Why do we not care about Education ?

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Monotomy <--- there's your problem.

Realising that the next 5 of the best years you have are going to be spent in a building/campus where you are taught, no matter what your opinion. People like the idea of choice; playing games which give you choice, tend to be more flaunted for the fact (Instead of problem solving), and given the choice, most teens and/or kids would initially choose to be elsewhere if possible.
Besides, as a kid you aren't exactly the most mature, and the idea of aspiring to a (realistic) job is not even on the horizon for most 11 year olds. Simply put, why work towards something when you have the patience of a mole and have everything done for you? No 11 year old really thinks about the future, paying bills and going old, why should they?

No, I'm not putting my 'ideal solution' down, I'm smart enough to avoid that potentially volatile subject.
 

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I think parents are partly to blame for this, it depends on the type of values that they show you. My parents have never been supportive in any of my hobbies or interests, but as soon as I was in my last year of High School they pretty much forced me to pick something for college. So I went, did alright, graduated and worked in my field for a bit. Then I realized how much I hated what I was doing and I got out of it. Now I am back at square one.

I do care about my education and where I am going in life, it is something I think about every day because I am at a dead end job currently. My problem is that I can't think of anything to do. Currently computer programing/repair is on my mind. Something I believe I will follow through with once I get a few things in my life in check.

It is sad to see so many people just not care though, or like me go through and have second thoughts. It is also sad for all the people who want to go but can't afford it because to me they are the ones who truly deserve it.
 

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xxhazyshadowsxx said:
Didn't you know OP?
Education = Money.
No, not always.

Teachers go to college, for at least six years, and make less money then my mother, who works at the post office.


EDIT: USUALLY IT DOES.
 

Nmil-ek

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A word of warning from someone that did ditch they're education early really, really consider if what you want is what you want I wasted 3 years at college pursuing programming, I fighured hell office work would be far better. Ya, know what It was the most boring three years of my life, and I took on both an administration and tech support job in that time sitting in an air conned office, listening to uptight arsehole supervisors staring at a screen with only the sounds of the damned monitor buzzing and fellow workers sighing god that sucked. I was happier doing low skill manual work, pay was better and at the end of the day you atleast felt like you had done something.
 

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From what I've seen, people don't care about actually learning the stuff in their classes, because very, very frequently, there is little to no application of that information into everyday life or their future jobs.

I care about my education as far as getting a degree. I don't care in the slightest what information I retain in the process of getting that far, because as I said, the vast majority of it I will never use, and the stuff I will use, I'll need a refresher on anyway.
 

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This thread is BAD and you should feel BAD!

(More) On topic: In a vastly ironic twist on conventional American ideals, I think it's because we aren't eletist enough. Any nation that teaches its citizens that they can be as intellectually lazy and unintelligent as they want and get away with it is doomed to stew in the bile of its own underachieving apathy. Yes, I think Rapture and The Earth (as portrayed in Equilibrium) would've been nice places to live if they hadn't been c**ked up by Fontaine Futuristics and Christian Bale, respectively.

Children should be taught that if they are content to be average, they will stay average. Average childhoods and average schools raise average children, all of whom are condemned to perpetual average-ness. They are the future of humanity, and I don't want my future to be in the hands of a bunch of pissed-off, buffed-up morons.

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Maybe I'll start with this: for some jobs, you NEED higher education. It's true that a lot of college/uni courses are pretty much useless job-wise (like philosophy, gender studies or other stuff like that), but try finishing your education at high school, then amass "experience" and become a professor at Cambridge by 30 using just the power of your sheer awesomeness and pretty eyes. Good luck.

I've met quite a few people who had no idea what they want to do in life (strangely, most of them doing Arts & Humanities), who went to uni mostly to prolong this period in life when all responsibilities and hardships seem so remote and irrelevant... You know, student loan, some help from parents when the going gets tough, and off we go...

But most people I know went on with their education for a specific purpose, i.e. because they want to do something specific in life. In case of my coursemates, most of us want to stay in academia. One person wants to work in commercial biotech. One aims for patent law. But our course is relevant to all of us, and you need at least a BSc to properly work in research.

I've been told that a lot of people in my country used to go to the uni to avoid doing military service. Conscription has been abolished this year. We'll see how that affects the numbers...
 

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I care =D Cause I'm some kinda nerdtacular person.
There's a few people in my college course that don't give a crap about their education because;
- They think they should get a qualification just for turning up.
- They don't wanna be there but it's either that or they have to get a job or their parents kick them out.
- They decided to do Forensic Science cause they saw it on CSI and it looked all shiny, full of one-liners and mighty sunglasses and Horatio Caine.

I am one of those people who likes education and learning new stuff, so yeah I value my education. However too many people don't give a crap.

EDIT: Maybe people don't care because it's easier to sit on your ass and get benefits in the UK.
 

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FreelanceButler said:
I DO care because I know if I screw it up I have to get some really bad job like inspecting pen lids.
I suppose most people see it as their time to be free, so they don't want to spend that time sitting around learning.
Your avatar fits perfectly ;)

OT:
I try to care, since education does indeed equal money, but when you realize that your professors are talking bullshit, straight out lies or it's simply no use for your future occupation (or for any occupation at all), it get's quite hard to keep up the motivation and not just go back to work in the job you love for less money...
 

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Since when is this true? Most people do care about education. Especially people in college. Amer you just trying to make yourself feel smarter by pretending that not many people pay attention to their education?
 

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In Britain there's a lot of stigma about doing well at school. Especially in a low-income area, due to the 'Class War' mentality. If you do well, people see it as you trying to abandon your working class roots and stuff.

I hear there's a similar thing in America within some black 'cliques', if you do well your friends say your 'acting white' or something. Peer pressure to not do well, it's a vicious cycle.

Not that it stops those of us who are destined for greatness like.
 

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BaronAsh said:
xxhazyshadowsxx said:
Didn't you know OP?
Education = Money.
No, not always.

Teachers go to college, for at least six years, and make less money then my mother, who works at the post office.


EDIT: USUALLY IT DOES.
It does usually, as your edit states.
What you listed was a rare case.
To put it more.. generally, The more education you have greatly increases the chance you will make more money.
Hows that?
 

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Agayek said:
From what I've seen, people don't care about actually learning the stuff in their classes, because very, very frequently, there is little to no application of that information into everyday life or their future jobs.

I care about my education as far as getting a degree. I don't care in the slightest what information I retain in the process of getting that far, because as I said, the vast majority of it I will never use, and the stuff I will use, I'll need a refresher on anyway.
I think it's very sad that you think only knowledge which translates into a paycheck is worth knowing.

BaronAsh said:
xxhazyshadowsxx said:
Didn't you know OP?
Education = Money.
No, not always.

Teachers go to college, for at least six years, and make less money then my mother, who works at the post office.
Eh, you're overstating your case a bit there, champ. While teacher salaries vary greatly from state to state, your average teacher earns about $35 and hour, versus $20 an hour for the postal service.
 

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Mother Yeti said:
I think it's very sad that you think only knowledge which translates into a paycheck is worth knowing.
True, but the majority of school subjects are very boring information.

In my case, things like the finer aspects of literature, or the exact rules pertaining to the written word hold absolutely no interest. Yet I greatly enjoy classes on things like Calculus and the Computer Science classes I take (which I'm majoring in).

Viewing all knowledge as worthwhile is a good thing, but the vast majority of that knowledge is just simply dull to learn, and that's why I can't make myself care about it.
 

AkJay

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Because are milatary kicks ass, and besides what has edumacation ever done for anybody?
 
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For me I think it has to do with how we are taught. We are taught to parrot facts onto a test paper for most of our lives. I know that if you take some courses in college and of course the whole of university that is different, but our general opinion of education is formed in all the years prior to this, in which we are told simple facts that must be remembered word for word to fit with the mark scheme.

There's no understanding. No interest generated. To pass you just have to blindly quote your lessons. Why would anyone enjoy that?
 

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Because the school system has become a place for parents to keep their kids while at work and the main way of teaching is to throw busywork at students and throw arbitrary rules at them.

It's not education, the schools are just full of shit. In my experience you could probably cut the week to 3 days if you removed some of the crap (health classes are pure bullshit propaganda, I could teach a far better sex ed curriculum than many current ones if given an hour per group of students, and the curriculum is very slow paced and full of filler).
 

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Agayek said:
Mother Yeti said:
I think it's very sad that you think only knowledge which translates into a paycheck is worth knowing.
True, but the majority of school subjects are very boring information.

In my case, things like the finer aspects of literature, or the exact rules pertaining to the written word hold absolutely no interest. Yet I greatly enjoy classes on things like Calculus and the Computer Science classes I take (which I'm majoring in).

Viewing all knowledge as worthwhile is a good thing, but the vast majority of that knowledge is just simply dull to learn, and that's why I can't make myself care about it.
I'm sorry that you find English boring, but do you understand that one of the points of that subject as it is taught in high school - in addition to simply imparting an appreciation for the written word - is to teach you how to write coherently and form a cogent argument? Are these skills not applicable to your chosen field?

A random person said:
It's not education, the schools are just full of shit. In my experience you could probably cut the week to 3 days if you removed some of the crap (health classes are pure bullshit propaganda, I could teach a far better sex ed curriculum than many current ones if given an hour per group of students, and the curriculum is very slow paced and full of filler).
I am truly interested in knowing what subjects you would choose to throw out (other than "health," which is indeed often full of misinformation) in order to streamline the public school curriculum. Would you care to share that?