I don't like most main stream music, but some of it is good.
Remember, most things are popular for a reason.
Remember, most things are popular for a reason.
Why do many core gamers love mainstream games/movies but disparage mainstream music?
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The music industry tends to be a little more money grubbing and corrupt than video games or movies, before you point to activision being the devil, they atleast allow important, big time games be more than safe, tired slop that the mainstream music industry has allowed to rise to the top of the charts lately.
Oh no, don't get me wrong, the people behind it deserve all the credit but what I'm saying is that it is Justin Bieber, the "artist" who requires no talent, in real life, he could sing like a starving walrus but it would make no difference. A shame really. =)Plank of Wood said:
Agreed. It isn't my fault that mainstream music sucks. If a mainstream song comes out that I like, then hooray! If a mainstream game, sucks, well okay then. I just like things based on quality not on overall popularity.PayJ567 said:
Well, mainstream games are fun, maistream music is not good (usually). Just because something is meainstream doesn't necessarily mean it is bad, but mainstream music tends to be aimed at a younger, female demographic. However, some mainstream stuff (Blink 182, old Green Day) is good.
Mainsteam games usually have something decent about them. Mainsteam music on the other hand tends to suck big time. Games have to be good in someway to get recognized, but alot of musicians only need to make alot of noise and be willing to get sexed up to become "mainstream"
I think it has a lot to do with the amount of effort put into these three categories. If you look at the video game industry, mainstream games have huge development teams that all work very hard on making a game feel realistic (if that's their goal) or at least making it extremely enjoyable, the newest game juggernaut, Red Dead Redemption being the shining example of both.
On the movies front, the movies made these days, while not all fantastic, are made in a way that they try and capture the audience and dazzle them, like Avatar. Or they are just plain good like Inglorious Basterds or Hurt Locker.
Now look at music. Music has become so mass-produced that it is hard to distinguish artists from each other. There is no real independence in music, and usually artists are off of the shelves (or itunes homepage) in a few months. Very few artists stick around, and its much more about money than it ever was. This also has to do with the fact that less BANDS exist, and more "ARTISTS" are prevalent, giving them more time on television, which turns their attention away from actually making music.
Gamers don't like this about the music industry because they are used to their industry working harder to please them. The music industry has taken a dump in the effort its artists put into their music given the increase in electronic music (i.e. vocoders, autotune, etc.). However, increasing technology only betters the gaming industry, making high-budget mainstream games still directed towards the consumer and not the makers.
On the movies front, the movies made these days, while not all fantastic, are made in a way that they try and capture the audience and dazzle them, like Avatar. Or they are just plain good like Inglorious Basterds or Hurt Locker.
Now look at music. Music has become so mass-produced that it is hard to distinguish artists from each other. There is no real independence in music, and usually artists are off of the shelves (or itunes homepage) in a few months. Very few artists stick around, and its much more about money than it ever was. This also has to do with the fact that less BANDS exist, and more "ARTISTS" are prevalent, giving them more time on television, which turns their attention away from actually making music.
Gamers don't like this about the music industry because they are used to their industry working harder to please them. The music industry has taken a dump in the effort its artists put into their music given the increase in electronic music (i.e. vocoders, autotune, etc.). However, increasing technology only betters the gaming industry, making high-budget mainstream games still directed towards the consumer and not the makers.
Lady GaGa is indeed a *****, but I did like a couple of her songs.
But for the most part, what ToTaL LoLiGe said.
But for the most part, what ToTaL LoLiGe said.
Because a higher percentage of what the games industry produces is good.
Phrased differently, I don't hate things that are popular, I hate things that are shitty. I like Handlebars by the Flobots because it has a message I agree with and sounds good. I don't like Miley Cyrus, the Jonas Brothers, Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, ect. songs because they have no real message and they sound awful. Both are popular, but I just can't stand one of them.
Similarly, I love Call of Duty, Gears of War and Halo, but I can't stand the Resident Evil series. All are popular games series, the difference is that one of them gives me zero enjoyment and the others entertain me.
There is some good and bad in both the modern game and music industries, its just that you have to search out good in the music industry whereas its very easy to find good games.
Phrased differently, I don't hate things that are popular, I hate things that are shitty. I like Handlebars by the Flobots because it has a message I agree with and sounds good. I don't like Miley Cyrus, the Jonas Brothers, Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, ect. songs because they have no real message and they sound awful. Both are popular, but I just can't stand one of them.
Similarly, I love Call of Duty, Gears of War and Halo, but I can't stand the Resident Evil series. All are popular games series, the difference is that one of them gives me zero enjoyment and the others entertain me.
There is some good and bad in both the modern game and music industries, its just that you have to search out good in the music industry whereas its very easy to find good games.
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My favourite genre of music is pop, but that doesn't necessarily mean that all I listen to is chart. I do enjoy a lot of chart music, but I listen to all sorts of alternative pop such as Cash Cash, Simian Mobile Disco etc that isn't necessarily 'mainstream'.
Basically mainstream haters can suck my dick. It's become just as much of a trend to declare yourself against the mainstream as it has to be into it. You're not cool just because you don't like listening to chart music, sorry guys!
My favourite genre of music is pop, but that doesn't necessarily mean that all I listen to is chart. I do enjoy a lot of chart music, but I listen to all sorts of alternative pop such as Cash Cash, Simian Mobile Disco etc that isn't necessarily 'mainstream'.
Basically mainstream haters can suck my dick. It's become just as much of a trend to declare yourself against the mainstream as it has to be into it. You're not cool just because you don't like listening to chart music, sorry guys!
'Cause its a hell lot easier to be a mainstream gamer/movie-goer than it is to get into mainstream music.