Mimsofthedawg said:
Snowy Rainbow said:
Mimsofthedawg said:
Snowy Rainbow said:
Mimsofthedawg said:
I'm failing to see your point here. Bad thing have happened and do happen to people. Yes. And? Because one group had it rough no other group who is also being beaten and murdered can wish to fight for their rights?
The world doesn't work that way.
My original point was clearly defined: Homosexuals have every right to fight for their rights, but it's not the same as racial discrimination.
Of course it is. One is the treatment of an individual or a people based upon their race. The other is the treatment of an individual or people based upon their sexuality.
Your baffling. But I'm not going to argue with you. Frankly, I'm thankful you don't understand what I'm talking about. no one should.
As a sociology student, I'm going to try anyway.
First of all, I wholeheartily support the equal rights for every human being, regardless of gender, race, income, intelligence, sexual preference, age and beliefs. That's coming straight from the first line of our constitution and I personally think every civilised country should make it part of their constitution.
On the race issue: (sorry for going off topic)
Mimsoftthedawg, I think that the majority of the people that post here can actually understand the picture you described earlier about the discrimination of the Native American People. Despite the fact that majority of us, including me, never experienced it firsthandedly, we can vision it because of global media that are available to us. There are other people/social groups that live in similar or worse conditions over the globe. There are for example, the untouchables that live in Japan, Korea and China, (all with different names and societies), tribes in Africa that are basically enslaved and children that are forced to work as soldiers or prostitutes. Just some examples; Except for the child soldiers and prostitutes, none of these issues and plights are very well known in the Western world.
To the objective eye, there are many similarities (and also differences) and therefore its easy and typical human behaviour to compare your social group to others. I'm certainly not saying "that it's not so bad"; quite the contrary. As I said, I support equal rights for every human being, but that includes no special treatment as an excuse for social groups.
If we think about it, a lot of social groups that have been hit hard over the course of history and feel discriminated against, feel the need to voice themselves. No matter whether it's the Jews, Negroid population, Hispanics or Native Americans. All these groups feel special/unique, which also makes them a strong, but seperate group. Because there are so many social groups that feel left out, they feel like they have to adapt their behaviour to stand out, because each social group still wants (and will fight for) its own place in the bigger group, which is (global?) society.
In other words, with all due respect Mimsoftdawg, like you said, you don't want to be understood, because you feel that is what makes you or your group special and stand out. You don't want to be compared with other social groups, because despite a lot of similarities, you want to be acknowledged as part of your peer group. Unfortunately, this form of antagonal and sometimes provoking behaviour isn't unique in its own way.
Again, i sympathise with your plight, but do not close your eyes for the misery others have in the world. After all, the world is still a ****** place to live in for the vast majority of the population. Also, finding (peaceful) measures to improve your life standard will be more productive than reminiscending over the past. I believe that you also used events in your story that happened way before you were born. Eventually, a social group will have to abandon its "victim role" in its way to equality.
Hope that was helpful. A Dutch sociology student.