Why do some people think free healthcare is bad?

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Fuselage

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I recently read the saddest thread I've yet to see on here, I literally bawled my eyes out.
On the thread, I thought to myself, Free health care would save this poor persons life.
I may not be an expert on the industry but denying free health care I reckon, Is denying poor peoples lives.
 

MortisLegio

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Pirate Kitty said:
Do you want to pay for it?

Money has to come from somewhere.

And if you do, them go to a hospital and start handing out cash.
ninja'd

but yeah and there are a few problems with it

Who gets it?
Whats it cover?
How much will it cost(in taxes)?
will it actually fix anything?
 

ReincarnatedFTP

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Because the poor should pull themselves up by their bootstraps or learn their place in the world.
/Republican
Anyways, some would say costs, but the ones who cry loudest about costs in America (at least the ones in nationally elected offices) don't give a damn about cost and want tax cuts tax cuts tax cuts while expecting to pay down the deficit while allowing the rich to hoard/not invest their money into the economy (whether they should do that or not is debatable but if you care so much about deficits it would be in your interest to get money to flow into the system in one of the few places where there's money left, especially in a country with so much wealth disparity that 2% have 85-95% of the wealth).
I'm also kinda pissed at the Democrat's healthcare bill. First they threw out the really good option to compromise with Republicans (single payer), then Obama did a backroom deal with insurance companies (there goes the public option), then we get this really reallly reallllllllllyyyyyyyy conservative healthcare bill (basically the same thing Republicans wanted to pass in 1994) and people are still like "hurr durr socialism". That and people whining about being forced to buy health insurance because they apparently want everybody else to foot their bill out of their taxes when they can't pay for it (one of the things they attack healthcare reform proponents for no less), not to mention the individual mandate was a Republican ideal.

So as for America the real reasons are:
Red baiting
Ignorance
Apathy/Sociopathy by corrupt or indifferent politicians

Added note: If it's an emergency, EMTALA makes sure they go to an emergency room, but if they can't pay for it, you eventually foot the medical bills out of your taxes anyways. HCR attempts to streamline that cost and makes things more efficient.
 

Lilani

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I don't know much about healthcare in general, however I can tell you that nothing is "free." Ever. And it never will be. As far as I can tell, the difference between the healthcare plans is who pays for it, how, and when. But calling it "free" healthcare is far from the truth, even I can see that. Regardless of which plan you're talking about, it's not even close.
 

ThrobbingEgo

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As a Canadian, I'm glad I have it. Too bad we're all poverty stricken and crippled by taxes in this communist dystopia. /lol

Yeah. It's a good thing that the "no subsidized healthcare" policy kept America from being hit by the recession.
 

xdiesp

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Keep people constantly scared and they'll do whatever you want them to, no matter how bad for them.
 

archvile93

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Because the government can't even run itself half decently (few governments can). I can't imagine how it would run healthcare.
 

conflictofinterests

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cocoro67 said:
I recently read the saddest thread I've yet to see on here, I literally bawled my eyes out.
On the thread, I thought to myself, Free health care would save this poor persons life.
I may not be an expert on the industry but denying free health care I reckon, Is denying poor peoples lives.
WHY DO I HAVE TO PAY FOR IT?!

... Or so the logic goes. It's not that people want other people to die in most cases, it's that they don't see why their tax money should go towards saving, say, an illegal immigrant, or a murderer, or someone who never has and never will be a productive member of society.

Beyond that, there's the notion that if you take away the incentive to become a doctor, i.e. the oodles and oodles of money they make (Which, if any of what I'm hearing out of my state university news paper is correct, is doubtful at best) then people won't want to become doctors and/or they won't want to be as good of doctors.
 

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archvile93 said:
Because the government can't even run itself half decently (few governments can). I can't imagine how it would run healthcare.
Well, I do have roads and highways and a postal system and a military doing god-knows-what. They must have had SOME managerial success to accomplish these things. Just because we're unsatisfied in general doesn't mean the government isn't kicking ass at some things.

It could be worse. We could be Mexico.
 

Redlin5_v1legacy

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ThrobbingEgo said:
As a Canadian, I'm glad I have it. Too bad we're all poverty stricken and crippled by taxes in this communist dystopia. /lol

Yeah. It's a good thing that the "no subsidized healthcare" policy kept America from being hit by the recession.
Ninja'd by a comrade.

Yeah, that thread made me contemplate how Americans can live with lettings stories like that happen every day.

Oh right, money. Because the health-care corporations in the states won't let go.

Also this belongs in a different forum.

[sub][sub]Hmm, I'm going socialist I think because the more and more I look at Capitalism, the more I'm disgusted.[/sub][/sub]
 

DalekJaas

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Australia has free health care, it can result in really long waits but it is better than death because you can't pay.

We had the best of both worlds because we have private health insurance as well, so if you want to pay for surgery you can and get it done quickly.

However Australia has a substantially smaller population than the US so our system (which is very good minus some flaws) may not directly translate.
 

Flamespeak

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It would drastically reduce the amount of income many medical facilities receive for one and cause an overall reduction in health care quality. Of course, Sweden has free health care and ranks #1 in terms of quality of health care worldwide generally, but then again it has a population of less than 10 million as opposed to the US population of over 307 million.
 

Mcface

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The government is pretty shitty when it comes to regulation and spending.
Putting them in charge of health care for everyone, is not only a bad idea, but a dangerous one.

And NOTHING is free. it's not that easy.
The people who can afford it now, would end up paying more, to pick up the slack for those that don't. Not directly, but through other taxes.