Why does the mainstream media hate gamers so much?

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Droids_Rule

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Basically, because it's already been through radio (30s), germans (40s), teenagers (50s), LSD/Dope (60s), video (70s), glue/heavy metal (80s), ecstasy/films (90s).
QFT.

I wonder what 2010 will bring. :p
 

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IMHO all of these people grew up with either no video gaming, or if they were lucky, mabye Pong. Video games are confusing and unreal to them. Today's gamers have mostly learned how to seperate video game violence from real violence. These people never had to do this, so most adults are unable to do this. Its like "Oh My God! My little Jimmy is talking about killing people!" when he's just playing Gears of War 2 or Halo 3 on XBox Live, or even a game like GTA IV. That rant, and the fact that 9 out of 10 journalists are drooling media slaves that will do anything for a story no matter how fucking stupid or uneducated the article may be in reality. Video games don't cause violence, Twlight does!!! You know what I mean if you read that forum about Twlight fangirls attacking... Scary shit.
 

Booze Zombie

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Mass-media loves to blame, it can never concede that an individual is acting by their own will. The evil hive mind of something is always ruining the world...
 

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Redweaver said:
My question is more "why does the games industry hate gamers". Everything is all "casual and mainstream" now. I can't wait til the pendulum swings back the other way for a while.
I don't think the games industry hates gamers, I just think that they want to expand gaming to more people, and they do that through easier and more casual games. These casual gamers eventually get more interested, and they start getting more and more into harder games and soon they're on this site too. The biggest reason? They want money.
 

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I think your argument is a little contradictive. The reason games are in the spotlight of the media so often is BECAUSE they are becoming so much more popular and mainstream. It's becoming far more socially acceptable now than it ever was before to be a gamer. Back in the 80s and 90s gamers weren't even a blip on the media radar. It's only recently they've begun to be painted in such a negative light, and it's because so many more people are playing them. The media writes about what's popular, and obviously they're reporting is effective if it's catching your attention.

Consequently this is also why "game developers hate gamers." It's because the term "gamer" now applies to a much wider audience than it ever has before, and thus in order to tap into that market developers are trying to make games for everyone.
 

Helnurath

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Fear, Moral standards of non-violence/pacifism based on religion, and nothing better to report on.
 

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The media's attention is like an evil spotlight, you really don't want it on you because then you get hounded by them. It's on gaming at the moment, give it some time and it'll shift to something else. The media is a fickle medium which grows bored easily, they'll shift perspectives soon enough.
Yes I can see the headlines now.
From "First person shooters raise killers" to
"First person shooters raise heros"
lol, yeah.

"Little Timmy learned targeting skills from Halo, and put them to good use by blowing the kneecaps off of burglars trying to raid his home. Sadly, he marred this by then teabagging the now defenceless criminals."
 

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kaziard said:
everybody needs someone else to look down upon :p take me for example, i hate people in general >:O
Wooo! hating people in general. Let's go on a killing spree, ya know just like the ones in our favourite games...

The point I am trying to make is that we as gamers are doing little to stop the media from calling us violent nihilists... then again, why should we have to improve our reputation...?

Note: my general dislike of people is caused by the majority of the people I know wearing pants on their heads.
 

Fightgarr

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Well I take it that the mainstream media sees gamers as people who waste their lives sitting in front of a screen playing out violent fantasies. I guess that's why they hate gamers.

I hate gamers because the vast majority of them tend to be self-centered, arrogant, know-it-alls who don't shut up about what game they think is the greatest game of all time.
 

WeevilStew

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no one is responsible for themselves or their children.

everyone needs a scapegoat.

so instead of looking at the problem directly, they find a easy solution the masses can jump on board with.
 

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GonzoGamer said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
Basically, because it's already been through radio (30s), germans (40s), teenagers (50s), LSD/Dope (60s), video (70s), glue/heavy metal (80s), ecstasy/films (90s).
You forgot to mention Literature (like Catcher in the Rye), Comic books, Jazz, D&D, and immigrants (of all ethnicities; current whipping boy - Latin Americans).

It's video games now because that's the most popular thing that the people who make and watch the news are least likely to take part in: most people into the network news (especially) like boring and passive forms of entertainment like the gossip that passes for news nowadays.

Politicians on the other hand are starting to back down now that they realize that mature voters also play video games. They were on the bandwagon for a while because they could blame the problems with kids, not on the voting parents, but the most popular form of entertainment. It's all about passing the blame onto a group that can't (as in the case of young people who for some reason can't vote) or won't (the until recently un-united gaming industry) fight back.

Then you can always turn to HL Mencken who defined Puritanism as "The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy."

BTW, it's not just Fox News (who is just the worst but the real sickening thing is that it has a huge share of the market which makes me think that most of my fellow americans are completely pants); all american news is useless except maybe the publicly funded PBS news programs which cover less gossip and more worldly matters. Otherwise I turn to foreign news.
Speak for yourself. In Australia we still have Michael Atkinson preventing any changes in our archaic laws governing games. For more info on Atkinson, watch Zero Punctuation.
Oh and our last Prime Minister said: "We will decide who comes to this country, and the circumstances in which they come." We have refugees who have been in detention centres for five f***ing years.

But enough of my politician bashing, claiming something is evil without experiencing it is like claiming GTA4 trained me to kill people. In all fairness I suppose it did train me to kill nameless generic NPCs in the game, though I still have no intention of taking to the streets in a Niko costume and claim games caused the octuple homicide, resist of arrest and grand theft auto that followed...
 

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The whole thing really started by a little known arcade game called "Death Race" back in the late 70's, it was created by Exidy..a development house that really pushed the boundaries at the time (See: Chiller) it was a racing game and it's only feature was running over people, pretty tame by today's standards but back then it was something.

The game was slammed by 60 Minutes, the National Safety Console, and was the first game to have a large protest against it...which, of course, increased sales. :)

Since then the media has had a odd spin on gaming, they don't seem to mind bashing violent games but at the same time have no problems talking about gamers waiting for hours fror that new system or game.

I'm always reminded of the Mass Effect 'discussion' on Fox, and i think this is more than enough evidence that the media has no real interest in doing any actual research into gaming as a whole, but instead want to grab the popular spotlight that gaming has turned into even if for just awhile.
 

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Pi_Fighter said:
GonzoGamer said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
Basically, because it's already been through radio (30s), germans (40s), teenagers (50s), LSD/Dope (60s), video (70s), glue/heavy metal (80s), ecstasy/films (90s).
You forgot to mention Literature (like Catcher in the Rye), Comic books, Jazz, D&D, and immigrants (of all ethnicities; current whipping boy - Latin Americans).

It's video games now because that's the most popular thing that the people who make and watch the news are least likely to take part in: most people into the network news (especially) like boring and passive forms of entertainment like the gossip that passes for news nowadays.

Politicians on the other hand are starting to back down now that they realize that mature voters also play video games. They were on the bandwagon for a while because they could blame the problems with kids, not on the voting parents, but the most popular form of entertainment. It's all about passing the blame onto a group that can't (as in the case of young people who for some reason can't vote) or won't (the until recently un-united gaming industry) fight back.

Then you can always turn to HL Mencken who defined Puritanism as "The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy."

BTW, it's not just Fox News (who is just the worst but the real sickening thing is that it has a huge share of the market which makes me think that most of my fellow americans are completely pants); all american news is useless except maybe the publicly funded PBS news programs which cover less gossip and more worldly matters. Otherwise I turn to foreign news.
Speak for yourself. In Australia we still have Michael Atkinson preventing any changes in our archaic laws governing games. For more info on Atkinson, watch Zero Punctuation.
Oh and our last Prime Minister said: "We will decide who comes to this country, and the circumstances in which they come." We have refugees who have been in detention centres for five f***ing years.

But enough of my politician bashing, claiming something is evil without experiencing it is like claiming GTA4 trained me to kill people. In all fairness I suppose it did train me to kill nameless generic NPCs in the game, though I still have no intention of taking to the streets in a Niko costume and claim games caused the octuple homicide, resist of arrest and grand theft auto that followed...
Yes I should've said I was just talking about America.

Yea, isn't Atkinson the reason I can only get Generic drugs in Fallout 3?

The pharmaceutical industry in the US owns so many politicians I'm surprised they didn't get Bethesda to make our version with the real drug names.

Incidentally, I do have a Niko costume; it's my regular clothes.
 

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I see it as this, the gaming industry is growing faster than any other form of entertainment, TV, Hollywood, mainstream media stuff. So they feel threatened. The only way that they can do anything is to try to appeal to the grandparents and parents of up and coming games to scare them away from buying games for their children based on media stories.

I honestly think the best journalist out there is John Stweart and the Daily Show, which is sad.
 

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