Why hasn't the HAL been invented yet?

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Barziboy

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Come on guys, lets face it.

We have Skynet forming on the Horizon, some form of Big Brother in Guildford, England (The Airstrip One-kind), and I can speak into my laptop and it will write what I tell it to...

So why haven't we got the whole HAL thing down yet. I'd be definitely up for it, even if the Murdering feature was included, just that suave voice would raise the roof at any of your crazy sexy parties...I bet HAL makes a good Martini.

Anyway, would you go for it?
 

DeadlyYellow

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No. I hardly use power tools over the manual counterpart, so why would I place more reliance on machines?
 

2xDouble

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You, uh.. SAW 2001: A Space Odyssey right? That's why.

But seriously, We've made so many killer AI's (HAL; SkyNet; The Matrix; I,Robot; GLaDOS; etc...) in sci-fi that it makes sense engineers would be hesitant to fully develop one.
 

Jaded Scribe

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2xDouble said:
You, uh.. SAW 2001: A Space Odyssey right? That's why.

But seriously, We've made so many killer AI's (HAL; SkyNet; The Matrix; I,Robot; GLaDOS; etc...) in sci-fi that it makes sense engineers would be hesitant to fully develop one.
^^This.

HAL will not be invented as long as engineers/programmers understand the implications behind "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave."
 

TheAmazingHobo

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Jaded Scribe said:
2xDouble said:
You, uh.. SAW 2001: A Space Odyssey right? That's why.

But seriously, We've made so many killer AI's (HAL; SkyNet; The Matrix; I,Robot; GLaDOS; etc...) in sci-fi that it makes sense engineers would be hesitant to fully develop one.
^^This.

HAL will not be invented as long as engineers/programmers understand the implications behind "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave."
Pff, right. Sorry to say that, but this would not keep ANY engineer/programmer I know from doing it.

Actual reason ?
Because we can´t.
Sorry.
Working on it though.
 

Jaded Scribe

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TheAmazingHobo said:
Jaded Scribe said:
2xDouble said:
You, uh.. SAW 2001: A Space Odyssey right? That's why.

But seriously, We've made so many killer AI's (HAL; SkyNet; The Matrix; I,Robot; GLaDOS; etc...) in sci-fi that it makes sense engineers would be hesitant to fully develop one.
^^This.

HAL will not be invented as long as engineers/programmers understand the implications behind "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave."
Pff, right. Sorry to say that, but this would not keep ANY engineer/programmer I know from doing it.

Actual reason ?
Because we can´t.
Sorry.
Working on it though.
Lol, it was a joke.

Everyone knows that any real nerd won't be happy until they can get it pulled off, just to show they can.
 

TheAmazingHobo

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Jaded Scribe said:
Lol, it was a joke.

Everyone knows that any real nerd won't be happy until they can get it pulled off, just to show they can.
Ah okay, sorry. Misread you then.
But yes, the number one reason anyone does anything in these fields is still:
"Because I can."
Reason number two:
"Thought it would be funny."
 

nuba km

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I really think the whole murder thing is the reason why it hasn't been made.
 

crudus

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We have them. We have autonomous robots(they are even built for war). We have a Jarvis like software exactly as seen in Ironman 1&2, except better. We just haven't attached them to space stations or space probes yet.
 

Nouw

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Saw Moon last night. Good example of a lovely robot!

Answering your question, why hasn't HAL been invented yet is quite simple. You know what he does, and anyone with the right mind would not create him.
 

Ghengis John

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Jaded Scribe said:
TheAmazingHobo said:
Jaded Scribe said:
2xDouble said:
You, uh.. SAW 2001: A Space Odyssey right? That's why.

But seriously, We've made so many killer AI's (HAL; SkyNet; The Matrix; I,Robot; GLaDOS; etc...) in sci-fi that it makes sense engineers would be hesitant to fully develop one.
^^This.

HAL will not be invented as long as engineers/programmers understand the implications behind "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave."
Pff, right. Sorry to say that, but this would not keep ANY engineer/programmer I know from doing it.

Actual reason ?
Because we can´t.
Sorry.
Working on it though.
Lol, it was a joke.


Everyone knows that any real nerd won't be happy until they can get it pulled off, just to show they can.

Well I thought it was funny. I was going to say something like it myself.
 

ShadowKatt

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Okay, so while 90% of the thread derails off into lala land about killer machines and robot overlords having the collective nerdgasm that they're all so accustomed to, I'll offer a real answer.

Because we don't have AI yet. Right now even our most advanced computers can only thing within the rather confined limits of their programming. A computer can only hold so much data, and can only process so much. Anything outside that would be like dropping you into afganistan with hopes and dreams and asking you to make it work. They simply can't comprehend it. Until programming can advance to the point of being self adaptive, which means the ability to write its own programming to handle new situations, we cannot have a true AI ala skynet, I, Robot, The Matrix, etc.

HOWEVER, I feel the need to add that technically, HAL was not a true AI. They said so in the movie that he sounds intelligent, but that's because he's programmed to. He's programmed that way to be more accessable to the crew and that he can't operate outside the parameters of his programming, which is one of the reasons he went psychotic in the first place. We are much closer to having a HAL than any true AI, but it's still a long way off.
 

Dexiro

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If you want the serious answer, we don't have the technology yet :c

To make AI as smart as a human you'd need a computer like 100x larger and faster than what we have today. And even then comes the matter of programming that computer to be able to learn the same way we do, we don't even know exactly how the brain works yet.

Science people are working on it though. We have robots that can learn by being shown an item and being told it's name, then they can tell you the name of similar objects as well :3
 

Midnight Crossroads

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We haven't produced a workable theory on consciousness yet, let alone the ability to program one. All the money in the world with the greatest minds could only produce a very impressive, very expensive calculator with very complex functions. And in the span of time it took to create such a device, several million superior models will have been produced by bored teenagers with a bottle of Jack Daniels.
 

Erana

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Why is everyone so mean to HAL? He wouldn't have hurt anyone if humans hadn't been so mean as to give him contradictory orders.
 

teqrevisited

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Cold logic does not apply to the way we work. Even if we could program an AI to the same level as that of any of the given examples, we could never give it enough rational thought.

The guys that eventually do program one might think they've covered every possible train of thought, but with the powerful hardware we have now it would take seconds for it to come across a loop-hole, one tiny missed area of reason, and the people it's in charge of are reduced to foul-smelling puddles on the floor.