Why do people hate the Wii.
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To answer some of the questions that people who defend the Wii have raised,
1. No I haven't forgotten to have fun, I have plenty of fun playing my other game consoles more than enough to keep me from buying a system that doesn't have games I'm interested in. I think we have fun playing different and different types of games.
2. About the rehashing of old series and titles; I don't like Zelda an I don't like Smash Brothers. But Smash Bros. does count as a Mario game at least in part. It's one word away from being Super Mario Brothers and Mario has always featured prominently in the series.
3. I personally think it's gimmicky . Wario Ware. The system seems to be fighting to hard to use that a Wii mote functionally. I commend Nintendo for breaking that mold but for me their alternative hasn't worked well enough yet to start celebrating. I've thought that Nintendo itself was gimmicky for a long time even before the wii though.
4. I think people are making way more out of the 'hardcore vs. casual' thing than there really is. I don't think non-casual (hard core sound a bit pretentious to me) gamers really care that much about casual gamers. I don't understand spending $200 for something I'm only going to do casually but if you like it fine, just don't assume I hate you for it.
5. Okami, I had been waiting for this game for 2 years when it came out on the PS2 (I was shocked they marketed it outside of Japan actually) and I freaking loved it but no one played it then and I want to know does any one play it now on the Wii? I hope so, because it deserves more attention than it gets.
I think that all consoles right now are dragging seriously behind my expectations and desires but the Wii is solidly in third place. I don't hate the thing but then I don't want one either. It's about preference not hate.
1. No I haven't forgotten to have fun, I have plenty of fun playing my other game consoles more than enough to keep me from buying a system that doesn't have games I'm interested in. I think we have fun playing different and different types of games.
2. About the rehashing of old series and titles; I don't like Zelda an I don't like Smash Brothers. But Smash Bros. does count as a Mario game at least in part. It's one word away from being Super Mario Brothers and Mario has always featured prominently in the series.
3. I personally think it's gimmicky . Wario Ware. The system seems to be fighting to hard to use that a Wii mote functionally. I commend Nintendo for breaking that mold but for me their alternative hasn't worked well enough yet to start celebrating. I've thought that Nintendo itself was gimmicky for a long time even before the wii though.
4. I think people are making way more out of the 'hardcore vs. casual' thing than there really is. I don't think non-casual (hard core sound a bit pretentious to me) gamers really care that much about casual gamers. I don't understand spending $200 for something I'm only going to do casually but if you like it fine, just don't assume I hate you for it.
5. Okami, I had been waiting for this game for 2 years when it came out on the PS2 (I was shocked they marketed it outside of Japan actually) and I freaking loved it but no one played it then and I want to know does any one play it now on the Wii? I hope so, because it deserves more attention than it gets.
I think that all consoles right now are dragging seriously behind my expectations and desires but the Wii is solidly in third place. I don't hate the thing but then I don't want one either. It's about preference not hate.
I hate the fact the controller eats up batteries. -__-"
I love it in every other sense. I mean not alot of hardcore games like the 360 has, but its good fun that anyone from any age group can enjoy.
Which has always been nintendos aim, something everyone can enjoy.
I love it in every other sense. I mean not alot of hardcore games like the 360 has, but its good fun that anyone from any age group can enjoy.
Which has always been nintendos aim, something everyone can enjoy.
Of course, it's so simple! I'll go get one right now!Sylocat said:
Wait, wait... Where are all my good games? Where's God Hand? Where's Devil May Cry? What happened to my Shadow of the Colossus, Zone of the Enders and Ratchet and Clank? Where are the original (read: new) Konami, Capcom, and Insomniac titles? And where's my controller that actually does what I tell it to? Why does my boxer keep throwing hooks when I, a REAL LIFE martial artist, keep throwing uppercuts? Why must I play Metal Slug with the Wii controls, when the game was obviously designed for the "archaic" D-pad and button combination?
Compared to the other next-gen systems, the Wii isn't doing that bad. Compared with a GOOD last-gen system, however (like the PS2), the flaws with the system are immediately obvious.
Small library of quality titles+ controls that are fiddly+ lack of quality new IPs on the market= Not much.
As I've said, the only thing I like about the Wii right now is Virtual Console, but even that is reliant on reaching a younger fanbase, one that hasn't played the games and doesn't mind possibly paying more money for digital content than the (secondhand) price of the original carts. Also, some VC titles shouldn't even be ON there. Mario 3 and Mario World have had several ports already. Same goes for Sonic 1 and 2.
They consider it:
-Childish
-Casual
-Too Much Excercise
Also it's different to what normal gaming is "supposed" to be like (as in with the motion controls). Strangely enough I disagree and really like the Wii.
-Childish
-Casual
-Too Much Excercise
Also it's different to what normal gaming is "supposed" to be like (as in with the motion controls). Strangely enough I disagree and really like the Wii.
My younger brother's had a wii for about two years nowand at first I kind of like it but, the fun soon faded away. The first frustration was the annoyingly shit remote motion sensor control thing.
Another thing I hate about it is the sheer lack of intersting games. My brother has loads of games for the Wii butso far only one interests me, Brawl (Which I think is much better than Melee).
So Nintendo two years hardly anything good, and the slightly good games are all things we've seen before (Zelda, Metroid, Mario and Smash Bros.), so until you start bringing good stuff out I'm gonna stick with my 360 and it's horrible new dashboard.
Another thing I hate about it is the sheer lack of intersting games. My brother has loads of games for the Wii butso far only one interests me, Brawl (Which I think is much better than Melee).
So Nintendo two years hardly anything good, and the slightly good games are all things we've seen before (Zelda, Metroid, Mario and Smash Bros.), so until you start bringing good stuff out I'm gonna stick with my 360 and it's horrible new dashboard.
1. It's full of terrible cash-ins and ports of 360 games (sometimes cash-ins, without the graphics)
2. I don't like the Wiimote
3. It costs more than a 360 now (!!??)
4. The Graphics are worse (even with the component cable it looks bad)
5. There are 101 different attachments to it
6. Too many peripherals and junk
7. The controller isn't accurate
8. The classic games are either rubbish or I already own them with a superior controller.
9. The best games I play with the GC controller. That's just sad, considering it seems a step in the past.
10. The games are nowhere near as good as the average 360 game, but cost something close.
2. I don't like the Wiimote
3. It costs more than a 360 now (!!??)
4. The Graphics are worse (even with the component cable it looks bad)
5. There are 101 different attachments to it
6. Too many peripherals and junk
7. The controller isn't accurate
8. The classic games are either rubbish or I already own them with a superior controller.
9. The best games I play with the GC controller. That's just sad, considering it seems a step in the past.
10. The games are nowhere near as good as the average 360 game, but cost something close.
Well most of the complaints seem to be that the graphics suck or that they don't like the controls. This suports my saftey argument rather well. Bun instead of just reposing one of my other posts I made I think I'll make some counter points to other posters comments.
I think its odd that you call the GC controller a step in the past, its not much of a step foreword to the Xbox Controller,OMG one more button! It's the same controller layout as the PS2, and PS3, and X-box so how can you call it out dated? Besides, Nintendo has a always been a beacon of good controller design, and controller design to come.
Well I went to IGN to check out releases, and I'll agree with you ,to an extent but ,the 360 is hardly pure as driven snow when it comes to good vs bad games. The PS2 had ten fold the number of bad games to good, but it never turned anyone away from it, and the X-box hardly swelled with amazement.
Winter Sports 2: The Next Challenge, Rise of the Argonauts, Meteos Wars, Destroy All Humans! Path of the Furon, PowerUp Forever, Secret Service, Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon, Monopoly, Sonic Unleashed, Tomb Raider Underworld, Pro Evolution Soccer 2009, Prince of Persia, History -- Civil War: Secret Missions, Last Remnant, Disney Sing It
Karaoke Revolution Presents American Idol Encore 2, Bolt, NPPL: Championship Paintball 2009, Kingdom for Keflings, Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix, Lips, Tomb Raider Underworld, Left 4 Dead, Naruto: The Broken Bond, Need for Speed Undercover, Shaun White Snowboarding, Quantum of Solace, Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe (Kollector's Edition)
Everything in the list looks Utterly soulless with the exception of Left 4 dead, but its out for everything else. wich is a rater soulless thing to do. The fact is, you cant say the 360 isn't about making money, because it is. its why developers do what they do. they wouldn't have made Halo 3 (which I want to remind you is technically marathon 5) If it wasn't going to make them an embarrassing about of money. and seance no game studio has released an epically wonderful game for free (except Mugen)I'm going to say ALL games where made for money, not because they love their fan base.
I'd like to point out that I don't hate any of the consoles, except for the PS2 and that has more to do with a hatred of Sony, not of the system. Their is no solid argument for why the 360 is better than the Wii their just different, and those differences make them unique, if you love game, you should be able to step back and look at them subjectively and think about why YOU hate a game, why YOU like a game. and in that seance I say this is one of the best times to be a gamer. With brilliant mainstream games, like Fallout 3 and interesting stylized games Like Sam & Max is a good time to be a gamer, so enjoy yourself. Try something new, you may find something you like. Because Lets remember part of beeing a gamer is to have fun, not to instill hated.
Well I would think having a way to use more controllers without needing to buy a new controller every time would be a plus. It also means you can have wireless guitar Hero which you can't do with the 360 because of Microsoft proprietary-ism.Baneat said:
I think its odd that you call the GC controller a step in the past, its not much of a step foreword to the Xbox Controller,OMG one more button! It's the same controller layout as the PS2, and PS3, and X-box so how can you call it out dated? Besides, Nintendo has a always been a beacon of good controller design, and controller design to come.
Well I went to IGN to check out releases, and I'll agree with you ,to an extent but ,the 360 is hardly pure as driven snow when it comes to good vs bad games. The PS2 had ten fold the number of bad games to good, but it never turned anyone away from it, and the X-box hardly swelled with amazement.
Your statement is such a lie, it nearly killed me. Out of curiosity I went to recent 360 releases and guess what...Pie said:
Winter Sports 2: The Next Challenge, Rise of the Argonauts, Meteos Wars, Destroy All Humans! Path of the Furon, PowerUp Forever, Secret Service, Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon, Monopoly, Sonic Unleashed, Tomb Raider Underworld, Pro Evolution Soccer 2009, Prince of Persia, History -- Civil War: Secret Missions, Last Remnant, Disney Sing It
Karaoke Revolution Presents American Idol Encore 2, Bolt, NPPL: Championship Paintball 2009, Kingdom for Keflings, Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix, Lips, Tomb Raider Underworld, Left 4 Dead, Naruto: The Broken Bond, Need for Speed Undercover, Shaun White Snowboarding, Quantum of Solace, Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe (Kollector's Edition)
Everything in the list looks Utterly soulless with the exception of Left 4 dead, but its out for everything else. wich is a rater soulless thing to do. The fact is, you cant say the 360 isn't about making money, because it is. its why developers do what they do. they wouldn't have made Halo 3 (which I want to remind you is technically marathon 5) If it wasn't going to make them an embarrassing about of money. and seance no game studio has released an epically wonderful game for free (except Mugen)I'm going to say ALL games where made for money, not because they love their fan base.
So does your mother, but I don't have a illogical hatred towards her. Shes just not all that good at it.J-Man said:
I'd like to point out that I don't hate any of the consoles, except for the PS2 and that has more to do with a hatred of Sony, not of the system. Their is no solid argument for why the 360 is better than the Wii their just different, and those differences make them unique, if you love game, you should be able to step back and look at them subjectively and think about why YOU hate a game, why YOU like a game. and in that seance I say this is one of the best times to be a gamer. With brilliant mainstream games, like Fallout 3 and interesting stylized games Like Sam & Max is a good time to be a gamer, so enjoy yourself. Try something new, you may find something you like. Because Lets remember part of beeing a gamer is to have fun, not to instill hated.
Just because a gaming system sold a lot doesn't make it good, games are what generate the money really, not the system by it's self.
I bought a Wii, played The Godfather and Resident Evil 4... put it away and then I gave it to my sisters.
Compared to about 70-90 games I bought for the Xbox 360, the Wii really hasn't generated that much money from me for Nintento compared to Microsoft.
I bought a Wii, played The Godfather and Resident Evil 4... put it away and then I gave it to my sisters.
Compared to about 70-90 games I bought for the Xbox 360, the Wii really hasn't generated that much money from me for Nintento compared to Microsoft.
Very true. I bought a Wii as well, but after a while I got really disappointed with the lack of cool games. Of course there are some, but most Wii titles just didn't appeal to me at all, while I kept missing out on great games on the Xbox 360 / PS3. So in the end I did something I've never done before, I switched consoles mid-generation. I bought an Xbox 360, and now, some months and a number of awesome games later, I can say I don't regret it one bit. I still love Nintendo though, with their long history of wonderful games how could I not. I really hope they'll get it right again next console generation, and don't put so much emphasis anymore on 'fun for your aunt' games.Booze Zombie said:
Metroid Prime and Wario are established franchises and Lego Indiana Jones is multi-platform. It's actually better on the other systems.Graustein said:Super Smash Bros. Brawlintergral said:Okay, name ten that don't have Zelda or Mario in the title. Prove me wrong.
No More Heroes
Okami
Metroid Prime 3
LostWinds
Boom Blox
De Blob
WarioWare: Smooth Moves
Zack & Wiki
Lego Indiana Jones
All of these I either have or have played, and love. None of them have Mario or Zelda in the title. I'd also like to point out Metroid Prime 1 & 2 and Pikmin being rereleased for Wii using the Wiimote, the Wii's back-catalogue of Gamecube and Virtual console games, Twilight Princess and Super Mario Galaxy, which are both much fun, the upcoming Kirby game for the Wii, Conduit and Manhunt, about which I'm rather excited, etc etc.
Whether you personally enjoy these games or not is moot. The fact of the matter is that many others do enjoy them. I don't like GTA or Halo, do I have the gall to deny that they're good games just because they don't appeal to me?
I like the wii personally all consoles really have their perksm Ps3 with its free internet and a good game every so often, 360 with its AWSOME exclusives and brilliant internet at a fee, and the wii with its unique control system, the problem is that their still milking the really old gaming stars like mario and sonic, what they really need to do is to put their heads together for a couple of months and think of a new nintendo star, either that or produce another pokemon game and bring it out on the wii to make me happy =)
Neither of which are valid reasons why the Wii isn't a good platform.Eipok Kruden said:Metroid Prime and Wario are established franchises and Lego Indiana Jones is multi-platform. It's actually better on the other systems.Graustein said:Super Smash Bros. Brawlintergral said:Okay, name ten that don't have Zelda or Mario in the title. Prove me wrong.
No More Heroes
Okami
Metroid Prime 3
LostWinds
Boom Blox
De Blob
WarioWare: Smooth Moves
Zack & Wiki
Lego Indiana Jones
All of these I either have or have played, and love. None of them have Mario or Zelda in the title. I'd also like to point out Metroid Prime 1 & 2 and Pikmin being rereleased for Wii using the Wiimote, the Wii's back-catalogue of Gamecube and Virtual console games, Twilight Princess and Super Mario Galaxy, which are both much fun, the upcoming Kirby game for the Wii, Conduit and Manhunt, about which I'm rather excited, etc etc.
Whether you personally enjoy these games or not is moot. The fact of the matter is that many others do enjoy them. I don't like GTA or Halo, do I have the gall to deny that they're good games just because they don't appeal to me?