Why Homosexuality Should be Banned

[James Joseph Emerald]

That it is irrelevant what society thought, thinks or will ever think, as we aren't talking about how the human being/the society changes the world, but how it "should" be. The human can't change nature.
Wow, we're going offtopic here...

So you're saying that "nature" is an unchanging constant that society and/or culture falls outside of? That would make sense, except by the very act of framing it with the word "nature" (language being a social construction) you're placing the limits of "civilised" understanding onto the very concept you're trying to abstract away from it.

The problem is that "nature", "natural" and "unnatural" will always exist relative to civilisation (as its proposed antithesis). For example, what is "natural" to the tribesmen of Papa New Guinea will differ enormously to what you believe is "natural" (e.g. they believe it to be absolutely deplorable and disgustingly unnatural that Westerners bury our dead, hiding them away like we're ashamed or terrified of death, which is a natural process).

 

[Sizzle Montyjing]

That just made me laugh
I have an interesting theory on the subject matter though...
Are more people becoming Homosexual or is Homosexuality just becoming easier to admit to?
And if more people are Homosexual then is that natures way of population control?
Don't take me for a Hater of Homosexuals, i believe in equality for everyone.

 

[deserteagleeye]

Thank you for posting this. I was going to find a gif or youtube video to express myself but as long as you know that I appreciate it, that's fine.

 

[VanTesla]

Good scit.

 

[JamesJackWalshe]

I really loved this video, it really made some valid points about the issues that face homosexuality in America and in fact in most of the world. Most (if not all countries) have people in large numbers who believe that homosexuality is bad or sinful, which is fine because it's their opinion but when they have to try and force it down the throats of others who aren't interested then it just becomes wrong and selfish, because they are telling other people how to live their lives just because they don't like it.

 

[exessmirror]

guy is an idiot, i had to laugh

 

[BrionJames]

Was it me or did that guy have two fuzzy caterpillars for eye brows? Kidding, I agree we like George Carlin said, "...I believe we should have all rights, or no rights at all."

 

[VanTesla]

I really loved this video, it really made some valid points about the issues that face homosexuality in America and in fact in most of the world. Most (if not all countries) have people in large numbers who believe that homosexuality is bad or sinful, which is fine because it's their opinion but when they have to try and force it down the throats of others who aren't interested then it just becomes wrong and selfish, because they are telling other people how to live their lives just because they don't like it.

I love the hypocrisy of the people against gay rights, that by giving such rights would undermine their rights... or they feel like their being some how persecuted...

 

[Sleekgiant]

I found this video and thought I'd share. Pretty old now, but I've only seen it today.

What do you think?

I thought it was great. The (sarcastic) points were pretty funny and actually hold up nicely as counterpoints to a lot of anti-homosexuality arguments. The editing was a tad annoying, but whatever.

Oh lord that was funny ^^

Thanks for sharing this otherwise I would have never seen it.

 

[RedxDecember]

I say do what makes you happy, and this video smashed anyone's counter arguements on gay marriage. Great video.

 

[kurokotetsu]

Lovely video. Great use of sarcasm that I hope that will show some people how stupid those argumetns are.

 

[funguy2121]

I found this video and thought I'd share. Pretty old now, but I've only seen it today.

What do you think?

I thought it was great. The (sarcastic) points were pretty funny and actually hold up nicely as counterpoints to a lot of anti-homosexuality arguments. The editing was a tad annoying, but whatever.

OP, this thread has been done and done. This exact thread, with the same video. Why not use the seachbar, and then add to that thread instead? Or maybe another "What's up with the ponies?" thread?

 

[Vault Girl]

The condescending attitude doesn't help your cause. Your suggesting, as you did to Snowy Rainbow that the only reason people do what we do is because of emotions. I've seen Equilibrium and since your saying it's evidence of emotions going out of control then your solution to the problem is we either stop feeling all together or just put humanity out of its misery right now. that's a very black and white and nihilistic point don't you think? I'm not saying your view is wrong, your just not giving a logical base for it.

That's a quite big misunderstanding. My view on this is the following:
"As long as people have free minds, there will always be people who think differently* than others. That's the price we pay for freedom and I'm willingly paying it."
*I use the word different here instead of evil,wrong,..., because it's objective.
The same goes for emotions, but that's OT.

While that was getting off topic, Just by saying Homosexuality may be, in terms of a natural law philosophy, be technically unnatural. But there is nothing to suggest that it's wrong. getting in to semantics just makes the debate lose most of its meaning

Look through my posts and tell me where I said it's "wrong". You won't find any for two reasons:
1st. I've never said something like this, because I...
2nd. ...don't share this opinion. Mine is what you've just said. It's "technically unnatural", nothing more BUT nothing less aswell. I, personally, don't care and I won't offend a gay until he offends me.

One last note:

[...]But there is nothing to suggest that it's wrong.[...]

That statement of yours is not true. You can't say what's "wrong" and what's "right", as this falls under personal opinion.

I applied an ethical theory to suggest it was technically unnatural, not engaging with word play. Your proposing an investigation akin to Meta-ethical discussion, in terms of an emotive proposition. I'll concede that my saying it was wrong was an meta ethical slip and apologize for it. However The fact that you were arguing semantics and not for ethical reasoning does not provide a constructive argument.

In Terms of Thomas Aquinas Natural Law, the act of homosexuality is only unnatural because it does not produce children, while fully suggesting that feelings are not unnatural.

And "I won't offend a gay" might be considered offensive, since your being objective.

 

[RedxDecember]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZZsy-ivVKU&feature=fvst

Funny as hell.

 

[Vault Girl]

And "I won't offend a gay" might be considered offensive, since your being objective.

Sorry for that. Let me correct it.
"I won't offend or harm a person with a different sexual orientation, as long as that person respects mine."
That should be fine.
Anyway, I think we two went quite a bit offtopic here.

Maybe just a tad.

 

[Alssadar]

Arrived with a sigh, expecting a troll.
Read some comments before watching video, made me interested.
Watched video, laughed.
Sarcasm is the best form of mockery.

Captcha: Gaturr Career
Is that what Alligators have?

 

[Simeon Ivanov]

I hope he's being sarcastic

 

[VanTesla]

Evolution is fine and dandy until the current batch decide they're the best. Then, anything different is considered "wrong".

Magneto was right!