why do people not know the correct end of the decade?

[ctrl-alt-postal]

Well, I am more likely to judge things in decades at, say, 9/11 2011 and say "what was THAT decade like? You know, event driven chronology not based on baby jesus.

 

[Icecoldcynic]

You don't start counting something that existed at 0. It's like saying I have three dots. 0, 1, 2, 3. here's a picture of them (. . . .)

DECA is a group of ten in our decimal system.

Is it really that hard to see? There can't be a year 0 because its like saying I live in the 0th house on the left, Chicago the 0th city established, I came in 0th place... etc etc.


Yeah, OP, your average person doesn't like to to look at odd numbers. Plus counting back by tens in DECAdes would leave you at year 1. So you're correct, spread the word and all that. I got my family to stop being dumb about it when I was 7 and it was New Years Eve 1999.

But we're not talking about counting here, we're talking about the years. So your entire 'point' about where you start counting is meaningless.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

Well decades aren't maths. Therefore your entire point became meaningless. Right now we're in the 0x decade, and in the new year we will be in the 1x decade. Is that really so hard for you to comprehend? Are you saying the year 0 never existed and doesn't count as a year?

no it was never a year, in fact at that point in time the Romans, who were the controlling culture at the time, didn't even have a number for 0. 0 is an Indian invention.

also the that question is rather dumb cause at the time they weren't counting down to year 0, they had a vastly different dating system, even according to the Jews we are somewhere in the years 4000 or something

 

[Icecoldcynic]

People really need to stop bringing maths in as an example, because like many other things that deviate from their origins, years aren't counted the same way as regular numbers. Anyone can see that.

 

[Shru1kan]

You don't start counting something that existed at 0. It's like saying I have three dots. 0, 1, 2, 3. here's a picture of them (. . . .)

DECA is a group of ten in our decimal system.

Is it really that hard to see? There can't be a year 0 because its like saying I live in the 0th house on the left, Chicago the 0th city established, I came in 0th place... etc etc.


Yeah, OP, your average person doesn't like to to look at odd numbers. Plus counting back by tens in DECAdes would leave you at year 1. So you're correct, spread the word and all that. I got my family to stop being dumb about it when I was 7 and it was New Years Eve 1999.

But we're not talking about counting here, we're talking about the years. So your entire 'point' about where you start counting is meaningless.

I'm starting to think you're trolling.

So, your age is not a count of years? The year is not a count of how many have passed since the common era began? Why not make the next year year 50000, if we aren't counting up in order?

 

[Icecoldcynic]

I'm starting to think you're trolling.

So, your age is not a count of years? The year is not a count of how many have passed since the common era began? Why not make the next year year 50000, if we aren't counting up in order?

You can be 0 years old.

EDIT: Just because it follows a different convention to ordinary counting, does not mean it's completely arbitrary. Why are you so reluctant to accept that sometimes, that's just how things work?

 

[Shru1kan]

I'm starting to think you're trolling.

So, your age is not a count of years? The year is not a count of how many have passed since the common era began? Why not make the next year year 50000, if we aren't counting up in order?

You can be 0 years old.

Almost had me, I must say.

The fact remains that in the Gregorian Calendar, the years go from 1BCE to 1CE. Its not a good system, but the fact remains that you start counting at 1.

 

[Wayte]

Because unless I'm mistaken there IS a 0 AD. That and it's simpler.


Edit: I suppose I AM mistaken on the first count. But it's still simpler

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

What you've just said is that 2000 isn't a year as 2000 is number 1, 2001 is 2 and etc so 2010 would be the new decade.

 

[Icecoldcynic]

Okay think of it this way:

In a game, you start with zero points. Let's say you gain 10 points. Now you're on another 'decalevel' of points. You gained ten, and now you're back to 0, but with a 1 preceeding it, to represent that you gained 10. I can't even think of a game where the points started at 1.

 

[Lukeje]

the thing is they are WRONG. any math student or person studying math will be able to explain how to count in base 10 aka the decimal system. you start at 1 and end at 10 before the next iteration comes up, aka 11. you don't start counting at 0 any counting system, even binary. start counting and i'm going to bet you start at 1 and not 0.

Any computer science student will tell you that you start at 0 and count up. (In fact, in binary, you do start at 0 for ease of use (e.g., 0000 to 1111 is 16 numbers).)

That's what I was thinking; arrays always start with index zero (except in MatLab; damned stupid thing).

 

[Shru1kan]

Okay think of it this way:

In a game, you start with zero points. Let's say you gain 10 points. Now you're on another 'decalevel' of points. You gained ten, and now you're back to 0, but with a 1 preceeding it, to represent that you gained 10. I can't even think of a game where the points started at 1.

Then you ARE right, years ARE different. They got from 1BCE to 1CE.

 

[Scrythe]

Possibly because the way we group things.

The 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's 70's, 80's, 90's, etc.

 

[Icecoldcynic]

Okay think of it this way:

In a game, you start with zero points. Let's say you gain 10 points. Now you're on another 'decalevel' of points. You gained ten, and now you're back to 0, but with a 1 preceeding it, to represent that you gained 10. I can't even think of a game where the points started at 1.

Then you ARE right, years ARE different. They got from 1BCE to 1CE.

Okay, let's imagine that the last year of BC is simply considered the 0th year of AD. There, now you are no longer baffled by the mystical decades system, and everyone is happy.

 

[Pyotr Romanov]

[small]and some people still think math is witchcraft[/small]

Seriously?
Explain yourself.

Please?

 

[Karlaxx]

Because ten is a nice round number.

Sums it all up right there.

 

[Shru1kan]

Okay think of it this way:

In a game, you start with zero points. Let's say you gain 10 points. Now you're on another 'decalevel' of points. You gained ten, and now you're back to 0, but with a 1 preceeding it, to represent that you gained 10. I can't even think of a game where the points started at 1.

Then you ARE right, years ARE different. They got from 1BCE to 1CE.

Okay, let's imagine that the last year of BC is simply considered the 0th year of AD. There, now you are no longer baffled by the mystical decades system, and everyone is happy.

Its a cold hard fact that the Gregorian calendar (the one most EVERYONE ON EARTH uses) does NOT have a year 0. Try again. I offered a solution.

 

[TheLastCylon]

[small]and some people still think math is witchcraft[/small]

Seriously?
Explain yourself.

Please?

It was a joke.

 

[-Orgasmatron-]

We've already had this thread, you're wrong. Let me break it down.

2000-2001 = year 1
2001-2002 = year 2
2002-2003 = year 3
2003-2004 = year 4
2004-2005 = year 5
2005-2006 = year 6
2006-2007 = year 7
2007-2008 = year 8
2008-2009 = year 9
2009-2010 = year 10, boom decade

You could say that in your arguement the decade starts in 2001, but in real life it doesn't start in 2001, it starts in 2000, we started counting from 0 not 1 and 0-1 = 1 year as explained above.

 

[Icecoldcynic]

Its a cold hard fact that the Gregorian calendar (the one most EVERYONE ON EARTH uses) does NOT have a year 0. Try again. I offered a solution.

It's much easier to accept that not everything in life is logical. Why is it that in canada, they sell coke in 591 ml bottles? That's an odd number, right? I'm just trying to help you get over the mindnumbing sensation of not understanding that sometimes things don't make sense at first, but you learn to accept them.