Why do people that watch anime and read manga in the western world believe that being an otaku.

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WorldCritic

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Because anime fans are weird (I am an anime and manga fan.) I cosplayed a couple times (thankfully I still looked pretty normal) but it's not something I plan on doing again.
 

Superhyperactiveman

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It's sort of like black people and the N-word. It has negative connotations, but we refer to ourselves as that in a positive manner. We know the word and its conotations in Japan, and we refer to ourselves as it as a playful jab at ourselves.
 

Tomo Stryker

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Certain people like to look at comics or at movies or even this new thing called, "Video Games". Back on topic, I really don't care for Manga or other forms of melodramatic comics. But I'm the kind of guy who also read the non spoiler review to Tron and didn't go to it because it look.... *low tone* nerdy. I eventually saw it and all 1.5 my expectations were fulfilled.
 

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anyone seen the family guy episode where Lois Griffin is revealed to be in a pornographic movie when she was younger? Brian's advice to here was to just be open about it and laugh at any jokes people made, then people would stop making the jokes.

I guess they are maybe trying to do that? Just another possibility to go with the others previously stated.
 

erto101

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alrekr said:
otaku didn't use to be negative term in Japan. Only in recnet years did it gain negative tags. Anyhow I mean just cause I like and watch/read alot of manga and anime (thus arguably an otaku) doesn't mean I'm creepy perv in my parents basement.
Well gay didn't use to mean homosexual :p Can you imagine that word as a positive thing in other nations?

EDIT: just realized i came across maybe a little homophobic!
That is not what i meant. Rather positive as opposed to the way gay is used as an insult
 

mireko

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Words have different meanings and connotations in different countries.

Often, when a word is imported into a language, it will deviate from its original meaning.
 

Casual Shinji

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I watch anime and read manga, but I hate the word 'otaku'.

As a matter of fact, I dislike most Japanese pronunciations of Japanese media used by non-Japanese people. Even using words like 'anime' and 'manga' make me shudder somewhat. I rather just call it Japanese animation and Japanese comics, but 'anime' and 'manga' doesn't take as long to type, so...

But yeah, people refering to themselves as 'otaku' is a little sad. Can't you just call yourself a nerd like the rest of us on the western hemisphere?
 

GodofCider

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I've never heard of the term Otaku used in a positive manner here.(Vermont) Of course, manga/anime are rare enough here as it is, so what can I say?
 

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I try not to associate otaku. I use nerd to describe myself when it comes to anime, because of what the word means in Japan. But then again I wouldn't really call myself a full blown otaku, if I wanted to be identified that way.
 

alrekr

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erto101 said:
alrekr said:
otaku didn't use to be negative term in Japan. Only in recnet years did it gain negative tags. Anyhow I mean just cause I like and watch/read alot of manga and anime (thus arguably an otaku) doesn't mean I'm creepy perv in my parents basement.
Well gay didn't use to mean homosexual :p Can you imagine that word as a positive thing in other nations?

EDIT: just realized i came across maybe a little homophobic!
That is not what i meant. Rather positive as opposed to the way gay is used as an insult
What do mean gay means homosexual it means happy! get a dictionary fool!
 

Lord Beautiful

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Because it doesn't really mean the same thing in both places...

In Japan, being called an Otaku is considered mildly offensive (The western equivalent of being called a Creepy obsessive Nerd).

In Western places its used as more of a self-identifcation label for those that really like anime and manga, like Metalhead or Indie kid.

A similar type of thing happened with the word "Greebo or Grunger" in the UK a few years back. It was used to negatively describe someone who liked Nu-Metal and wore black, wore loose jeans and spiky hair etc, Like Emo but more Korn and less wrist cutting. After a while, this group of people just adopted the word to describe their particular social group and it isn't (effectively) used as a derogative word anymore.

See also "******"...

Japanophile is slightly different as it refers to a person obsessed with Japanese culture. Which as far as I'm aware is used in a derogative manner...
Pretty much this. Also, your avatar brings me much happiness.
 

Nannernade

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Well if the person didn't know the meaning of the word I'd say it looks pretty cool in itself, but once you hear the meaning it immediately drops off. Perhaps that is the way the people in the west think about it.
 

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Head Chef Dom said:
Presumably because it sounds 'exotic' and clever
Think of it as a type of hipster, I am one of the few and there for better.
 

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Because it means something completely different to us.

I mean, hell, we already changed the meaning of "anime" and "manga," and other languages (especially English) don't always use loan words in the same manner as the original language. Why not?
 

GasparNolasco

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Some people take pride in being called "nerd" or "geek" too, these where (in some cases still are) essentially insults. I guess it's about the sense of belonging, otaku are nerds after all, nerds like to be part of something, hence the obsession with labels even though they are not aways positive.
 

Ulquiorra4sama

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I love anime and manga, and though i've not once told myself that i'm an otaku i still wouldn't see it as an unsult if someone did call me otaku.

It has to me the same meaning as the word nerd, geek or gamer.

As for why other see it as positive, well... I'd say that the fact that a pretty massive magazine which promotes anime and such is called Otaku and so it's become a way to let people here know just what sort of people they are. In short it's a mean of identification... i think.
 

Grabbin Keelz

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Otaku is japanese for geek I think, and since anime is the only thing we know about Japan, well there you go.
I like anime cause it's visually entertaining for the most part. Everything else is just a preference.