Why do gamers want to see Nintendo go multi-platform?

[Negatempest]

Now this has been in my brain for awhile and it just bugs me, a lot. Forget the the so called, "Underpowered" Wii-U or the Wii or other things that were unfavorable to the "Hardcore" gamer.

The reason this bugs me is that some gamers actually believe that if Nintendo was forced to go multi-platform that somehow the Nintendo IP's would get "better" graphics and would make a better game. To me this is just a fallacy. Have we learned nothing about how twisted IP's become in the hands of AAA developers and console makers like EA, Activision, Sony, or Microsoft? Do we forget so easily about Sonic 06's history? Do we forget of what has happened with Overstrike? The assumption that Nintendo's game quality would actually improve is just false in so many levels.

Sure Nintendo is milking many of their franchises, and I'm not gonna justify that action, but I cant think of more than an extremely small handful of developers that create non-puzzle platformers anymore. Or action/adventure games that focus more on the adventure than the action. Or arcade flight sims. The idea of Nintendo going bankrupt is scary for more than just the reason of seeing the lose of jobs. I also see nearly forgotten genres finally getting lost in a sea of super realistic and super serious and grim video games.

Edit: I got good amount of responses on why I don't want the underpowered argument of the Nintendo console. Simply because it would not be fair to the other consoles. But since it gets mentioned so much, well:

Nintendo related
-Dated hardware
-Questionable controllers
-Bad online Functions
-Lacks 3rd party support

Microsoft and Sony related
-Online Pass
-Exploitative DLC
-Micro-transactions
-Have called the customers loyal sheep.
-Got customers used to buggy games.

One makes gimmicky hardware, while the other nickle and dimes ya in a variety of ways.....they also don't trust the consumer. Yeah, I had a lot of deep thinking after seeing the Xbox One "features"

 

[Hades]

I suppose i can understand wy some people want it. Even if its not your cup of tea you can almost blindly rely on Nintendo games to be either really good or amongst the best games of the generation. Still, there are people that think a Nintendo console is ''beneath'' them so they don't own one and thus miss out.

 

[80sboy]

Hmmm...this is how I feel about the Wii U.

"Hey, where's Bioshock: Infinite on the Wii U? The game is multi-platform and on the 360, PC, and PS3. Why isn't it on the WiiU? And where's the new Tomb Raider which I wasn't a big fan of but still? Wait, will GTA 5 be coming out? No? Yup...not getting that system."

 

[Kae]

It's more that I would like to have all my games on the same platform than anything, you see I'm selfish and it would be more convenient for me that way, not really even about the bother of having to buy a new system, just about the convenience of having it all in one place.

 

[suntt123]

Because they're cheap and new consoles are expensive.
There is no improvement that can be made to Nintendo's games because they're on some other platform. Sadly, however it seems that 3rd party devs are under the impression that bringing their games to the Wii U will guarantee a flop or something.

This is false of course, the reason 3rd party titles failed on the wii were from faulty online and lower graphics. If someone has access to at least one other console they're going for the version of that game that works.

That's it though, in terms of the actual game part of the games the Wii's were more fun... Reminiscent of the PS2 era of gaming where HD didn't exist so devs tried to convey worlds that were you know... Colorful and imaginative... SIGH...
/opinion

Off Topic:
That's not to say that all HD games are dull and unimaginative; Dishonored, Bioshock, Farcry and a few others were actually very good...

I'm not saying that nintendo games are the jesus of gaming or anything. Just that, despite rehash after rehash, when you surround nintendo's games with most other games out right now they're actually more imaginative and colorful... Like if an indie dev had a AAA budget and kept pumping out the same game over and over with slight variations to showcase some weird peripheral. Even then that just makes it so their games don't end up FEELING exactly the same, even if their basic gameplay remains mostly unchanged. More than I can say for the likes of God of War or Halo.

But that's just my thoughts

OT:
Anyway, back on topic this means that they'd have to buy an additional console to play all the games they may wish to play. And since recent games were either too far into development to begin porting to the Wii U at the time not a lot of recent games have made it to Wii U hence the illusion of inferiority...

Honestly though, how HD can we make a console before it stops being worth a new console. I'm already pretty dubious of the jump from PS3-PS4 & XB360 - XB1, yet that's all Sony and MS seem to be able to come up with.

 

[Stavros Dimou]

Because as time passes by Nintendo consoles loose more and more third party franchises. Most people buy Nintendo consoles only to play Nintendo's own games. And that makes Nintendo's consoles being supplamentary. For a gamer who wants to play modern games, Nintendo's console can't be the only platform he will have. So that means he will have to buy 2 consoles, one only to play Nintendo's first party games,and one where he can play everything else.
But wouldn't it be better for that person to be able to play all the game it likes in one console ?
Without having to spend 600-800 euros / dollars ?
The sad thing appears to be that gamers consider more plausible that Nintendo will become a third party developer for other consoles instead of attracting third parties to its own console.
People have lost their faith in Third Party Suppport for Nintendo's consoles.

 

[Doom972]

It's not about graphics and I don't see what other publishers have to do with it.
The reasons I think Nintendo is better off making games for all platforms and not have their own console:

1) People mostly buy Nintendo consoles for the first party games, because third party games on Nintendo consoles are always lesser versions (due to lesser hardware) - unless these are games from previous generations. Making their first party games multiplatform seems to be beneficial to everyone involved.

2) If they released their mobile games and non-mobile older titles to smartphones and tablets, I bet they could make a much larger profit than with their 3DS. Many successful touchscreen device games are basically rip-offs of classic Nintendo games anyway.

 

[templar1138a]

Quality improvement? That's a joke, right? Nintendo should go multi-platform simply because 1. It would earn them more money and 2. Their console is bad and they should feel bad.

Captcha is an ad for Internet Explorer. It claims to be "Fast. Fluid. Perfect for touch." ... I am in a near-lethal giggle loop right now.

 

[2HF]

This is very simple. I'm not buying an entire console to play 1 game. Or even 2. I've missed out on every Zelda game since Windwaker because I was not buying a Wii just for Twilight Princess and Skyward sword. Just not doing it. I play dozens of games on my PS3 and I played dozens on my Xbox. Not buying a whole console for 2. I say again, not buying an entire console for 2 games. Not happening.

If you put Zelda on Xbox and PS then I'm buying a copy, along with millions of others. Simple as that.

 

[Dragonbums]

In my opinion it's just the largest form of Nintendo disdain.
People like Nintendo games, yet they aren't willing to support them for Nintendo games. Fine by them, but you sound selfish when you basically drool at the mouth at the prospect of having them go bankrupt just so you can play Mario on your PS3/Xbox 360 as opposed to playing it on their own hardware. Which in my opinion does it best.
Besides Nintendo said if they fail, they won't even go third party. They will just simply go on to doing something else.
After all, they used to be a card and toy manufacturer some 100 years ago. They won't just disappear.

CAPTCHA: Minced oaths

Not really CAPTCHA Nintendo seems to be pretty adamant about their promises.

 

[Dragonbums]

Hmmm...this is how I feel about the Wii U.

"Hey, where's Bioshock: Infinite on the Wii U? The game is multi-platform and on the 360, PC, and PS3. Why isn't it on the WiiU? And where's the new Tomb Raider which I wasn't a big fan of but still? Wait, will GTA 5 be coming out? No? Yup...not getting that system."

Because devs like to make up 1 million excuses as to why the WiiU is hard to make games for, yet some of those same devs have no issue putting something on a tablet.
Also, no, they don't have to make games utilizing the WiiU tablet. They could use the pro controller if they so wish.

 

[MrHide-Patten]

Because I don't want to buy a Wii-U to play the one game I might like. But so far it doesn't even look like the Wii-U has that so yeah, no fucks given.

Personally I hope the underpowered touch pad gimmick bites them in the butt, if only to get them into making a game I want to buy. They wanted to entice third party developer's but it's the underpowered Wii all over again.

Props to ya if Nintendo floats your boat, but frankly after not touching my Wii for almost 4 years now, Nintendo BORED holes into the bottom of mine.

 

[PoolCleaningRobot]

I don't want Nintendo to go multiplatform, I want the opposite: I want multiplatform games to come to Nintendo. They did with the Gamecube and the Gamecube was a glorious machine. Just wish I didn't have to choose between Metroid and Fallout and other AAA's. Its as simple as that

 

[Worgen]

Because my Nintendo stock would go through the roof. Really though, I would prefer them also making hardware since they are really the only console maker left who is really about the games. Both sony and ms seem to want to be huge multimedia devices.

 

[Mr.Mattress]

Being a part of the NINTENDO DEFENSE FORCE! I am now going to poke the logic in all of these arguements.

The Wii and WiiU are substandard gaming machines, and a number of people would like to see them just quit making shitty console hardware and focus on making games for the other platforms. Handhelds being the obvious exception.

Right, because, as we all know, the PS1 and PS2 were the hardware kings of the industry! ... Wait, what's that? The PS1 was substandard compared to the Nintendo 64, and the PS2 was substandard compared to the Gamecube and Xbox, and the only reason it did so well was because 3rd companies actually tried to make good games with what they had? You don't say...

Because as time passes by Nintendo consoles loose more and more third party franchises. Most people buy Nintendo consoles only to play Nintendo's own games. And that makes Nintendo's consoles being supplamentary. For a gamer who wants to play modern games, Nintendo's console can't be the only platform he will have. So that means he will have to buy 2 consoles, one only to play Nintendo's first party games,and one where he can play everything else.
But wouldn't it be better for that person to be able to play all the game it likes in one console ?
Without having to spend 600-800 euros / dollars ?
The sad thing appears to be that gamers consider more plausible that Nintendo will become a third party developer for other consoles instead of attracting third parties to its own console.
People have lost their faith in Third Party Suppport for Nintendo's consoles.

(Bolded) No, Third Parties have lost faith in Nintendo's consoles, because they make terrible, substandard games for them. This wasn't the case when the PS2 was king of the industry, oh no it was not. All of their games were worse compared to GameCube and Xbox titles, but did they abandon the PS2? Nope, they kept making them, and hoping they would sell. For some reason or another, they simply kept screwing over the Wii, and as a result, people stopped buying 3rd Party games on the Wii. Meanwhile, the third best selling game on the WiiU is a game made by a 3rd party that decided to put all of the love and attention on it they could, ZombiU. Also, the best third party, multi-platform game on the Wii is Guitar Hero 3, a game that is almost exactly the same as Guitar Hero 3 on the 360 or the PS3.

(Italicized) Two things wrong here, the first part is that that would create a monopoly, which was something Nintendo was constantly criticized for when there was only the NES. The Second thing is, there can never only be one of anything, ever. You honestly think that someone else won't come along and make a console when there is only the one console around? Sony and Microsoft wouldn't even be in the market if there was only one console ever (Which would have been a Nintendo Console). That's not how the Free market works.

Quality improvement? That's a joke, right? Nintendo should go multi-platform simply because 1. It would earn them more money and 2. Their console is bad and they should feel bad.

1) Did Sega going multi-platform improve their money standings? No, not really.

2) That's all opinionated, because they certainly aren't, say, Atari Jaguar or Sega 32X Bad. They are less powerful then the 360PS3 (Wii) and XBone/PS4 (WiiU), but they certainly aren't Bad.

Because my Nintendo stock would go through the roof.

Just this part right here, because I understand you don't want them to drop from the Hardware Market: Your stocks wouldn't rise, they would plumet because investors would see that Nintendo has put themselves so deep in a hole that they have to give up on hardware. The same thing happened with Sega.

 

[st0pnsw0p]

Because people want to play Nintendo's games but, for whatever reason, don't want to or can't afford to buy Nintendo's consoles, although the same arguments could be made for Microsoft and Sony. What you should be asking is why people want Nintendo to go multiplatform, but rarely, if ever, say they want Microsoft or Sony to do the same.

 

[Worgen]

Being a part of the NINTENDO DEFENSE FORCE! I am now going to poke the logic in all of these arguements.

The Wii and WiiU are substandard gaming machines, and a number of people would like to see them just quit making shitty console hardware and focus on making games for the other platforms. Handhelds being the obvious exception.

Right, because, as we all know, the PS1 and PS2 were the hardware kings of the industry! ... Wait, what's that? The PS1 was substandard compared to the Nintendo 64, and the PS2 was substandard compared to the Gamecube and Xbox, and the only reason it did so well was because 3rd companies actually tried to make good games with what they had? You don't say...

Because as time passes by Nintendo consoles loose more and more third party franchises. Most people buy Nintendo consoles only to play Nintendo's own games. And that makes Nintendo's consoles being supplamentary. For a gamer who wants to play modern games, Nintendo's console can't be the only platform he will have. So that means he will have to buy 2 consoles, one only to play Nintendo's first party games,and one where he can play everything else.
But wouldn't it be better for that person to be able to play all the game it likes in one console ?
Without having to spend 600-800 euros / dollars ?
The sad thing appears to be that gamers consider more plausible that Nintendo will become a third party developer for other consoles instead of attracting third parties to its own console.
People have lost their faith in Third Party Suppport for Nintendo's consoles.

(Bolded) No, Third Parties have lost faith in Nintendo's consoles, because they make terrible, substandard games for them. This wasn't the case when the PS2 was king of the industry, oh no it was not. All of their games were worse compared to GameCube and Xbox titles, but did they abandon the PS2? Nope, they kept making them, and hoping they would sell. For some reason or another, they simply kept screwing over the Wii, and as a result, people stopped buying 3rd Party games on the Wii. Meanwhile, the third best selling game on the WiiU is a game made by a 3rd party that decided to put all of the love and attention on it they could, ZombiU. Also, the best third party, multi-platform game on the Wii is Guitar Hero 3, a game that is almost exactly the same as Guitar Hero 3 on the 360 or the PS3.

(Italicized) Two things wrong here, the first part is that that would create a monopoly, which was something Nintendo was constantly criticized for when there was only the NES. The Second thing is, there can never only be one of anything, ever. You honestly think that someone else won't come along and make a console when there is only the one console around? Sony and Microsoft wouldn't even be in the market if there was only one console ever (Which would have been a Nintendo Console). That's not how the Free market works.

Quality improvement? That's a joke, right? Nintendo should go multi-platform simply because 1. It would earn them more money and 2. Their console is bad and they should feel bad.

1) Did Sega going multi-platform improve their money standings? No, not really.

2) That's all opinionated, because they certainly aren't, say, Atari Jaguar or Sega 32X Bad. They are less powerful then the 360PS3 (Wii) and XBone/PS4 (WiiU), but they certainly aren't Bad.

Because my Nintendo stock would go through the roof.

Just this part right here, because I understand you don't want them to drop from the Hardware Market: Your stocks wouldn't rise, they would plumet because investors would see that Nintendo has put themselves so deep in a hole that they have to give up on hardware. The same thing happened with Sega.

I disagree, Nintendo has some of the most valuable IPs around and I think the idea of them going multiplatform would bump the stock price to new heights.