Why i hate fallout 3.

[Kif]

I liked it, not a lot, but I thought it was worth the money and enjoyable. The only thing that I found to be annoying is some of the object designs intrude with combat, in the sense that visually your gun is aiming over or around something that you are behind yet when you fire the bullet hits an invisible barrier around the object.

I think you're just being a bit petty on some points tbh, but it's all personal opinion and I can stand by that. I would be interested to know what you do like outside of Oblivion, maybe sci-fi just isn't your scene?

 

[cheatking]

I will agree that elder scrolls is better than fallout but i wont agree with the fact that fallout is crap. There are key things in fallout that i would love for them to bring over into the elder scrolls series:
1) the leveling system- no need to sleep and exp is gained from doing multiple things e.g disarming traps
2) Skill points- I liked the way that u could allocate your points instead of them being added retroactively for grinding a skill.
3) Perks- This made the game reach new levels of fun for me. More gore, a friend to help in combat, find more ammo, quicker leveling and tonnes more that changes the game you play. The idea of perks in elder scrolls sounds good to me.
3) VATS- Dont see how it would work in elder scrolls but i still like VATS. An instant "make me look awesome" button to impress your friends is always fun.

 

[AlexanderAstartes]

It seems a little silly to pick up a Fallout game if you don't like Retrofuturism. There is a reason that the America of Fallout remains much like America of the 1950s, in fact this is explained in the game/manual. Furthermore, almost all of the enemies encountered are classic Fallout creatures. I think you should have probably done some research into the Fallout games, or played the first two, before buying this.

On a personal note, I thought the voice acting far surpassed Oblivion. There was atleast some variety in Fallout. I enjoyed both games, but Fallout 3 is far more complete as a package. The controls are tighter, the environments more diverse and varied. Again though, this is just my own opinion. Maybe it's because I had such a great time in Morrowind that I prefer Fallout to Oblivion. Similar appearance; all that brown.

Atleast there are no bloody Cliff Racers in Fallout though...

 

[GrinningManiac]

1. Fair enough, I hate supermutants too. Might as well give them named like "Ungk" and call them Orks

2. The whole point of the series is the fear of fallout and nuclear war in the 1950s during the cold war. the game plays on the fears of that time period, and shows what it could have been like. It's not an actual possible future, it's a relisation of 50s fears

3. I haven't played oblivion, though I agree the quality of voicing flucuates. the off-screen mother sounds a bit too "happy but tired" for someone who just came out of labour. She isn't even gasping for breath unless she's actually speaking.

4. yeah

5. stupid name, true, but awesome suit of armour and Optimus Prime is on their side!

6. The whole point of that was that they didn't want it to be a FPS at all. Giving you gunsights is like them just sying "Fine, shoot the damn thing, see if we care anymore". They wanted something different. It's a tad stupid though, I agree.

7.Story, what story? Oh, that old thing. Just ignore him, son, he'll go away soon enough, now go find the fun stuff, ignore that silly plot

 

[Slash Dementia]

1. I am a massive Oblivion fan (insanely modded of course), but I still played vanilla oblivion and enjoyed it immensely. As such I was optimistic for fallout 3. In comparison to Oblivion, Fallout 3 has worse environments, less immersive scenery and what I call 'ridiculous' wildlife. I mean, somehow I expected it to be more realistic. Super mutants look absurd and speak ridiculously. There are crab things and giants. I thought hundreds of years of radiation would have made things look, well, more deadspacey. Not make them stronger.

I agree, that took away a lot of immersion.

2. Retrofuturism: This is purely personal taste but the I can't stand the 1950s theme of the game. I mean, I understood it, I figured the bombs fell in the 1950s. But when I was informed the bombs sometime in our future in made no sense whatsoever. I just don't get the 1950's theme when culture developed way more past the 50s.

Me neither, the 50s theme just ruined it for me. It's one of the reasons I don't really like Bioshock either. I wondered why it was there when the bombs dropped way after...

3. The voice acting is worse than oblivions, and that's saying something.

I'd say it's about the same.

4. I CANT JOIN THE BAD GUYS!!!! I completely agreed with what the enclave was doing, screw the irradiated and save what's left of the world. But you can't join them, what's up with that?!?!
Oblivion had so many factions to join, you could really play how you wanted to. That brings me to 5.

There was little to do in Fallout 3. I don't remember being able to join any faction besides the Brotherhood of Steel.

5. Ok, seriously, who thinks that the 'Brotherhood of Steel' is a cool name? It sucks. Its an awful name for the people you have to join. It reminds me of the homosexual steel mill workers from 'The Simpsons'.

Heheh.

6. This is a pet hate but; in any game with guns: THERE SHOULD BE IRONSIGHTS!!!!! I get so annoyed when I right click to raise the gun to my eye level and it doesn't happen. That is such a big immersion killer for me. I know its not an FPS..... but still, it drives me insane. Any good game with guns has sights of some kind. And snipers don't count, I need that ability for all weapons except the obvious ones (big ones). EH!

Oi, the shooting engine was horrid. I actually had to use the stupid VATS to shoot something.

7. I couldn't get immersed in the story because I had discovered within 2 hours of the game that its setting was so ridiculous that I just didn't care. Sure I was mildly impressed with the tutorial and saw some realism ( I think) in the poorly named RAD ROACHES but when you get outside...the guns have no sights and the environment is insanely dull.
Yes I blew up megaton, and thought it was boring. Then I killed everyone in that tower because I didn't care. The story just didn't pull me in, it may have worked wonders for you, but for me it was all too far fetched.

Another thing I agree with you in.

 

[MrDutch]

When i think of a post nuclear world, fallout 3 did a good job at making that real. Everyting is dead or mutated into something very ugly.

The voice acting is slightly better then in oblivion. With more voice actors. But still not very good.

You coudn't join the bad guys in oblivion either. Yes, you could join the dark brotherhood but that was not related to the main quest.
The fact is that you can't join any factions in the game except for the manditory brotherhood of steel. And that is a bit of a downside i guess.

When i read about the iron sight, i thought: yeah, that would be a good thing to have in fallout. But the fact that you made me think of that means that i didn't miss it the entire game, and i have played a lot of FPS's.

Fallout 3 in my opinion is a great great game.

 

[Iwamori]

I guess it takes a certain person to like fallout 3, or nastalgia allows you to look past the flaws and just take in the fallout universe. I assume you've never played the old fallout games, which were classics. Since you've never played the old fallout games or know any of the lore the 1950s theme doesn't make any sense to you.

In the fallout universe, all oil and fossil fuels ran out, so we developed fission and nuclear power to the point of everything was nuclear powered. The 50s were all about box shaped robots and nuclear power, so in this alternate universe the 50s style never ended. If it was based off of modern tech there wouldn't be lasers, plasma rifles, mini nuke launchers, and robots. Which would be lame.

 

[DalekJaas]

I guess it takes a certain person to like fallout 3, or nastalgia allows you to look past the flaws and just take in the fallout universe. I assume you've never played the old fallout games, which were classics. Since you've never played the old fallout games or know any of the lore the 1950s theme doesn't make any sense to you.

In the fallout universe, all oil and fossil fuels ran out, so we developed fission and nuclear power to the point of everything was nuclear powered. The 50s were all about box shaped robots and nuclear power, so in this alternate universe the 50s style never ended. If it was based off of modern tech there wouldn't be lasers, plasma rifles, mini nuke launchers, and robots. Which would be lame.

Thats helpful in explaining it. No I've never played the other games. Although I've heard Fallout 3 is a let down in comparison to 2. But once again I don't know.

 

[woodduck_406]

I will agree that elder scrolls is better than fallout but i wont agree with the fact that fallout is crap. There are key things in fallout that i would love for them to bring over into the elder scrolls series:
1) the leveling system- no need to sleep and exp is gained from doing multiple things e.g disarming traps



the leveling system in oblivion made much more sense than fallout. The more you use a certain skill the better you get with it i and sure that you dont have to sleep to level up is cool but just oblivions leveling system made more sense in my opinion. btw getting exp for disarming traps and unlocking doors is pretty sweet

 

[tomvw]

From what I understand, the things you don't like (aside from a few nitpicks) are the setting and theme of Fallout in general.
I personally had more fun with Fallout 3 than I did with Oblivion, but that's just me.

 

[OuroborosChoked]

Pssst! Fallout 3 isn't Oblivion. It's a Fallout game... or trying to be one anyway.

Get over it.

 

[Hyper-space]

Lets be clear, I don't like Fallout 3. Where ever it fell out of, it wasn't a nice place. But allow to express my reasons:

*note: I am completely unfamiliar with other Fallout games.

1. I am a massive Oblivion fan (insanely modded of course), but I still played vanilla oblivion and enjoyed it immensely. As such I was optimistic for fallout 3. In comparison to Oblivion, Fallout 3 has worse environments, less immersive scenery and what I call 'ridiculous' wildlife. I mean, somehow I expected it to be more realistic. Super mutants look absurd and speak ridiculously. There are crab things and giants. I thought hundreds of years of radiation would have made things look, well, more deadspacey. Not make them stronger.

i thought fallout had great scenery and did pretty well (considering that this is a nuclear wasteland, not tamriel), and why are you complaining about mutated crabs? they actually managed to be scary every now and then. and yes the super mutants are supposed to speak ridiculously.

2. Retrofuturism: This is purely personal taste but the I can't stand the 1950s theme of the game. I mean, I understood it, I figured the bombs fell in the 1950s. But when I was informed the bombs sometime in our future in made no sense whatsoever. I just don't get the 1950's theme when culture developed way more past the 50s.

the 1950's setting was a breaeth of fresh air from all the other generic futuristic settings that litter the gaming-world.

3. The voice acting is worse than oblivions, and that's saying something.

WHAT?!

4. I CANT JOIN THE BAD GUYS!!!! I completely agreed with what the enclave was doing, screw the irradiated and save what's left of the world. But you can't join them, what's up with that?!?!
Oblivion had so many factions to join, you could really play how you wanted to. That brings me to 5.

you can join the slavers and also the talon company. it seems you haven't played the actual game.

5. Ok, seriously, who thinks that the 'Brotherhood of Steel' is a cool name? It sucks. Its an awful name for the people you have to join. It reminds me of the homosexual steel mill workers from 'The Simpsons'.

brotherhood of steel IS a cool name, why are you even playing fallout when you dislike EVERY single bit that made the fallout series original.

6. This is a pet hate but; in any game with guns: THERE SHOULD BE IRONSIGHTS!!!!! I get so annoyed when I right click to raise the gun to my eye level and it doesn't happen. That is such a big immersion killer for me. I know its not an FPS..... but still, it drives me insane. Any good game with guns has sights of some kind. And snipers don't count, I need that ability for all weapons except the obvious ones (big ones). EH!

are you playing the console or PC version? cause on the PC, you HAVE ironsight.

7. I couldn't get immersed in the story because I had discovered within 2 hours of the game that its setting was so ridiculous that I just didn't care. Sure I was mildly impressed with the tutorial and saw some realism ( I think) in the poorly named RAD ROACHES but when you get outside...the guns have no sights and the environment is insanely dull.
Yes I blew up megaton, and thought it was boring. Then I killed everyone in that tower because I didn't care. The story just didn't pull me in, it may have worked wonders for you, but for me it was all too far fetched.

WHATS SO RIDICULOUS WITH THE STORY!!!!!!!!
the story is great and immersive.
I will say that one of the few parts of the game I liked was in the virtual reality land with your dog dad, but that got boring quickly too.[/quote]

In conclusion, I don't like Fallout 3, I really, really don't. I'm sure people will flame me or whatever but remember this is purely personal opinion.[/quote]
again, why are you playing fallout 3 when you "don't get" the environment, the setting, and basically everything about the fallout series.

 

[Arkzism]

1.
Well and trees are supposed to beone of the first things back... plus it plays on all the radiated monsters from the 80s and hell even the kaiju insane impossible creatures from fiction...

2.
SO Why in the hell did you pick this game up... was it cause of the comapany

3.
most video game voice acting sucks

4.
they wont let you join cause your unpure

5.
because they are pretty much a brotherhood who worships steel.....

6. frankly i love not having the cursor in the middle of the screen... hell one of my favorite parts of mgs 3 was not have the thing in the middle

7. .... really really... my god you must....wow.. not gonna continue..seriously tho how did you not get immersed


ok now that i responded to yours.... ill be honest fallout 3 is my least favorite of all of them... yeah i love the game... but im a huge fan of the series....[[its why i even bought the special edition one.. got the lunchbox and bobble head]].. ive beaten fallout 1-2 and tactics and played van buren... the world is amazing and what disappointed me with this one was... the stuff i couldn't do anymore.. i couldnt become a porn star... i couldn't kill everyone kids included... but still i enjoyed it
and this fallout as with the others.. i always have several characters...
i find the world very easy to get into i love the deco... and come on how can you not love beating a guy to death with a bat.. why a cheerful song from the 40s plays in the background
and hell i plan on buying vegas.. even if my system cant handle it... why... so i can have it... wish i could find non digital copies of fallout 1 and tactics.. number 2 is safety stored away
oh and ill be honest i never played oblivion...

 

[DalekJaas]

Pssst! Fallout 3 isn't Oblivion. It's a Fallout game... or trying to be one anyway.

Get over it.

I only got it BECAUSE I like oblivion , and as such my like of Oblivion INFLUENCED me to get Fallout 3, as is why i am comparing them.

 

[DRADIS C0ntact]

I personally had more fun with Fallout 3 than I did with Oblivion, but that's just me.

Well I second this. Oblivion didn't hold my interest for long. It just got boring to me. Fallout 3, on the other hand, I cannot put down.

 

[Arkzism]

Pssst! Fallout 3 isn't Oblivion. It's a Fallout game... or trying to be one anyway.

Get over it.

I only got it BECAUSE I like oblivion , and as such my like of Oblivion INFLUENCED me to get Fallout 3, as is why i am comparing them.

please dont do that.. it sets up for dissapointment

 

[t.tocs]

It's your opinion and that's all well and good, but my opinion is that Fallout > Oblivion any day of the week.

You say you don't like the voice work in Fallout but in Oblivion all the voices are the same...that guard over there has the same voice as the man walking to the left of me and the group of people talking amongst themselves over there...everyone sounds the same. How can you get into a world where you hear the same voice over and over.

The 1950's stuff is refreshing imo. Too many games just do the future and everything is the same. The game world is so detailed and thorough...they didn't skimp on anything. You can get lost in this game and really appreciate it if you would just get rid of your preconceived notions.

It's fine to compare fallout with oblivion, just when you do be sure to point out how fallout is better than oblivion. Fallout isn't going to be for anyone, but it's a no brainer that it does a lot more than Oblivion. And as for the enemies...come on, Oblivion has flying gargoyles, the same damn demon dudes over and over, and simple wildlife. I'll take a super mutate molerat type beast over a wolf any day of the week.

 

[The Riff]

I disagree with your 3rd point. The voice acting was way better than oblivion, in oblivion they got only two people to do the beggars, and they sound ridiculous. At least in fallout everyone sounded different. Except the raiders. They all grunted and yelled the same, just like in oblivion.

I think your ears is in the wrong place.

 

[shwnbob]

I thought it was a decent game I admit I wish you could join the Enclave but maybe they will have some DLC where you can join them.

 

[Matty819]

This is one of my favourite games. And no i havent played any other fallout game, nor do i really have any interest in them. Thats the beauty of it, i dont need to play them to enjoy this game. I though it was really immerssive actually. I cant stop playing it

And dam it im getting sick of people saying crap like "i played the previous games therefore i know better and weather its shit/good" Stuff ya, i dont care if u played the other games, my opinion is vaild because i choose to hand over the money and play the dam thing.

Sorry about that, its been bugging me for ages tho...