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fenrizz said:
A few good reasons:

* It's cheaper and will usually last longer.
* You get to play in your sofa on a big TV.
* No need to worry about system requirements.
Simply put, exactly these reasons, added with fact that a console doesnt have to "boot up" like a PC, and a PC you have to sit upright on a computer chair 100% of the time. I have thought about setting up a PC on my lounge room tv so i can stream videos as well as surf the net and play games on my couch, but setting it up would be expensive and im trying to save for an overseas trip right now. So thats out of the question at the moment, at least until I get back in November and I can see where my finances lay.
 

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I mainly play Japanese games, those usually don't come out on the PC actually.


Sure, if all you play is FPS and Wrpgs then your question makes sense, I however mainly play Jrpgs and Fighting games, thus PC is pretty much a dead thing regarding my games.
So far one of the only valid reaons for console gaming in this thread.
 

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Easy, so the kids have something to play in the living room while I'm playing in the bedroom.

Edit: Playing games on the computer in the bedroom. Get your mind out of the gutter...
 

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JET1971 said:
this is not flaming.

consoles dont realy have ANYTHING that makes them better than PC. everything you can do on a console you can do with a PC. onsole fanboys claim.
Ummm... there's one pretty major thing you can do on consoles that you can't do on PCs that you seem to be overlooking (though it's been mentioned in this thread MANY times): play games that are exclusive to the console. There are quite a few of them (and sorry, they're not just for the "kids"). It's kind of hard to take your post as not flaming when you don't pay attention to the one aspect that is important to gaming, that being the games.
 

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Because the PC is extremely fiddley and inaccessible for those gamers who don't possess the technical skills to use it. I find it quite annoying when I buy a game for PC and it tells me that the something-or-other didn't configure properly or that the set-up failed to initialize or that it just feels like being a dick and not working. When I put a game into a console, it installs, and then works. No trouble, no talking to tech support or troubleshooting the increasingly ridiculous issues. Hardcore PC gamers tell me that all of the problems with PC games I've encountered are easily fixable, which is more or less irrelevant. The very fact that they occurred at all makes the PC less appealing considering that consoles provide a platform on which I can play games, and not have to troubleshoot; I can just sit down and play.
Have you gamed on this console generation, I've had more trouble getting my consoles games to work correctly out of the box than I do PC games. Hell don't get me started on the shoddy PS3 ports.

What the hell were you doing?
How could "insert cd, commence gaming" be any simpler?
To bad games this generation aren't like that the PS3 you still have to install most games for good performance leading to install problems and buys, other games just don't work right out of the box at all and with no way to trouble shoot you are stuck with waiting for the dev to release a patch. This console generation is far from stick in tray and play anymore.
Fine:

Insert CD
Install game
Run game
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Go to forums
***** about bugs and shit.
And the one were the MP sections is broken and just doesn't work, or just half assed ports that run at 10FPS. Face it when they tried to make this generation more like PC they forgot the good stuff and got all the bad.
When you put it that way, I can`t argue with that logic. If this forum had a rep feature, I`d +1 you.
+1 as well. thats the best cross platform complaints agreement we all have.

I truly do look forward to the next gen of consoles and hope porting gets better where each system is pretty much the same. console players against PC players in the same game on the same servers. sadly that wont happen because MS and Sony wont allow it. heaven forbid a PS4 player plays against a PC player and a XBOX 420 (or whatever the next one will be named) in BFBC5 or CODMW8, then they all go play Assasins Creed: Backstabber when the same ole same ole FPS gets old.
 

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sorry, no theres PC exclusive titles as well. that is called balance.
StriderShinryu said:
JET1971 said:
this is not flaming.

consoles dont realy have ANYTHING that makes them better than PC. everything you can do on a console you can do with a PC. onsole fanboys claim.
Ummm... there's one pretty major thing you can do on consoles that you can't do on PCs that you seem to be overlooking (though it's been mentioned in this thread MANY times): play games that are exclusive to the console. There are quite a few of them (and sorry, they're not just for the "kids"). It's kind of hard to take your post as not flaming when you don't pay attention to the one aspect that is important to gaming, that being the games.
sorry, no theres PC exclusive titles as well. that is called balance. it is not overlooked, just not worth mentioning because its an equality. both are gaming platforms so mentioning gaming is kinda redundant wouldnt you say? each console and PC has its exclusives. yay exclusive titles!!!

personaly I believe exclusive titles are NOT GOOD for gaming regardless of PC/console. PC exclusive is because the games flat out wont run on current consoles. console exclusives are there to force people to buy that console to play that game.... as in forced on you by the manufacturer, and done to create fanboys.
 

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5. PC games are moving over to PS3 and 360, some exclusivly and others multiplat, no matter how you look at it, other than graphics, there isn't really a compelling reason to pick PC gaming over console gaming, not to mention the console exclusive games as well.
None of my favourite games (Europa Universalis, Hearts of Iron) have been released on a console, my favourite genres (RTS and Grand Strategy) would be nigh-unplayable without a mouse and keyboard setup, and my favourite developer (Paradox Interactive) makes games exclusively for the PC. Since I "look at it" this way, I'd say there's a very compelling reason.

I've had an Xbox with a decent number of games for about 8 years now, and I'd say I've spent less time playing on it in all that time than I've spent on EU 3 in 2011.
Well that's great news for you, being a PC gamer and all, but for example myself and possibly others, amny of the games I've come to love and developers I've always adored are now making games for the consoles. The games I always thought made PC the shit, like Half Life, Diablo 2, Command and Conquerer, Sims, Fallout and others are all now available in some way or form on the consoles, Diablo being the exception....for the time being, Blizzard is already considering it for Diablo 3, a feat that will make my life much easier and save me the trouble of having to check to ensure my PC is capable of running it.

Ideally I'd like the PC to have more games as I especially prefer the controls for the likes of RPGs and such, but when playing Dragon Age on the PS3 after the PC, it didn't feel half bad, something I could definitely get used to and if it really bothered me that much, bluetooth keyboards and mouse are cheap for PS3 these days.

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1. Maybe so, but it still leaves me with the dilemma of having to buy or update my rig to handle the new games. This isn't always easy when developers insist on pushing boundaries in terms of graphics and innovative ways of gaming. For example, capable or not, my PC would not be able to give me the experience Wii games for example provide, simply because games on PC don't include that function, petty though it may be. As for the question of whether I have the rig to handle top end games or not, I don't, and other then gaming enthusiasts, you'll find too that most people don't. Now if you do, that's superb, game ahoy, but if you don't, you are left with the option of buying a new rig, upgrading the one you have or buying a far cheaper in comparison console. Yeah it may have a shorter lifespan, but it's not as if that matters once you get a few great gaming years out of it.

2. Check further down, I did point this out, my brother uses a PS3 controller on his PC, but even then, you still need to change the settings for each game so that the controls are fluent, this may be pretty trivial, but it can get quite annoying if you keep changing games, some software makes it a little easier by preseting by default for certain games, but when you think about it, I'd rather not have to worry about all that and just play games with my controller instantly on my console, rumble, motion and whatever else the controller is originally capable of.

3. I don't expect consoles to multitask, I just want it to play games, without installations, without activation codes and having to sign up with each game's developer to play online. I'll admit that pesky little installations to rear their ugly little head from time to time on console, but this isn't too often, I'll also admit that loading times are often shortest on PC, but again, this isn't too much of a concern once I'm playing the games I want to play and the loading isn't ridiculous.

4. Well, I can't speak for Live, I sold my 360, but in PS3 and Wiis case, I'm okay, I'm gaming for free.

5. Mentioned this point, modders is one of the prime reasons beyond graphics I would bother picking PC gaming over consoles, but for the typical gamer, casual or hardcore, I wouldn't say it was a major playing factor unless you honestly care that much for the extension of games. Its rare that you even get to use these bonus additions to the game online anyway, so it only extends your single player experience. I suppose it would have kept me playing Fallout 3 longer, but then would I want to play Fallout 3 longer than I did? I moved from that to play Just Cause 2 and GT5, and I must say, Just Cause and GT5 were as fun (if not more) as anything I've seen modded for Fallout 3 plus added something new. Honestly though, I would like to see modding on the consoles, but it would clash with trophies and achievements, and I know that wouldn't be pleasing to trophy and achievement whores.

6. You are speaking purely from a personal perspective though, if $400 got you the basic elements without the other bits, how much extra would it cost if you bought the rest to go with it? Secondly, I'm assuming you KNOW how to build a PC from scratch, what about people who don't or really can't be bothered. You can pick up a Wii for cheap for less than $400, WITH several games, controllers, nunchucks, classic controllers and still have spare cash left over. A PS3 and 360 may cost you a little more, but you can still find cheap ones and pick up several AAA titles to go with it. You don't NEED to have more than one controller and the consoles always sell with a controller included, the only time you need an extra controller is if you want more players, even then PC gaming is the same, how else are you to play your friends on one PC other than awkwardly use the same keyboard? (Which won't work for most games outside of minigames).

Like I said, other than PC gaming enthusiasts with tech knowledge, very few people will bother using a PC for high end games, especially casuals, when a console is far easier to buy and play right off the bat. Downgraded in graphics though games may be compared to PC, how often does that bother anyone, if that were really an issue, they wouldn't be selling so well.
 

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XxRyanxX said:
fenrizz said:
A few good reasons:

* It's cheaper and will usually last longer.
* You get to play in your sofa on a big TV.
* No need to worry about system requirements.
I cast my vote with this post. As in I agree with the User. I also would like to add that-

* Having a console ensures that you can buy more brand of games for it
* Like the Xbox 360, you can download games from online without moving from your seat (even though it costs Microsoft Points)
* The controller is always a nice way to play by- because you're use to the controls.
Not really, I think. I'm fairly sure PC has the same range of games as consoles, if not more. For example, RTSes aren't very big on consoles right now but otherwise, they share the same genre of games.
You don't really need to leave your seat when downloading games on a PC either. Sure, you might have a wait but no longer than waiting for a 360 game to download. (Random info, it took 3 hours for GTA IV to download to my 360.) Plus as far as I've seen you can do other stuff on both a PC and 360 while you wait for it to download in the background.
And you could say the same about a PC, once you've gotten used to the mouse + keyboard layout. This post seems a little misinformed.

OT: I personally find consoles tend to be cheaper with easier to play games, due to the lack of system requirements. Plus same screen split screen is pretty fun too. To be honest though, those are the only reasons I can find at the moment at 3am so I'll come back tomorrow if I think of more.
 

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Why this question was even dared to be asked, I do not know. IMHO there are three reasons for getting a console:
1. The 'average joe' finds consoles easier to use than PCs
2. Preference
3. Windows (Doesn't really count because Mac and Linux exist, but I've always found programs run better on Windows, and I hate windows)

Now, to dispel a couple of Myths, and clear a few things out:

1. Cost. A PC is not necessarily more expensive than a console, and you don't have to upgrade every 6 months or w/e to stay up to date. When the PS3 and Xbox came out, I decided not to get them because they were too expensive compared with an upgrade for my PC, at least for how much each would get used. I had had my PC for around 7 years then, and had only just started using it for gaming. For under $1000 I built my own top-of-the-line PC and have not upgraded it since. It still runs all new releases on high settings (Not ultra anymore, I need a new CPU). This just comes down to preference, and your 'average joe' finding it easier to use a console.

2. TV Capability. A TV can be used for both consoles and PCs, and is only slightly harder to do properly for a PC. I usually just plug my Laptop in with a HDMI cable and everything works fine, but for a more permanent setup, more work would need to be done, yes. This also goes for having to sit in a chair all day. This is more the fact that the 'average joe' finds it easier to plug in a console.

3. Portability. A console is easily portable. Laptops are too. In fact, I'd almost say laptops are more easily moved around than consoles (Excluding hand-held devices) as I only have to put a power cable and my laptop into a bag, as opposed to a console, all the cables, the controllers ect. and my laptop is only slightly less powerful than my pc. This in all reality just comes done to preference.

4. System requirements. Yes, if your PC is old you do have to look at system requirements. For me, even with my old PC I just pick up a title and play. I know my PC can run it because I built a quality PC all those years ago, and have little need to look at system requirements. A few years from now, my PC will still be able to play new games, even if it is on lowest settings. I place this down to preference.

5. Console Exclusives. They exist, yes, but so do 'PC exclusives'. I count exclusives as games from one platform that either:
a) Have not been ported to the other platform
b) Have a port that really should not have been made
There are also some game styles (Mostly RTS and TBS) that I count as 'PC exclusive' because the game style just would not work on a console. A matter of preference as to which platforms 'exclusives' you'd rather play.

6. Controllers. Some find them easier to use, some find them harder. It is a matter of preference. I would say that PCs are easier to use overall due to the fact that when PC gamers were pitted against console players in and experiment by Microsoft (I may be wrong about the company), PC gamers dominated the matches. Still a matter of preference as to which one you have learned.

7. Local Area Play. Console gamers saying you have this exclusively, ever heard of LAN? or Regional versions of games? (Starcraft 2 comes to mind here). Both have Local Area Play in some form or other. Which one you prefer is a matter of preference.

8. Hackers. PCs do have more hackers, but only in certain games, not to mention consoles have hackers too (There is someone at my school who got themselves banned from XBL for hacking). Comes down more to preference of games and likelihood of that game having hackers (If it has a strong anti-hack policy, chances are there won't be a lot).

9. More Social Gaming. I in no way see how consoles have 'more social gaming'. All my friends play PCs, and I generally find the PC gaming community to be more mature than the console gaming community. As for playing with family:
a) LAN
b) My family would rather watch TV than play games, greatly cutting down on the amount of time I have to play consoles, and completely eliminating 'playing with family
Once again, this just comes down to preference.

10. Technical Issues. Yes, PCs have technical issues, so do consoles. Ever heard of the red ring of death? Both are easy enough to fix if you are experienced with the platform that the problem is occurring on. Matter of preference, and the 'average joe' knowing more about consoles.

There aren't that many reasons to Pick PC gaming over console gaming either. Here are the ones I can think of:
1. Better Specs
2. Preference

Thats it. In all reality, there is very little reason to get one over the other. Consoles are generally more for the 'Average Joe' casual gamer, whilst PCs are generally more 'Hardcore' gaming platforms. Both can be easily used and learnt by the other's users, and both have the same amount of arguments to use them. Both have strong 'fanbases', and both have been dragged into this great flame war that it seems will never end.
 

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Joccaren said:
Why this question was even dared to be asked, I do not know. IMHO there are three reasons for getting a console:
1. The 'average joe' finds consoles easier to use than PCs
2. Preference
3. Windows (Doesn't really count because Mac and Linux exist, but I've always found programs run better on Windows, and I hate windows)

Now, to dispel a couple of Myths, and clear a few things out:

1. Cost. A PC is not necessarily more expensive than a console, and you don't have to upgrade every 6 months or w/e to stay up to date. When the PS3 and Xbox came out, I decided not to get them because they were too expensive compared with an upgrade for my PC, at least for how much each would get used. I had had my PC for around 7 years then, and had only just started using it for gaming. For under $1000 I built my own top-of-the-line PC and have not upgraded it since. It still runs all new releases on high settings (Not ultra anymore, I need a new CPU). This just comes down to preference, and your 'average joe' finding it easier to use a console.

2. TV Capability. A TV can be used for both consoles and PCs, and is only slightly harder to do properly for a PC. I usually just plug my Laptop in with a HDMI cable and everything works fine, but for a more permanent setup, more work would need to be done, yes. This also goes for having to sit in a chair all day. This is more the fact that the 'average joe' finds it easier to plug in a console.

3. Portability. A console is easily portable. Laptops are too. In fact, I'd almost say laptops are more easily moved around than consoles (Excluding hand-held devices) as I only have to put a power cable and my laptop into a bag, as opposed to a console, all the cables, the controllers ect. and my laptop is only slightly less powerful than my pc. This in all reality just comes done to preference.

4. System requirements. Yes, if your PC is old you do have to look at system requirements. For me, even with my old PC I just pick up a title and play. I know my PC can run it because I built a quality PC all those years ago, and have little need to look at system requirements. A few years from now, my PC will still be able to play new games, even if it is on lowest settings. I place this down to preference.

5. Console Exclusives. They exist, yes, but so do 'PC exclusives'. I count exclusives as games from one platform that either:
a) Have not been ported to the other platform
b) Have a port that really should not have been made
There are also some game styles (Mostly RTS and TBS) that I count as 'PC exclusive' because the game style just would not work on a console. A matter of preference as to which platforms 'exclusives' you'd rather play.

6. Controllers. Some find them easier to use, some find them harder. It is a matter of preference. I would say that PCs are easier to use overall due to the fact that when PC gamers were pitted against console players in and experiment by Microsoft (I may be wrong about the company), PC gamers dominated the matches. Still a matter of preference as to which one you have learned.

7. Local Area Play. Console gamers saying you have this exclusively, ever heard of LAN? or Regional versions of games? (Starcraft 2 comes to mind here). Both have Local Area Play in some form or other. Which one you prefer is a matter of preference.

8. Hackers. PCs do have more hackers, but only in certain games, not to mention consoles have hackers too (There is someone at my school who got themselves banned from XBL for hacking). Comes down more to preference of games and likelihood of that game having hackers (If it has a strong anti-hack policy, chances are there won't be a lot).

9. More Social Gaming. I in no way see how consoles have 'more social gaming'. All my friends play PCs, and I generally find the PC gaming community to be more mature than the console gaming community. As for playing with family:
a) LAN
b) My family would rather watch TV than play games, greatly cutting down on the amount of time I have to play consoles, and completely eliminating 'playing with family
Once again, this just comes down to preference.

10. Technical Issues. Yes, PCs have technical issues, so do consoles. Ever heard of the red ring of death? Both are easy enough to fix if you are experienced with the platform that the problem is occurring on. Matter of preference, and the 'average joe' knowing more about consoles.

There aren't that many reasons to Pick PC gaming over console gaming either. Here are the ones I can think of:
1. Better Specs
2. Preference

Thats it. In all reality, there is very little reason to get one over the other. Consoles are generally more for the 'Average Joe' casual gamer, whilst PCs are generally more 'Hardcore' gaming platforms. Both can be easily used and learnt by the other's users, and both have the same amount of arguments to use them. Both have strong 'fanbases', and both have been dragged into this great flame war that it seems will never end.
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well said and way better put than me. comes down to preferance.

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there fun so why not and there not as picky as computers are about if you can play a game or not just if you like it or not
 

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EcHoFiiVe said:
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I don't have to replace the whole thing as it age, etc...
Wat. Yes you do?
Only if you don't know anything about computers. It's childsplay to just replace the parts needing replacement.
Childs play for someone like you who has obviously used PCs for gaming since the invention of gaming. Someone like me definitely couldn't go out and buy and install a new graphics card. You might think "Oh, what a retarded console user." but that isn't fair, because I've never done it before. The most you ever have to do with a console is turn it on and download an update.
Building a computer is pretty much about snapping together parts now. It's not difficult. I built my first PC a month ago with no prior experience besides replacing a DVD drive and video card before.

Also, online guides. That is all.
 

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Building a computer is pretty much about snapping together parts now. It's not difficult. I built my first PC a month ago with no prior experience besides replacing a DVD drive and video card before.
If you've ever played with lego, can read a manual and know how to use a screwdriver, you've got all the skills you need to build a computer.
 

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I prefer to have a laptop for portability, and while I can play most games released thus far without fretting over specs (yet), laptops are not the best gaming PC. I just dont see myself investing in a desktop, and that is not purely based off of money, but other reasons. So I would keep a laptop or notebook PC for more work oriented tasks, and have a console for gaming.

But if I had the money, I would most certainly have a notebook for working, a desktop setup for PC gaming, and a console also.
 

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Some games are better on consoles. Also, CPU monitors will never be better than TVs. Consoles these days also have lots of built in things that are also better on TV (Netflix Instant Stream, for example). Some games are just better on consoles (like Third Person Shooters).
PC supports gamepad which automatically makes your 3rd person shooter point invalid and TV has color bleedout which can completely ruin the visuals.Seriously, TV better than a moniter?
Have you even seen the modern HD moniters?