Why do Jocks get away with it?

[Bender Rodriguez]

I can tell you one thing m8, this would NEVER happen in Norway without consequences.
I find it sick that principles would let such behavior go untreated.

 

[DanielDeFig]

this is a perfect example of a school with the following philosophy: "Bullying? no sir, such a thing doesn't exist in our fine establishment". Which leads to a refusal to accept that it exists, along with a refusal to talk about it.

A lot of schools have this problem, i even attended one where i was the victim of almost my entire class. But they weren't jocks (not all of them), instead thy employed a social and psychological shunning and refusal to recognize my existence. I'm not going to claim it's the same as being beaten half to death, but the problem of bullying is prlavent in many schools.

This is one of those times when i will take an example from my country of origin, even though i usually want nothing to do with it (lived in Sweden for a total of 7 years, in my 20 year life). In Sweden it is illegal to bully, in school or at work, and even at home. The school will inform the Police of bullying before it gets really bad (like what you experienced), and tactics have now changed so that the bullies are removed from the school (usually transferred to another school) instead of the victim. This is probably effective in stopping the bully completely, how likely is the ringleader of a bunch of bullies to continue his activities when he is sent alone to a new school?

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

I was just trying to get my point across of who's really at the top of the pecking order

Yeah, no I get that. still...

And we porky kids aren't all that different from you scrawny kids. Behind all the emaciation/blubber, we're peas in a pod........a pod that gets bludgeoned to death and back frequently... by carrots (representing jocks for some arbitrary reason). Yeah, fuck carrots.

And also, while I'm at it, I'm annoyed at this "all jocks are evil bastards" mentality. Playing sports does not make you a jerk.

Playing sports doesn't automatically make you a jock though. Your right, there are tons of great, nice people who play sports.
"Jocks" define a very specific archetype, methinks. Like, essentially, societies "prize pigs"; valued for their idealistic masculine perfection, but of no real Use or consequence to the society at large. At least that's my interpretation and I'd go ahead and guess that OP agrees with that?

 

[Wintermoot]

I got bullied by kids with "behaverioul problems" I go to special schools and the government sees it as the educational trash can (I,m now at a school that refuses students with behaverioul problems) the teacher sugar coated their behaviour and said I had to man up

 

[AdamRBi]

the quarterback then proceeded to pull the pad out from under me and I hit the hard-wood floor with a loud thud

everyone laughed

I then lost my temper and garroted the quarterback with the rope (wrapped it around his neck and pulled tight) yelling that he would never do that again

then things became very serious; the teacher yelled at the class to "get him off of him" and well yeah you can see where things went

in the end, I got expelled for hurting the quarterback
and when I showed the bruises, crutches, and scars and told them how I got them they said "it's one thing to harm the student body, it's another thing to make up stories to justify it"

Sounds bad, but to be fair while pulling the pad out from under you is dangerous and incredibly stupid of him... you did react by trying to choke him.

Make's his move look just dickish by comparison.

To answer your question though, it's because people value athletics over Arts and Science. It's like asking why people watch sports more then they do the Science Channel. (I'm an avid watcher, I just wish they didn't have dumbed down shows taking over) With all that money on the Athletic Team (instead of, you know, important stuff like Science and Culture) they don't really want to see them lose, or lose team members.

I never had this issue though, while I wasn't close to them I was friends (acquaintances?) with a couple of sport players. None of them ever fit the typical "Jock" stereotype. If anything some tried once or twice verbally but I ignored them and they quit.

 

[Lem0nade Inlay]

That sounds harsh man, I feel for you.

I've never been bullied before, luckily.

However sounds like things have sorted themselves out pretty well, good work for your determination. If I were you, when they pulled the mat out from under you, I would've lay there and pretended to be knocked out, or seriously hurt, just to freak everyone out, and not "regained consciousness" until I was in a nurses office or something. Then the jocks would've, hopefully, gotten in big trouble.

As for why they get away with it? Probably because kids who are talented at sports mean a lot to a school. I don't know what it's like in the USA, but in Australia many schools offer total scholarships for kids who are good at sports.

 

[Xannieros]

The point where if the teacher said it was boys being boys, and nothing happened. Thats when you go to the police.

 

[flim.geek.chic]

no one "get's away with it" Karma is a *****. Don't believe me just wait till your Highschool reunion.

 

[Merkavar]

from your story mr op i think you were with in your right to hurt the jock. pulling a mat out from under you could have seriously hurt you. if it was me i would have attacked him too and good work on usingthe rope to try to hurt him.

i used to get bullied alot in high school too. if you defend your self the bullying gets worse and normally resulted in detention or suspension for me and the bully which makes no sense.

i wasnt too sure what you meant by this

EDIT 3: I'm not like this anymore and this has been taken care of (got half the kids there to stop attending and shut down one of the two schools they had... which were right across the street from each other haha)

you got a whole school shut down?

anyway yeah im not a violent person and it takes alot to get me to react. Like one time this guy was whiping me with a wire, like 30 times before i beat him up, he then can at me and hit me with a very big stick like a 2 by 4. i think i got suspended for that.

and in primary school i moved to a new area so didnt know anyone. basically this one guy kept kicking me, i was walking away like a good little boy, like they always say to do. but he kepts kicking me and had like 20 other people with him. so i just got to a point where i had to fight back. i grabbed his shoulder and punched him over and over that his face/nose actually looked different after he heal and they had to close one of the toilets cause of all the blood on the floor.

i think the whole boys being boys thing can only work if its even numbers in the fight or that the fighting is working both ways as in each side is attacking each other equally. but you cant claim boys being boys if its one or more people just constantly attacking the one person with no chance of them being able to defend them selves.

 

[EllEzDee]

I was hoping for this to end in a rape story, but anyway, what's a jock?

 

[Bugerion]

Good thing that doesn't happen here jocks are actually nice here and sure kids insult other kids but they rarely go into fights,also only privilaged kids are the ones profesors like.

 

[Raddra]

Haven't read the thread.. so I don't know if this has been said before.

But..

It sounds like you need to stop whining and threatening lawsuit and to actually DO it.

There are authorities that deal with this exact issue. There is a reason your principal wet himself when you actually mentioned the L word.

Hit google, look around for advice and your local authorities. Make some calls. If you are scarred, you have evidence. You have family testimony, and there will be other people who will vouch for you.

As for why they're getting away with it? because you are not doing something about it that involves people outside the circle.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

Okay yeah this is a life story but it has a point

I've been beaten up my whole life (weather it be because I'm weird, because I'm poor, or because I'm 18 and have never had a girlfriend)

but in 7th grade (weird/poor) things went too far

the Football team would always hold me down and take turns hitting me
or pelting me with tennis and baseballs

scares bruises and black eyes everywhere

the teachers said "they're just boys being boys"

then one day at the gym, we were doing the rope climb
you climb this really tall rope, ring the bell, then fall onto this really soft cooshy pad so you don't have to climb all the way back down (the pad itself was like 4-5 feet tall, and felt like a tempurpedic bed)


well I rang the bell and slid down the rope a little (because I didn't trust them for a reason) then about half way down the rope I let go and fell for the pad

the quarterback then proceeded to pull the pad out from under me and I hit the hard-wood floor with a loud thud

everyone laughed

I then lost my temper and garroted the quarterback with the rope (wrapped it around his neck and pulled tight) yelling that he would never do that again

then things became very serious; the teacher yelled at the class to "get him off of him" and well yeah you can see where things went

in the end, I got expelled for hurting the quarterback
and when I showed the bruises, crutches, and scars and told them how I got them they said "it's one thing to harm the student body, it's another thing to make up stories to justify it"

...the principal then tried to convince me to take up something to relieve my anger such as football, or baseball, or soccer...

goes to show what a jock he was as well

off note: I ended up taking archery in boyscouts and was the only one that could bullseye every time on the 20 yard target... I was told that I shouldn't take an anger outlet that would let me kill people from 60 feet away with a sharp stick

EDIT: Crap I forgot the question; why is it that the jocks can get away with ANYTHING but the second I defend myself after being badly injured (with 33 witnesses mind you) I get in major trouble?

EDIT 2: sorry actually I wasn't "expelled" I was just "suspended" for a quarter of the year

when I got back the jocks started beating me with bricks (apparently a drunk driver hit the wall next to the church or something)

and I just ran into the office as fast as I could and the second the principal heard my voice and the phrase "law suit"

well...
we had a talk

then I was suspended for my own safety

because he didn't want me to be in an environment where I could get hurt
(you know, because punishing the victim is TOTALLY what you're supposed to do... not punish the [4] offenders!)

EDIT 3: I'm not like this anymore and this has been taken care of (got half the kids there to stop attending and shut down one of the two schools they had... which were right across the street from each other haha)

Just throwing that out there

I'm not really a violent person (yes I am I just keep it in- and blame society)
so no one think I'm a freak or anything lol

just was wondering if anyone else has things like this happen and if this is running rampent

Here's some advice.

First start with ignoring these assholes.

Should they confront you in the school, a public place, look them in the eye and say as loudly and clearly as you can "Back off, and leave me alone".

Keep your hands open and at your sides; do not raise them yet. Never clench into fists, an open hand has more uses.

Resist any impulse to swear: swearing will act as a provocation.

One of two things will happen next: they will leave because of all the attention or they will continue.

Should things get physical, they will either strike you or grab you. Strikes are simple, stay out of range and leg it at the first opportunity.

If one of them grabs you, you are at the advantage: especially if they do so with both hands around the collar.

Should they do that; here are a list of soft targets:

Eyes: place your thumb at the side of the nose at the corner of the eye and press lightly and use your other hand to grip the back of the skull. This will make them stop and think.

Nose: One hand covering the fist of the other, raise up and strike down as hard as you can.

Ears: This is a doozy: grip one ear tightly so its sealed, then hit the other ear with the palm of your hand; the strike will traumatize the inner ear, possibly rupture the ear drum which will hurt like hell. He will let go, believe me.

Avoid carrying weapons at all times unless for a purpose such as hunting or sports. Always ensure licenses and such are up to date.


Do not confuse fit and intelligent men with jocks: a jock abuses what little power he has for his benefit and for the misery of others. If he's teammates had more integrity, they would be the ones telling him to pack his shit in.

Also, do seek a private therapist, not a school based one, a private one chosen by you; if unsure, ask your GP for a referral. Anger snaps like the one you had damage your cause, if you learn to channel these, the less onus is on you if things go pear shaped. I'd also recommend either training in Jujitsu, Wing Chun or Muay Thai: these are three very no nonsense martial arts that subscribe to basic martial principals such as "Hurt the other guy so much so they cannot hurt me".

 

[Droppa Deuce]

Jocks used to beat on my friend, so one day I brought a few heavies into school; some real nasty bros. We locked the jocks in the changing rooms with us and spent a good 30 mins giving them all a good rogering.

That put an end to my mate being bullied.

 

[Debirufisshu]

I'm usually a very calm guy, and I dont get angered too easily. This made me abit of a tatget when i started high school. Everyone has their limits, right? so one day I just snapped and beat a group of bastards shitless. Once they know you wont stand for that kind of shit they back off. No one wants to piss off the crazy guy, and it helps if you'd been doing martial arts since your childhood.

 

[irani_che]

get them out side of school,
I suggest clawhammer but u seem to be a good shot with a bow.
the worst thing you can do to a jock is break their kneecap, not even that, just damage it.
It is full of ligaments, cartilage and padding. If you damage any bit of it, you will be stuck with a limp, it is fully healable but can take up to a year followed by a few years of no strenuous activity.

no knee, no football, no football, no scholarships, no games, no respect, he is right down the food chain.

Heads like jocks because a good sports team brings prestige and money to the school, he is seen as an asset, you lower his value, no one will give a shit about him

 

[LuckyClover95]

Well the main thing that sticks out to me is that they were hitting you and however bad hitting is you strangled him with a rope....
They shouldn't be able to get away with it but I understand the principals main concern would be the strangling not the hitting :/