why do you think the amazing anime series Bleach ended so soon?

[Nathaniel Grey]

Me and bleach have a really checkered past. I used to be infatuated with everything pertaining to bleach, but now the comic and the anime have left little to be desired. I will never say it was ever AMAZING. On the contrary, I find the animation style very sub par. A lot of shots focus too much on facial expressions, as it is much easier to draw faces then it is to draw backgrounds, rather than working towards creating an atmosphere. What I think killed Bleach for many fans in japan is the filler. My number one rule, if you are going to do filler, make it the best damn filler you can possibly create. A majority of the fights, in the main story line and filler arcs, are atrociously bad. Fights divulge into an annoying pattern of bad guy attacks, talk for 5-7 minutes, good guy attacks. Bleach is at its best when the pacing between the dialogue and fighting is more evenly spread out. Best examples are ichigo vs. byukuya(hope I spelled it right) or Ichigo vs. grimmjow. Personally I feel bleach can take a lesson from the animation teams who work on one piece and occasionally naruto.

 

[RandV80]

Almost seems like a newer trend that anime producers are deciding to simply stop airing a show for a season when they catch up to the manga, rather than end it their own way like the original Full Metal Alchemist series or use filler arcs and major in-episode filler techniques to extend it continuously. And honestly it's much better that way, Magi is a good example of a current anime benefiting from this. It's good enough to get Bleach-like treatment, but rather than the numerous quality degrading techniques to try and stretch out each manga chapter into a single anime episode they just make a single full season then stop until there's enough to make another. I could use Attack on Titan as well, but Magi uses the weekly manga release. How many 18-page manga chapters did they use to take one 25-episode anime season? At a quick glance it looks like the answer is around 105. Just think about that for a minute and how it relates to shows like Bleach/Naruto/One Piece/etc.

Anyways, with Bleach I remember when I first got into it I started downloading it and saw their were 55 or so episodes. Burned through it rather quickly, and as I started getting into the mid-late 40's I was really confused how they were going to manage to wrap it all up... little did I know!

 

[Charli]

There's alot of other anime I believe deserved a few more episodes for every single one Bleach, Naruto, DBZ, Inuyasha and others could easily donate in shitty episodes.

So no.

 

[gigastar]

They talk about two methods for story telling, gardeners and architects, which is something George R.R Martin stated. Gardeners make it up as they go, Architects plan. Shounen by its nature means the writers will make it up as they go because of how they need to keep making stuff up to drag it out.

Bleach is an exception to this rule though. If you look back through the manga you can clearly see a number of incidences of foreshadowing and planning ahead.
The latest manga arc has even resolved foreshadowing and questions from the first few chapters.

Since Bleach was originally supposed to end with the Soul Society arc, i just dont believe that Kubo actually left those as foreshadowing rather than him just filling in the plot holes later on.

Though given how other shounen series (read: Naruto) dumps another plot hole every third chapter or so and doesnt even try to repair the existing ones without making use of the dreaded flashback, i suppose thats something Kubo can be praised for.

 

[Kaimax]

There's alot of other anime I believe deserved a few more episodes for every single one Bleach, Naruto, DBZ, Inuyasha and others could easily donate in shitty episodes.

So no.

But in the end it's not about how many episodes an anime have, but how many episodes does it need to be good.

 

[EvilMaggot]

watch 'Kill La Kill'... you WILL.. be entertained.. in more ways than one

 

[Buckshaft]

It's no big mystery why it was ended, everyone else has said as much. There's always the chance they'll finish it when the manga's over if there's enough demand. But the real question is, what comes next? Jump are still pumping all the money they can out of One Piece and Naruto (Naruto, by the way, has gotten really cookiecutter and boring in my opinion) One of their more popular Manga is Assassination Classroom (Which I love) That's got an OVA and is doing really well, though whether or not it's suited to an anime is up for debate. But I think the age of the 10+ year long battle manga/anime is over, at least for now. There are plenty of interesting ideas that were passed over before because everyone wanted the next big battle epic, and they're now getting a second chance. I look forward to seeing what comes of this.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Strange. April fools isn't for another week at least.

Bleach....I wished the creators of that atrocious anime chugged some just to spare me from that overblown magic karate wankfest. It's seriously one of those shows where I could not stand it on any level, and one of many things that drove me away from Anime in general.

Sorry, but I could not escape that damned show for years online and I haven't really understood what makes it appealing (Unless you enjoy 10 minute monologues between each attack).

 

[Fleaman]

I saw "amazing anime series Bleach" and "ended so soon" and clicked thinking you were being funny, but it seems like you're actually sincere? And no one's making fun of you? Many things I took for granted are being called into question.

 

[Pinkandahalf]

That's not really short, by any stretch of the imagination. I personally never liked Bleach because it felt like just a repeat of the Naruto formula. One person does well for a while, then the other person suddenly gets more powerful and destroys them. If one person is winning the battle at the end of an episode but hasn't actually defeated the person yet, you can be damn sure the other person will suddenly be winning the fight in the next episode.

Hold up. You're right, but that did not start with Naruto. The progenitor of that formula is Dragon Ball Z, and that is why most guys born around 1990 look at Bleach and Naruto and say, "Yeah, I've already seen that" and ignore them.

 

[Mahorfeus]

That's not really short, by any stretch of the imagination. I personally never liked Bleach because it felt like just a repeat of the Naruto formula. One person does well for a while, then the other person suddenly gets more powerful and destroys them. If one person is winning the battle at the end of an episode but hasn't actually defeated the person yet, you can be damn sure the other person will suddenly be winning the fight in the next episode.

Hold up. You're right, but that did not start with Naruto. The progenitor of that formula is Dragon Ball Z, and that is why most guys born around 1990 look at Bleach and Naruto and say, "Yeah, I've already seen that" and ignore them.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, back up. Dragon Ball Z might have been huge and all, but it hardly started that formula. What's being described is the shounen genre in a nutshell, which has existed for over a century now. The phrase "tried and true" comes to mind, though it is nice when things are twisted around every now and then.

Also, "most" people do not readily dismiss a series because of superficial similarities.

 

[Xathos]

A lot of people here have mentioned the fillers, and I can see why. I actually liked the first filler quite a bit (the one with the Bounts), but afterwards fillers were literally fillers in order to distract you. By that I mean, Bleach would stop its main story and show you 30 episodes or so of filler that should be impossible due to the state of the main story. At least the Bount Filler positioned itself after Soul Society but before The Arrancar stuff. Even Naruto with its annoying fillers at least had the decency to make them in between after the last arc, but before Naruto goes off to train (and start Shippuden). Bleach's fillers simply cannot happen within the timeline (except maybe the last one? Don't know since I stopped watching by that point), so watching them really is pointless. The ideas are all really good (Swords turning against there owners, a New Captain to replace Aizen), but fall flat.

Then with the main story, you'll have people who fell out at different times due to different reasons or who were starting to get fed up with it. Mine was during the Hueco Mundo arc where the villain was all, "My reason for starting this whole arc in the first place? LOL! I lied." Plus the main cast just gets shoved aside to make way for the Soul Reapers so often its not funny. Chad gets this the worst, Orihime didn't really have a chance due to the nature of the plot, and Uryu can't really seem to handle stuff one on one. But Ichigo, Renji, and Rukia all have great moments and are never consistently underpowered. Then the Fullbring arc looked like it was going to give them their dues, but nope! When half your main cast is there just to be useless almost every time, its not fun to watch.

There are various other legitimate reasons too of course. The Main Villain being too overpowered, some of the Soul Reapers (and villains) having some crazy stupid powers, the Main Plot dragged on too long, etc.

That being said, I always just assumed that they stopped the Anime because it was so close to the Manga it wasn't even funny.

 

[SlaveNumber23]

Bleach is an exception to this rule though. If you look back through the manga you can clearly see a number of incidences of foreshadowing and planning ahead.
The latest manga arc has even resolved foreshadowing and questions from the first few chapters.

Did they actually plan ahead here though or did they just create the illusion that they planned ahead? Because you could argue this for other Shounen as well.

 

[MeChaNiZ3D]

I haven't watched that much of it, but that sounds REALLY FUCKING LONG, actually, and I've heard some horror stories about the filler in Bleach. Short is like 20 episodes or something, not even. Mainly I've read the manga and I prefer that for the art style, which is naturally lost in conversion to anime. In fact that's pretty much always the case with series that are both manga and anime.

 

[Tsun Tzu]

Bleach? I really liked a good portion of it, the Soul Society arc in particular, but it...it's just too god damned long.

It's the same problem I have with the other big name shounen animes (one piece, naruto, etc.); it's just way too much content to plow through in order to, maybe get some kind of resolution or payoff.

I think I much prefer the 26-52 episode range, provided that it wraps up the story and doesn't fall in to the trap of teasing a second season that will never come...



...Spice and Wolf...Why? @ _ @

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

But that's all opinions and stuff.

That's a dangerous thing to have on the internet, you sure you have a valid permit?

OT: I don't think it had a short run. Like Kira said, Japan lost interest and they don't consider the foreign market when they make these things.

 

[CrazyGirl17]

Amazing anime? Really? Personally, I did like the anime/manga, but eventually lost interest... and patience. It doesn't help that the story eventually devolved into a total mess.

I think this guy has a better explanation of what went wrong:
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/ir/yrt/readright/35098-read-right-to-left-the-downfall-of-bleach-part-1
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/ir/yrt/readright/35352-read-right-to-left-the-downfall-of-bleach-part-2

 

[Coakle]

This is the most sincere thread topic I've seen anywhere.

OT: Eh, it's something you get use to. Most anime adaptations of Manga will basically tell you to start cracking some spines if you want closure. I still maintain that the worst example of this is D. Greyman. It cuts after the 103rd episode, which ends by hyping the next arc. It makes sense, manga can survive with a smaller audience, so it naturally runs longer than the anime adaptation if popularity wanes.

 

[Maxtro]

I believe the main reason the show was canceled was because of the horrible and too frequent filler arcs.

The show should have just taken a 6-month break every now and then, instead of trying to create material out of nothing.

While Bleach was very good at times, over all the show was poor because of the fillers.

Also, the last arc of the anime was bad and didn't need to exist.

IMO the show should have ended after Ichigo lost his powers and could no longer see Rukia. That would have been the perfect end.