Why do you think The Reapers did it?

[Mikeyfell]

Yo Dawg i heard you don't wanna be killed by synthetics, so i made some synthetics to kill you every 50k years, so you won't be killed by synthetics.

Soo... Before we got to know this, what do you think was The Reapers reason to do it.

Mine is thad they did it to survive. They needed technology (or something (giant plothole)) like we need food to survive, and then they goes on sleeping for 50k years. They at us like we look at cattle. I believed this because of the use of words like harvest and cycle.

That's not a plot hole.
(Of all the things the ending of Mass Effect 3 fucked up the Reaper's motivation isn't one of them)

Did anyone ever see I, Robot?

If anything smart enough is tasked to protect the Human race it will eventually come to the conclusion that it has to kill every Human to protect the ones it hasn't killed yet, because people are self destructive by nature.

I'll kill you so you can't kill anyone else. It's mechanical benevolence.

The Reaper's motivations made sense to me from Virmire in ME 1.
I always knew that's what they were on about.

I wish there was a way to make everyone read this
...Maybe if I add some BOLD text.

 

[tthor]

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[SajuukKhar]

Except it's not continually going, it's being eradicated. It's just being eradicated in a queue system. You're argument is like saying the Reapers didn't eradicate all of Prothean life because it took them centuries to eradicate all Prothean life. The fact that some Protheans were born and died without the reapers harvesting them meant Prothean life "went on". The reapers are eradicating all organic life, they're just taking a break every so often.

Except it is.

There isn't a point in The Reapers cycle were all organic life dies and stays dead, there is always some organic life alive at all points.

Which is the opposite of a synthetic takeover were organic life ends and stays ended.

I simply don't know where you're pulling this from, as it's not supported in game. While it's true that the reapers are made using the organic components of an organic race, this doesn't make them sythetic/organic hybrids. A human is made out of the same atoms as a rock, but humans are not human/rock hybrids. A more direct example would be Iron, which is something that every person has in their body, but extracting all the iron from my body and making a Hammer out of it would not make that Hammer a Human/Hammer Hybrid. It's just a hammer.

Furthermore, you're answer doesn't make any sense in light of the green ending, as if Reapers were already organic/synthetic hybrids then the third option has no meaning, since it was supposed to be this fusion of organic /synthetic life that had never existed.

In short, the Reapers are Sythentics. Period.

Its called Mass Effect 2, specifically the end, I suggest you replay it.

Also the green ending was supposed to apply to everything were as The Reapers methods only allowed for certain races to be merged, which is why the Protheans were unable to become Reaperized.

The Green ending IS what The Reapers are but without the flaws their current processes have.

 

[Death Carr]

I'm going for knowledge.
The race that created the reapers knew that they would never learn everything and to learn everything would take trillions of years. Thus they created the reapers so that they could last those trillions of years in hopes that they could learn everything that could be known. The reapers quickly realised that talking was going to get them nowhere and that the only realy way is to literally absorb the knowledge.

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

I think the problem is that the reapers motivation only makes sense to people who are a little pessimistic like me.

 

[SajuukKhar]

I think the problem is that the reapers motivation only makes sense to people who are a little pessimistic like me.

They seem kind of defeatest.

capthca: pyrrhic victory

 

[The_Blue_Rider]

Something along the lines of

*Harbinger walks into his house*
Harbinger: Honey, Im hooome
*laugh track*
Harbingers wife: Oh darling, dont come into the bedroom, im uh getting dressed
*Harbinger comes in anyway*
Harbinger: Oh you know how i like i-
*There is an organic in bed with Harbingers wife*

Harbinger: ORGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANIIIIIIIIICS!!!

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

I think the problem is that the reapers motivation only makes sense to people who are a little pessimistic like me.

They seem kind of defeatest.

capthca: pyrrhic victory

Yeah that's a better word to describe it.

Oh I just remembered! The plot to Plan 9 from Outer Space would have been a good reason.

In that the aliens were afraid it wouldn't be long before humans discovered how to make the solarnite bomb. Apparently in that movie you can blow up sunlight. But that would lead to a chain reaction which blows up the earths sun and the suns of every world sunlight for our solar system reaches. And the chain reaction would go on to every sun until the universe was dead.

Gotta say, the delivery of the aliens motivation in Plan 9, famous for being one of the worst movies of all time, wasn't much better than how they did it in mass effect.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Yeah that's a better word to describe it.

Oh I just remembered! The plot to Plan 9 from Outer Space would have been a good reason.

In that the aliens were afraid it wouldn't be long before humans discovered how to make the solarnite bomb. Apparently in that movie you can blow up sunlight. But that would lead to a chain reaction which blows up the earths sun and the suns of every world sunlight for our solar system reaches. And the chain reaction would go on to every sun until the universe was dead.

Gotta say, the delivery of the aliens motivation in Plan 9, famous for being one of the worst movies of all time, wasn't much better than how they did it in mass effect.

It would have been better if some fuck-tard didn't leak the original script, with the good Dark-energy ending, causing Casey to get all butthurt and change the ending last minute.

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

Yeah that's a better word to describe it.

Oh I just remembered! The plot to Plan 9 from Outer Space would have been a good reason.

In that the aliens were afraid it wouldn't be long before humans discovered how to make the solarnite bomb. Apparently in that movie you can blow up sunlight. But that would lead to a chain reaction which blows up the earths sun and the suns of every world sunlight for our solar system reaches. And the chain reaction would go on to every sun until the universe was dead.

Gotta say, the delivery of the aliens motivation in Plan 9, famous for being one of the worst movies of all time, wasn't much better than how they did it in mass effect.

It would have been better if some fuck-tard didn't leak the original script, with the good Dark-energy ending, causing Casey to get all butthurt and change the ending last minute.

Well, thats just conjecture really. None of us will ever know why Casey Hudson did what he did because we are just people reading about it on the internet and were never there in the bioware office. All we get is pr and random comments from people who worked there that might be made up.

Did Bioware ever confirm this leaked script was real? Ive heard it mentioned but I must of missed it when it actually happened.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Well, thats just conjecture really. None of us will ever know why Casey Hudson did what he did because we are just people reading about it on the internet and were never there in the bioware office. All we get is pr and random comments from people who worked there that might be made up.

Did Bioware ever confirm this leaked script was real? Ive heard it mentioned but I must of missed it when it actually happened.

After it leaked they said it was from an old build and some stuff had changed.

Funny enough a good chunk of it was in the game almost exactly as described.

I wouldn't be surprised if "had been changed" really meant "we are changing stuff now".

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

Well, thats just conjecture really. None of us will ever know why Casey Hudson did what he did because we are just people reading about it on the internet and were never there in the bioware office. All we get is pr and random comments from people who worked there that might be made up.

Did Bioware ever confirm this leaked script was real? Ive heard it mentioned but I must of missed it when it actually happened.

After it leaked they said it was from an old build and some stuff had changed.

Funny enough a good chunk of it was in the game almost exactly as described.

I wouldn't be surprised if "had been changed" really meant "we are changing stuff now".

Huh, Glad I missed it. Probably would have ruined a lot of the game for me from the sounds of things.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Huh, Glad I missed it. Probably would have ruined a lot of the game for me from the sounds of things.

The script also had a re-take omega part to it, something not in the game.

I smell DLC.

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

Huh, Glad I missed it. Probably would have ruined a lot of the game for me from the sounds of things.

The script also had a re-take omega part to it, something not in the game.

I smell DLC.

Yeah...most likely. I totally expected I would be doing that in the game.

I wonder if the dlc will put peoples war assets high enough that they can get those extra 2 seconds of footage from the red ending without playing multiplayer....

 

[SajuukKhar]

Yeah...most likely. I totally expected I would be doing that in the game.

I wonder if the dlc will put peoples war assets high enough that they can get those extra 2 seconds of footage from the red ending without playing multiplayer....

You can do that already........

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

Yeah...most likely. I totally expected I would be doing that in the game.

I wonder if the dlc will put peoples war assets high enough that they can get those extra 2 seconds of footage from the red ending without playing multiplayer....

You can do that already........

Really? I thought it was around 9000 you could get to in actual assets. Which is halved in value by not playing multiplayer to below the 5k mark you need.
I think the topic is being derailed a bit. So Reapers!

 

[MomoElektra]

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I find it funny you try to make the point they should just stop but dont even attempt to provide any means in which the Reapers could protect the galaxy without killing everyone.

Let's just stop there because right there is the source of one, big problem: It is not fact that the Reapers protect the galaxy (or organic life) at all. We only have star child's word for it and he is not a reliable person.

So since it is not fact would you kindly stop pretending it is?

 

[dragsaw]

well they are robots so some thing must of built the first reaper and to do things aa robot needs to be programed (kinda like teaching a dog things like siting to eating walking sleeping blinking etc)so some evil guy (evil robot makeing robot?) made the first reaper

 

[SajuukKhar]

Let's just stop there because right there is the source of one, big problem: It is not fact that the Reapers protect the galaxy (or organic life) at all. We only have star child's word for it and he is not a reliable person.

So since it is not fact would you kindly stop pretending it is?

Considering that he is the only source of information, written by the games project director himself, with no reason to lie to Shepard, and who gives him the ability to kill all the reapers......

He doesnt give much to doubt him.

It seems like you want to just turn everything into a conspiracy based on "well he must be lying" when you have no evidence that he is.

 

[MomoElektra]

It seems like you want to just turn everything into a conspiracy based on "well he must be lying" when you have no evidence that he is.

I tend to not believe genocidal mass murderers, yes. Silly me.

It's not as if we have 3 games establishing very clearly that the Reapers are a threat to organic life in the galaxy. We have a lot of evidence that he is lying or shifting the truth.

I find it strange that you believe a character simply because the writers wrote it. Cherry picking. Characters can't lie? Or be wrong? We have the council saying several times that the Reapers are a myth. You certainly don't believe them, do you?

I can only conclude that you accept the star child's/Reapers motivations because you essentially agree with them.