Why do console gamers settle for so little?

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Man I dont know if people in this thread are trolling or they seriously dont have a clue.. rather funny anyway.
 

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slowpoke999 said:
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I have a good gaming PC and it was only $375.00.[/b]
Yeh but if that was just the computer it doesn't count,i could say i only spent $200 on a high end computer because I build it myself with the bare parts then bought thousands of dollars worth of graphics cards,processors, ram and other shit
It was everything that the computer had. The graphics card is what sent it up to $375.00. It was originally only $325.00. So yes, some good gaming PCs do not cost into the thousands. Good Ram, graphics cards, and processors do not cost up to the thousands.

I got a terabyte for $90.00 about a month ago.
 

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gof22 said:
slowpoke999 said:
gof22 said:
I have a good gaming PC and it was only $375.00.[/b]
Yeh but if that was just the computer it doesn't count,i could say i only spent $200 on a high end computer because I build it myself with the bare parts then bought thousands of dollars worth of graphics cards,processors, ram and other shit
It was everything that the computer had. The graphics card is what sent it up to $375.00. It was originally only $325.00. So yes, some good gaming PCs do not cost into the thousands. Good Ram, graphics cards, and processors do not cost up to the thousands.

I got a terabyte for $90.00 about a month ago.
So you're saying you can play Crysis with a processor that came with a $325 computer,was that from a computer store or from something like EBay,im just saying a house could be $10 if someone was willing to sell that much for it.
 

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If you aren't an FPS fanatic then none of that stuff matters. really the sheer variety of console only games is the overwhelming and obvious reason why ill never go back to pc gaming for anything besides classic 90's games. Ease of use is another reason but any good pc fanatic will argue to the death that pc gaming is just as simple(protip: it totally isn't ) ill stick with the gaming solution that developers aren't abandoning in droves due to piracy and unprogrammable hardware, thanks!
 

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I could return that.
As a PC gamer, how do you settle with constant necessity for upgrading and horrible performance drops whenever your PC feels like an arse.
 

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Journeythroughhell said:
I could return that.
As a PC gamer, how do you settle with constant necessity for upgrading and horrible performance drops whenever your PC feels like an arse.
I upgrade maybe every 2 years. Last time I upgraded was early 2007. I've run everything up to this point perfectly, ran Crysis on med-high settings and Modern Warfare 2, Wolverine. All work fine. You'e overblowing how often you have to upgrade.


ars_morendi said:
If you aren't an FPS fanatic then none of that stuff matters. really the sheer variety of console only games is the overwhelming and obvious reason why ill never go back to pc gaming for anything besides classic 90's games. Ease of use is another reason but any good pc fanatic will argue to the death that pc gaming is just as simple(protip: it totally isn't ) ill stick with the gaming solution that developers aren't abandoning in droves due to piracy and unprogrammable hardware, thanks!
I hate FPS's, they are my least favorite genre and I still play everything I can on PC. Here's an example of where the computer is better. Take Assassin's Creed I just finished AC2 on PS3, to sprint in both Assassin's Creed you hold R1 and X to sprint, in both games on PS3 this means you cannot move the camera(R3) at all while sprinting around. Now on PC, to do the same sprinting, you hold the Right Mouse Button and space bar. And you can use the mouse to adjust the camera as much as you like while you're running.

Mouse+Keyboard is much more fluid for pretty much all games. Whether it's aiming with a crosshair in FPS/3rd Person Shooters, or moving the camera in almost every other game.

Then take into account the customization of graphics, and the higher quality graphics available, and PC is just better across the board. Oh yeah and I can surf the net and enjoy forums and Itunes while I play.
 

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Zing89 said:
Journeythroughhell said:
I could return that.
As a PC gamer, how do you settle with constant necessity for upgrading and horrible performance drops whenever your PC feels like an arse.
I upgrade maybe every 2 years. Last time I upgraded was early 2007. I've run everything up to this point perfectly, ran Crysis on med-high settings and Modern Warfare 2, Wolverine. All work fine. You'e overblowing how often you have to upgrade.
Myabe I am but my laptop fucked me over with Modern Warfare 2.
Still, console gaming is easier to get into.
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So, with the Modern Warfare 2 thing showing that PC gamers are going to be screwed over by A-titles from now on, or at least A-titles from Activison and Infinity Ward (that aren't WoW), us PC gamers have had the 'delight' of seeing what console gaming is like.

So, I have to ask, REALLY? You're content with this? A maximum of 9 vs 9, having the host be switched around left, right, and centre, having lag ampified because of the P2P connections...?

I mean, XBox live customers, you PAY for this stuff, so why is it that your service is worse than what the PC gamer IS getting 90% of the time? Why aren't you demanding a better service for your cash? Hell, why aren't 32 vs 32 games an option on XBox? Thats standard on PC.

I don't ask this to be 'elitist' like every other person on this website seems to think we PC gamers are, I'm asking because you're being given a poor service that you seem content with, even though there is a cheap, reliable fix for it (dedicated servers).

I mean, YOU are the ones who get to determine how good the service is you're paying for. PC gamers can't manage it anymore because we've been marginalized. So why aren't you demanding a better service? Especially on XBox Live where Microsoft don't have an excuse for not having them - i.e. you are paying a subscription charge for online play, so why don't they let some of that cash fund servers so you don't have to rely on laggy p2p networks?
Being a connoisseur of PC Internet, Xbox Live, and Classic LAN gaming, (Not to mention the PS Network and whatever you call the ordeal that is wii online). I agree with you to a point. Yes, there are many games on Xbox live that steal from the true experience of online gaming, I have never liked modern warfare's online gaming, I'd rather play some old fashioned CS whenever I get the chance. And you'll never be able to duplicate the feeling that seeing the word ZZZZZZZEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!! in green across the bottom of your screen on a console. But the fact for me is, I just feel more at home with a console. Now and again I take my laptop to my friends' houses and we still rock out with an old school LAN party. But the wide-array of douche-baggery that plagues the internet (as hilarious as it is to watch) is just too constant and too annoying for me to want to deal with anymore. And playing on a console with real friends and internet ones, allows me to be a lot more selective and a lot more relaxed when I'm fighting the zombie horde, or cleaning up pandora. I don't feel the pressure of having to prove something to someone who might be the douche server admin. And for me playing on a console allows me to have worth against opponents without having to be a clan member or donate to some server where I post (x) amount of times a day so that people will recognize me when I'm fragging CTs. I just have a standing, and I play.

Wow, that response got out of hand.
 

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Another question could be why do PC gamers expect so much? *flameshield up*
Because we intend to repay the developers, doing so in form of making the game live longer through mods and new maps, thus increasing their income.
 

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case in point. valve. that studio would of gone under long ago if it didn't have such a supportive community base which kept continued intrest in their games to allow them their 'valve time'. no other company in the buisness can get away with a 2-3 year development process for a full game, we are running on over 2 years for an HL2:episode 3, a mear expansion...
 

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slowpoke999 said:
gof22 said:
slowpoke999 said:
gof22 said:
I have a good gaming PC and it was only $375.00.[/b]
Yeh but if that was just the computer it doesn't count,i could say i only spent $200 on a high end computer because I build it myself with the bare parts then bought thousands of dollars worth of graphics cards,processors, ram and other shit
It was everything that the computer had. The graphics card is what sent it up to $375.00. It was originally only $325.00. So yes, some good gaming PCs do not cost into the thousands. Good Ram, graphics cards, and processors do not cost up to the thousands.

I got a terabyte for $90.00 about a month ago.
So you're saying you can play Crysis with a processor that came with a $325 computer,was that from a computer store or from something like EBay,im just saying a house could be $10 if someone was willing to sell that much for it.
I wouldn't doubt it. Crysis doesn't demand much from processors... If I were to go out and buy the processor I'm using to play it right now, it'd probably cost me $30. It's a lot cheaper than you think. I won't deny that you'd probably have to buy used to get an adequate graphics card for $50. What model is it?

slowpoke999 said:
Yeh but if that was just the computer it doesn't count,i could say i only spent $200 on a high end computer because I build it myself with the bare parts then bought thousands of dollars worth of graphics cards,processors, ram and other shit
You need all that stuff for the computer to even work. It's not optional.
 

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CORRODED SIN said:
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so you'll refute every honest word of mine as just being an attempt to "troll?" pfft. such things are below me.

truth is, i don't really know how much it costs, but i know i can't afford it seeing as i've already purchased a 360 with XBL and i'm sixteen working part time.
if you dont know then why not GOOGLE? what makes it worse is that you exaggerate to the point of blasphemy. gaming PCs are 400-600$ items, not thousands of dollars.
Show me a real gaming PC for $400-600, and ill show you Yahtzee's Triple-Cunted Hooker.
https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=16561667
That rig supports DX11 and it'll smoke Crysis. Where's my hooker?
yah i cant see it, and im not taking the time to sign up for a newegg account. so, i still dont believe you.
Fine, if you want to be that way: http://privatepaste.com/052fcc9256
As you can see, It has a 2.6GHz quad core processor, 4GB RAM, a 500GB HDD, a DX11 5750 graphics card, and room for another all for $530. In other words, this system will kick ass for at least another three years. When you need to, you can just add another 5750 for a large performance boost to extend the PC's life.

Note that I said it will "kick ass" for three years. It will still play new games up until somewhere around 2016, when you'll have to put games on low. Oh no.
 

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slowpoke999 said:
gof22 said:
slowpoke999 said:
gof22 said:
I have a good gaming PC and it was only $375.00.[/b]
Yeh but if that was just the computer it doesn't count,i could say i only spent $200 on a high end computer because I build it myself with the bare parts then bought thousands of dollars worth of graphics cards,processors, ram and other shit
It was everything that the computer had. The graphics card is what sent it up to $375.00. It was originally only $325.00. So yes, some good gaming PCs do not cost into the thousands. Good Ram, graphics cards, and processors do not cost up to the thousands.

I got a terabyte for $90.00 about a month ago.
So you're saying you can play Crysis with a processor that came with a $325 computer,was that from a computer store or from something like EBay,im just saying a house could be $10 if someone was willing to sell that much for it.
It was from a place called the Izone. The place went out of business which is how I got my computer. But what they did there was for like $25.00 you could play any number of games they had on their PCs till 12:00 AM. They had a lot. Crysis was one of them as well was CoD4: Modern Warfare , WoW, Half Life, Half Life 2, and many RTS games. They had many games on their computers.

I liked the place, but I like my PC more.
 

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Because console gamers are easily distracted. Why should a developer waste time and money making dedicated servers for a console when in a few months they'll be playing some other game (if they're lucky to last even a month)?
 

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Nazulu said:
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I like having fun, and fun is what I get.

People are always talking about lag and dedicated servers and blah, blah, blah...I've never had a problem with my xbox live services and enjoy the games I have. As long as I can have fun, its all good
See, that is the perfect 'I don't understand people, I reckon they are just stupid and I only care about myself' statement. And as long as people don't give a fuck about other people, there will always be flame wars.

You should try and get an understanding why gamers are pissed instead of blowing it of.
1. "I don't understand people, I reckon they are just stupid and I only care about myself" I fail to see how you found this out from my post, as I was referencing my gaming experiences. I have not had lag, I do not know the difference between dedicated servers and what we have now (in MW2). I do not notice a difference because I have NEVER experienced lag on XBL and DO NOT notice a difference between these two servers so why would I comment on a subject I am ignorant in? The point I was trying to make, is that as long as I can still have fun with my games i don't mind the changes. I never talked about anyones intelligence or that I only care about myself.
You said "people are always talking lag and dedicated servers and blah, blah, blah" did you not. That means you don't know why people are complaining and don't have a flipping clue why people miss dedicated servers and blah blah blah!

So forget any issue and have fun, because completely missing the point why people are annoyed means you don't give a flying fuck. Yes, I believe you should educate yourself on the matter instead of just leaving a post that you have no idea what is going on.
I asked you before to respond polietely but you don't seem to care about that and continue to make accusations about me being ignorant, not caring about the community and simply being uneducated. Looking back on my previous posts, I still fail to see where you are getting this info about me, but lets see if I can clarify this;

"You said "people are always talking lag and dedicated servers and blah, blah, blah" did you not?" Yes I did say that

"That means you don't know why people are complaining and don't have a flipping clue why people miss dedicated servers" If you look back, you will see the reason for me saying that was because I see no difference between the servers. Therefore, I am getting tired of people complaining and would like us to move onto other issues, like solving the issues of lag people might be having or removing glitches, etc.

"So forget any issue and have fun, because completely missing the point why people are annoyed means you don't give a flying fuck." I never said anything about ignoring issues. I did say that I was enjoying what I have and I have no idea why that would be a problem.

"Yes, I believe you should educate yourself on the matter instead of just leaving a post that you have no idea what is going on." Yes, education is important but claiming I have no idea what is going on when all I did was state that I was enjoying my current experiences, does not make sense to me
 

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Resistance 2 is still very popular: 30 vs 30 on the PS3. Upgrading a PC is also much more expensive than buying an Console with everything built in already. Problems with viruses also don't afflict consoles as much.
 

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The amount of money console gamers spends on games in 3 years, outweighs the average PC gamers money spent. The average PC gamer doesn't buy a lot of games. We have piracy for that, and we generally stick with a main game with many games that come along as distractions. I play TF2, Quakelive, Quakeworld, and a bit of Counter Strike. That is probably over 80 percent of my online gaming of the past year, and in total i spent 30 bucks on the games and have thousands of hours of play in total. In PC games over the past 3 years, i have spent less that 200 dollars. Yes, i see why PC gaming is dieing, cause why upgrade what already makes us happy. Before i had a good income, i spent only a total of 500 bucks on computer parts. I could reuse half the things, i didnt have to buy a hard drive, case, cd/dvd drive, PSU or an OS. I had to buy a mobo, cpu, ram, and Graphics card, and that is it.

PC gaming is very cost effective, back in the PS2 days, had to have a new game every 1-2 months to keep me entertained. The amount of money you throw in the games for Consoles is amazingly high, and most games are not that good without that much longevity.

PC games do actually require you to be able to be competent and have general knowledge of computers to get working though. And explaining to someone how to flash a bios or go into the registry to fix their game is fucking annoying.