Why are Star Wars episodes I-III deemed so bad?

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zahr

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Nostalgia goggles for IV-VI.

I didn't watch ANY Star Wars movies until Episode II came out, then watched them in order. Though I did play some Star Wars games prior to that.

Anyways, I like I-III far better than IV-VI. I mainly hated IV-VI due to the actors.

This image, downs.jpg, sums up my feelings on IV-VI.

 

2xDouble

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As so many have said before, the prequel movies were not "bad" per se. They were bad as Star Wars. Just like Lucas's other recent bastardization of Indianna Jones, the movie isn't "bad", but it's not Indianna Jones.
there's a song that summarizes The Phantom Menace perfectly, which is sad because there isn't anything more to the movie than these 5 minutes of dialogue:EDIT: before all the fanboys get all hot and bothered, yes, there are other songs summarizing other Star Wars movies, but the point I'm making is those summaries aren't the entire movie.
 

absoul11

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Personaly I enjoyed the prequal trilogy. My guess is that fanboys of Star Wars were just bitching . Granted I-III isn't as good as IV-VI .BTW I saw the prequals before the originals.
 

Lawyer105

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For me, 1-3 is similar to Matrix 2-3. Less story, less 'brain', but still a pretty good mindless action movie to stare at after 3 beers.
 

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they were bad movies. poorly acted, horribly written, and nothing really made any fucking sense. watch the redlettermedia reviews on youtube for a much more indepth reason as to why.

And not to be mean or anything, but I am REALLY not surprised that everyone who says they liked the prequels seems to be pretty young, just blindly labeling everyone who likes the originals better as "Fanboys".

And yes, the books brought up midichlorians before the prequels. I still fail to see how this makes them any less of a stupid idea, answering a "question" that nobody wanted answered to begin with.
 

Jake the Snake

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For me it was the acting and the dialogue. The script was very poorly written and they should've gotten someone better than Christianson to play Anakin.
 

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Grey_Focks said:
they were bad movies. poorly acted, horribly written, and nothing really made any fucking sense. watch the redlettermedia reviews on youtube for a much more indepth reason as to why.

And not to be mean or anything, but I am REALLY not surprised that everyone who says they liked the prequels seems to be pretty young, just blindly labeling everyone who likes the originals better as "Fanboys".

And yes, the books brought up midichlorians before the prequels. I still fail to see how this makes them any less of a stupid idea, answering a "question" that nobody wanted answered to begin with.
i was going to type somethin but this saved me time.

nm that lucas sold his soul years ago being the leader in marketing crap to kids and got progressively worse from a new hope to return of the jedi never mind the amount of garbage marketed for parents to buy their kids with 1 thru 3.

redletters detailing of lucas's surrounding himself with yes men, and noone ever dares questions him, the fact that the plots were so bad as to be utterly laughable, yes the acting was horrible but the dialogue was even worse in many cases, i mean not even the best actor in the world could have made anniken belevable, and a beautiful princess falling for a guy that has a history of killing women and children and has emo cheesy lines in bags full.

everything points to todays george lucas being so far out of touch with reality and real people and that renegade filmmaker that made epi 4 and 5 was already dying by episode 6, that he should have just told someone else to write the movies because he has no grasp of anything anymore.

and if anyone thinks epi 1 and 2 are better than 4 and 6 or that 1 thru 3 was superior in any way to 4 thu 6 seek professional help and medications because you are totally and completely psychotic.
 

awsome117

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Sorry to reply to this late, was at work but just wanted to add my "two cents"

I won't write a long speech, as I don't care what you have to say, and you probably don't care what I have to say so I'll keep it short.

I love star wars. I loved the originals more than the prequels. But I still enjoyed the prequels. Many because I was in the target audience (pre-teen). He catered to his target audience and people are mad? Why?

Anyway, I don't feel like arguing over it, all I'll say is I enjoyed the prequels (still do) regardless of what people or critics say about them.
 

Varanfan9

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Its because too many hard core fan boys got all uppity over the smallest things and could not handle it. Honestly there not terrible. Heck Phantom Menace is my second favorite right behind Empire Strikes back. It had such a good star warsy theme to it for me.
 

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kman123 said:
I dunno, midicholorians or whatever they're called?

I didn't hate the prequels. I enjoyed them, a bit. Number one still has that mad fight scene with Darth Maul.
Yeah thats Ray Park that played Darth Maul. He directed that fight scene himself! he's a badass and they should have let him direct the lightsaber fights for episode II and III
 

evilartist

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Jesus, another one of these threads? There are already countless articles and video reviews about this trilogy that can sum up the majority of everyone's feelings here. There's no excuse for you not to do a web search.
 

dashiz94

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It all comes down to preference. A big issue is that fans of the original Star Wars enjoyed the focus more on the story and less on the action, partly because special effects weren't as grandiose as now. I personally don't hate the whole mitichlorian fiasco (mainly because Liam Neeson explained it) but the reason the prequels were so bad (mainly the last two) was a result of weak acting, a far less developed story, weak charactersn (FUCKING JAR JAR), and an overall dumbing down for the masses.
 

Gildan Bladeborn

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... What. No seriously, why does this exist? There's an intuitively obvious reason they were deemed so bad.

[HEADING=1]They are terrible films.[/HEADING]​

The only people who would even ask this question are those with objectively terrible taste in films and small children... *checks to see how old the OP was when they saw it* ah, okay - I suppose that makes sense then.

The original trilogy was hardly an example of high art and masterful writing, but the villains were at least convincing, the actors were and thus portrayed something other than blocks of wood we couldn't relate to, and the narrative was both easy to grasp as well as interesting. The prequels treated us to shoddy performances, flagrant and frankly quite offensive stereotypes courtesy of the Trade Federation (seriously, what the hell was Lucas thinking?!), annoying characters added at the behest of small children (anyone with any sense knows why that's a bad idea), and contrived and not particularly interesting plots that were also confusing enough that I had to explain what had just happened to my parents after we saw Episode 1.

Imagine having to sit down and explain A New Hope to someone who had literally just watched it with you. The mind boggles.

The dialog though... oh man, all the people who slag off the first two prequels but try to sell you on how the third one was so much better, those people are utterly dead wrong. You have no idea how painfully bad the writing in that film is until you've heard the dialog, in a loop, for 8 hours at a stretch over the course of weeks. Divorced of any of the special effects that aren't actually special anymore because they're in literally every shot, and stripped of any lingering residual cool that watching people who are not the actors dance around in saber duels might bring you, the sheer mind-numbing terriblosity of the dialog really starts to unshine. It's not even that they all deliver their lines with the emotionality of Keanu Reeves at the top of his form, it's that the things they're saying are also really stupid.

All three of those films honestly feel like somebody was making a Star Wars parody, or perhaps represent the concentrated efforts of Lucas to make everyone who used to like Star Wars turn around and hate it - the alternative (to a conscious effort to alienate his fanbase) is that Lucas is either genuinely crazy or never understood why anyone enjoyed Star Wars in the first place. Either way, there's simply no excuse for those cinematic abortions - they're bad movies by any metric to be certain, but at their core there was so much potential. I mean, lightsabers! Jedi! Space! There's no way somebody couldn't have made a good film out of those things - it just obviously wasn't going to be Lucas, not after his return to the director's chair produced The Phantom Menace. That's what makes the prequel trilogy so painful - they absolutely could have been good films, and probably would be had Lucas not insisted on directing them all himself (seriously, he hadn't directed anything for longer than most people on these forums have actually been alive). It says a lot that, out of the original trilogy, the one widely considered by Star Wars fans to be the best was the one Lucas had the least control over (he didn't direct Empire or Jedi, but the director of Empire didn't let Lucas tell him what to do - that's how we get things like Ewoks).

Don't even get me started on midichlorians.
 

Funkiest Monkey

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I hate Hayden Christiansen(sp?).

The first episode is probably my most disliked of the saga. Jar Jar (and most of the Gungan race) is extremely annoying, and the midichlorians thing was stupid as hell. I also found Darth Maul to be a damp squib of a villain. [small]Liam Neeson did a good job, however.[/small]
 

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i liked jar jar. star wars always had comic relief. jar jar has become a scapegoat...you don't hate R2-D2 and C3-PO for making jokes do you but Mr. Binks is satan. it's racist is what it is.
 

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I liked 1-3. Not as much as 4-6 though. That's why many die hard fans don't like it. They overlook the fact that it is still pretty good because they are so blinded by: "WHY WASN'T IT AS GOOD AS THE OTHER ONES." And Jar Jar, dear God Jar Jar ruined that movie. And I agree with the assessment that they used too many blue screens. So many of those scenes would have been a lot better if they were filmed on-site. There's your main reason why some of the acting was bad and some of the lines felt so unnatural and forced. Not very many actors can perform in front of only a blue screen and still be amazing.
 

Random Argument Man

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No, No Nooooo. You guys have it all wrong. The big problem with the Starwars prequel was the fact that they underplayed Samuel L. Jackson. In fact, this is how it should've been.



Serious answer: I've already been ninjaed to death.