are supposed to be spiritual people, a bit like the matrix, free your mind, anything is possible. Now, they are saying that only a select few can be jedis and it is either you have it, or you don't. Although all of this is my personal opinion, I haded JarJar and I think the actors are shitty. The only good actors were leam neeson and ewan mcgreggor (I really don't think I have spelled those right)

 

[Breaker deGodot]

Boring, terribly high amounts of CG, Jar Jar Binks (for some, anyway), and the worst romance in pop science fiction history.

 

[Woodsey]

Because people are disillusioned morons.

Don't get me wrong, I love Star Wars, but the originals are hardly masterpieces. Special effects-wise (for the time) they were maybe, but so were the prequels. Once uses miniatures and the other uses a blue screen a lot (although there's more real set there then people give them credit for I think).

They're fun space opera romps (not that kind of romp!), with a bit of food for thought. And that sentence applies to both trilogies.

People are just too stuck up when it comes to the midi-chlorians that were already established in 1977, the year A New Hope was released. Or Jar Jar Binks - an attempt at comic-relief that miscalculated but hardly film-destroying.

Don't even get me started on how a man with the potential to become the most powerful person in the galaxy, who then loses his mother and has the vision of the same thing happening to his wife is not a candidate to join the dark side. Especially when he's told he can save her.

Yeah, you're right people; God-forbid Lucas comes up with human reasons for a person to do the wrong thing.

Oh, and Lucas was just as bad at writing romance in the originals as he was in the prequels.

OH Speaking of Palpatine, 1-3 actually retconned him, just a tad. He's not a true sith or even truly capable of using the force. His lightning bolts come from mechanisms that drain his life to generate them, which is why he rapidly ages after using them. But they basically made him seem like he was a sith accept showing the rapid aging, but they don't explain it.

That's not true. At all.

 

[Wayneguard]

Having first watched the films as a 'tween' I couldn't really see what was so bad about them; epic battles, cool sci-fi gadgets, an extensive universe to work with. But, 11 years after the fan-rage started, I can't help but wonder what exactly set them off. (And yes, I have seen the originals.)

Opinions please.

I'll quote the guy from redlettermedia... "nothing makes any fucking sense".

In all honesty, the characters suck. None of the prequels have characters as cool or with as much personality has han and chewie.

 

[Kenko]

1 word, Midichlorians.

They raped the entire lore ffs. The force has been and always will be a mystic force no one really understands. An entity.

Had they just changed the explenation of midichlorians into "These micro-organisms are sensitive to the force, thus a person who has more of these symbiots will be more sensitive to the force, and even easier to corrupt by the dark side" or something. George Lucas's Midichlorians = retardation and lore-breaking.

Why its lorebreaking? Well take the Valley of the Jedi for example, why is it glowing if its just micro-organisms and not some mystic power? Shouldnt it be a puddle of goo instead? Someone should shoot Lucas and let someone with a little more brains take over, he aint fit to continue his own creations anymore.

 

[Celtic_Kerr]

Bad acting, the introduction of those stupid gene things and of course, JARJAR.

Actually medichlorians have been used in alot of the books that came out before the Prequels aired. it's just an indication of how sensiticve you are to the force. It didn't mean that he was going to be kick-ass if he didn't train. But yes, they tossed the medichlorian count in there for the hard core book nerds

I personally simply thought that it was bad in COMPARRISON to the original. THe acting and settings, they seemed so horribly bland due to the green screen effect.

 

[Woodsey]

1 word, Midichlorians.

They raped the entire lore ffs. The force has been and always will be a mystic force no one really understands. An entity.

Had they just changed the explenation of midichlorians into "These micro-organisms are sensitive to the force, thus a person who has more of these symbiots will be more sensitive to the force,

Midichlorians =/= the force. They're exactly what you said there; an indication of force potential.

 

[Albino Boo]

Biggest problem is that we knew what was going happen and thus no tension.

 

[dragonslayer32]

Bad acting, the introduction of those stupid gene things and of course, JARJAR.

Actually medichlorians have been used in alot of the books that came out before the Prequels aired. it's just an indication of how sensiticve you are to the force. It didn't mean that he was going to be kick-ass if he didn't train. But yes, they tossed the medichlorian count in there for the hard core book nerds

I personally simply thought that it was bad in COMPARRISON to the original. THe acting and settings, they seemed so horribly bland due to the green screen effect.

Agreed, if I hadn't seen the origionals, those would have been ok movies. However, the standard had been set and they were far from it.

 

[Celtic_Kerr]

1 word, Midichlorians.

They raped the entire lore ffs. The force has been and always will be a mystic force no one really understands. An entity.

Had they just changed the explenation of midichlorians into "These micro-organisms are sensitive to the force, thus a person who has more of these symbiots will be more sensitive to the force, and even easier to corrupt by the dark side" or something. George Lucas's Midichlorians = retardation and lore-breaking.

Why its lorebreaking? Well take the Valley of the Jedi for example, why is it glowing if its just micro-organisms and not some mystic power? Shouldnt it be a puddle of goo instead? Someone should shoot Lucas and let someone with a little more brains take over, he aint fit to continue his own creations anymore.

Also, he wasn't more susceptible to the darkside because of midichlorians, it was due to his age. The Jedi always thried to rule with logic and reason. The Sith gave into their emotions and acted on impulse. It's very much like the ID, EGO, and SuperEGO. The ID are the principals of the Sith, the EGO are the Jedi, and the Super EGO is the individual agent and how they act.

But the reason Anakin was so easily turned to the darkside is because the Jedi were unable to wipe his emotions at an early state. The Jedi tend to train in terms of logic and nothing else, so they train from a very young age to make sure "Their emotions don't rule them". Anakin was already too old to erase and supress that. Giving into your emotions and impulses are "Signs of the dark side"

That was one of the main flaws of the Jedi: no emotion. They were very supressive and controlling. If they allowed the Padawans to feel, but be guided another way, then they would not need to worry about emotions being ruled under the Sith. Luke Skywalker corrected these in the books after Episode VI

 

[Bill_Stanbrook]

I've only seen episode one of the prequels, so I can only comment on that (I saw the first three movies at the cinema when they came out).

Jar Jar Binks; the big boss of Jar Jar Binks's people and his ridiculous propensity for waggling his cheeks when talking; driving a submarine through the center of the planet, which is apparently filled with water; "there's always a bigger fish" and similar corny dialog; young Anakin Skywalker and the crappy acting of the kid who played him; the flying alien who owned the junkyard; the silly idea of having a little kid compete in a pod car race; the purple balls of energy thrown around in the final battle; and, of course the dumbest idea anyones ever come up in a movie series with a heavy base of mysticism - midi-chlorians!

But other than that, I quite liked it.

 

[Xiorell]

I'm kinda with OP

I saw originals first etc, and the new 3 are NOT as good no... but apart from the Midichlorians things which WAS gay, I didn't think they was bad.

 

[The Bandit]

I've only seen episode one of the prequels, so I can only comment on that (I saw the first three movies at the cinema when they came out).

Jar Jar Binks; the big boss of Jar Jar Binks's people and his ridiculous propensity for waggling his cheeks when talking; driving a submarine through the center of the planet, which is apparently filled with water; "there's always a bigger fish" and similar corny dialog; young Anakin Skywalker and the crappy acting of the kid who played him; the flying alien who owned the junkyard; the silly idea of having a little kid compete in a pod car race; the purple balls of energy thrown around in the final battle; and, of course the dumbest idea anyones ever come up in a movie series with a heavy base of mysticism - midi-chlorians!

But other than that, I quite liked it.

In other words, the lightsaber fight was cool.

 

[V TheSystem V]

They brought in politics, the scripts were nowhere near as good as the originals, everyone knew what was going to happen, the acting from Hayden Christensen, who was SUPPOSED to turn into one of the most feared movie villains ever, was wooden and unconvincing. Also, the romantic subplot of Attack of the Clones made the film horrible for me among a lot of people. Yes, we know Anakin and Padme are going to get together, just don't make it so CHEESY!

 

[Timmaaaah]

Bad acting, the introduction of those stupid gene things and of course, JARJAR.

I hated the midi chlorian idea. Jedis are supposed to be spiritual people, a bit like the matrix, free your mind, anything is possible. Now, they are saying that only a select few can be jedis and it is either you have it, or you don't. Although all of this is my personal opinion, I haded JarJar and I think the actors are shitty. The only good actors were leam neeson and ewan mcgreggor (I really don't think I have spelled those right)

Fair enough they were the only good ones. Frank Oz is a good voice actor and whatnot but his script ruined it... and Temuera Morrison is cool, but I don't think he did Fett justice.

 

[imnot]

I was meh, II was pretty good, and III was awsome so i thought, IV was good, V was also good, VI was awsome.

 

[Kenko]

1 word, Midichlorians.

They raped the entire lore ffs. The force has been and always will be a mystic force no one really understands. An entity.

Had they just changed the explenation of midichlorians into "These micro-organisms are sensitive to the force, thus a person who has more of these symbiots will be more sensitive to the force,

Well they shouldve been more clear about it in the movies then. *Mutters* Cuz it sorta sounded like that those organisms were the force by the way he said it.

Midichlorians =/= the force. They're exactly what you said there; an indication of force potential.

For some reason my post wasnt posted, just the quote. Hmm, well what I said in reply was basicly "They should've been more clear with what they were as Pokemon Gin made it sound like the midichlorians WERE the force rather then what you just said.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

I liked them too, they were good, no way better than the originals, but they had their moments. With the Gungan battle in the first one I just imagined the "Benny Hill" theme music playing over it. Trying to have Jar Jar as comic relief was done horribly. The Darth Maul fight was the best climatic fight scene (you just cant beat Ray Park's awesome weapon skills). The lightsabre effects seemed flat and dull. The Yoda vs Emperor fight was weak and nowhere near as good as it could have been (the two most powerful force users currently alive at that time going at it, should have felt somehow a little more flashier).

The whole Vader "Noooo!" scene was full of Narm. Kinda kills him as a badass for the original 3.

That 7 part Phantom Menace review is cool to watch, will take about an hour but its worth it.

 

[Lazy Kitty]

I have no idea, I like them.

For some reason people don't seem to like Jar Jar Binks, podraces and the child who was destined to become the Badass we all know as Darth Vader.

Oh and there were midichlorians...
I didn't pay too much attention to those...