Why I love Resident Evil 5

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Johnny Novgorod said:
omega 616 said:
I think it would be pretty cool if each person had there own pyramid head like creature.
And they do! James has Pyramid Head, Heather has Valtiel, Travis has The Butcher, Murphy has The Bogeyman. The only ones that don't have any are Harry and Henry, and that's because the monsters they face spring from the mind of someone else.
Well, shut my mouth!

Looking them up on the silent hill wiki. Heathers's lacks a little character, Travis's just looks like a watered down pyramid head and Murphy's is kind of cool, little simple though. I was thinking more of the seven deadly sins style, you know like if Heather is vain then her tormentor would be J.S. Steinman from Bioshock (you know, the plastic surgeon), he would capture faceless nurses and mutilate them in an attempt to make them pretty.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
I don't like the whole Plaga business of RE. Zombies shouldn't talk, shouldn't run, shouldn't drive, shouldn't operate heavy machinery and weaponry and in all shouldn't be able to pass as humans.
the two games responsible for this "neo-zombie" era that we live are RE 4 for the talking, driving and shooting zombies and also not to forget, Left 4 Dead for running zombies, and for the whole first person shooter culture that brought with it.
 

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I had a blast with RE5 as it was co op. My friends and I would stay up late trying to get all the trophies for that game. Trying to kill that sleezy merchant guy after he transformed on Professional...good times.
While I don't think it really held a candle to RE4, I too had some laughs screwing around with a friend in co-op.

It's a popcorn game, and many jokes were had with the boulder punching and trying to burn each other in that giant incinerator.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
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And if he is the physical manifestation of some part of the protagonists psyche, why doesn't he change based upon who you play as? I haven't played much of any of them, so I don't know how many Mr. Head is in but I assume it's most of them as he is the iconic figure and I know for a fact there is 3 or 4 protagonists. (though, I have obviously have some ignorance here)
That's the recurring annoyance among fans; Pyramid Head keeps showing up in other titles as well as the movie due to his popularity. Eventhough it makes no sense since he's a manifestation of James guilt. Just as the sexy nurses make no sense outside of Silent Hill 2, yet they keep getting used.
I think Pyramid Head only shows up in Homecoming and one of the joke endings in Downpour (I also read he appears in a painting in Origins but never verified it myself). I think I'm mostly annoyed by his (mis)use in the movies. But then the movies suck balls.

omega 616 said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
omega 616 said:
I think it would be pretty cool if each person had there own pyramid head like creature.
And they do! James has Pyramid Head, Heather has Valtiel, Travis has The Butcher, Murphy has The Bogeyman. The only ones that don't have any are Harry and Henry, and that's because the monsters they face spring from the mind of someone else.
Well, shut my mouth!

Looking them up on the silent hill wiki. Heathers's lacks a little character, Travis's just looks like a watered down pyramid head and Murphy's is kind of cool, little simple though. I was thinking more of the seven deadly sins style, you know like if Heather is vain then her tormentor would be J.S. Steinman from Bioshock (you know, the plastic surgeon), he would capture faceless nurses and mutilate them in an attempt to make them pretty.
I think the case with The Butcher was that the game was the first one to be produced by American devs and they were a little too desperate to reassure the fanbase that they would get all they loved from the original games. So they made the game a prequel to Silent Hill 1 and Silent Hill 3 (allowing for the return of a bunch of characters), and they rehashed a lot of the monster designs from Silent Hill 2. The Lying Figure, the BubbleHead Nurse and Pyramid Head all got reworked under different names. The Butcher actually makes 3 appearences in the whole game and is a rather underwhelming presence.

Having said that I admit the concept of a "personalized torturer" was more appropriate for James from SH2. James had the kind of personality that would spawn one. Travis and Murphy... I dunno, I wouldn't think much of their personal demons. Travis's backstory is so textbook it barely factors into the game's plot, he just kind of wrestles with inner demons along the way because he happens to be in Silent Hill. Downpour's is a little better I think.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
I think Pyramid Head only shows up in Homecoming and one of the joke endings in Downpour (I also read he appears in a painting in Origins but never verified it myself). I think I'm mostly annoyed by his (mis)use in the movies. But then the movies suck balls.
They also made him all "sexy", giving him muscle tone and making him shirtless. God I fucking hated that!

In SH2 he was this creepy figure wearing a butcher's apron and with hands that were like fleshy gloves. But they had to go and give him sex appeal. *sigh*
 

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viscomica said:
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I miss cool smarmy ninja Leon.
Don't we all? ;)
Hell yeah. He was definitely more entertaining than the super-serious Chris/Hulk.

I always liked the joke fan theory about Leon in RE4. That basically the entire game is a big misunderstanding caused by Leon breaking into some random guy's house, shouting at him in a language he doesn't understand, shooting him when he tries to defend his property from a madman with an admittedly pretty sweet jacket, and then shooting up the whole town when they try to come to their neighbor's aid.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
I think Pyramid Head only shows up in Homecoming and one of the joke endings in Downpour (I also read he appears in a painting in Origins but never verified it myself). I think I'm mostly annoyed by his (mis)use in the movies. But then the movies suck balls.
They also made him all "sexy", giving him muscle tone and making him shirtless. God I fucking hated that!

In SH2 he was this creepy figure wearing a butcher's apron and with hands that were like fleshy gloves. But they had to go and give him sex appeal. *sigh*
It figures America's version of PH would be a super-sexualidad beefcake. They're the ones who threw in the token black sidekick and the token romantic interest as well.

viscomica said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
I miss cool smarmy ninja Leon.
Don't we all? ;)
Would it be too gay of me to hang a poster of Leon in my bedroom? I totally have one but I feel my poster-on-the-wall days are over.
 

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4. Somebody managed to successfully create a hybrid of Chris Redfield and a fucking refrigerator. Seriously... dude's more hilariously over-the-top muscular than goddamn Duke Nukem. Apparently at some point between Code Veronica and Resident Evil 5 Chris must have gotten bored and injected himself with steroids. ALL of the steroids.
Maybe he was playing Gears of War on his downtime and thought "I should look like that, bro..."

OT: In the words of the Dude:

"Well thats like... your opinion, man."

Out of any of the RE's (6 is pretty much a blueprint of "How do we make 5 but worse?") I would say 5 is a departure from the series to BFE.
Sure there's the "tank" controls... But the co-op partner is annoying when not playing with a friend, the arcade-ish level structure and linearity completely breaks the game's theme. I liked backtracking in the previous games, I hated this version with a passion. Oh and the tone is just... boring as hell. Nevermind the airboat, which I won't mention due to the crappiness, the bossfight on the regular boat was just stupid easy and the shooting gallery sections were just useless.
Overall it was a game that you could have slapped a different name on and no one would have cared. Because it really doesn't feel at all like a Resident Evil except for the "We has Wesker!!!" and "Oh look, Umbrella tease!!!"
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
viscomica said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
I miss cool smarmy ninja Leon.
Don't we all? ;)
Would it be too gay of me to hang a poster of Leon in my bedroom? I totally have one but I feel my poster-on-the-wall days are over.
You have a poster of Leon?? You must absolutely show it to me sometime :) For studying purposes, of course. (And no, it wouldn't be gay. Leon is beyond that)
 

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viscomica said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
viscomica said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
I miss cool smarmy ninja Leon.
Don't we all? ;)
Would it be too gay of me to hang a poster of Leon in my bedroom? I totally have one but I feel my poster-on-the-wall days are over.
You have a poster of Leon?? You must absolutely show it to me sometime :) For studying purposes, of course. (And no, it wouldn't be gay. Leon is beyond that)
I also have one of Kratos but his hair isn't as pretty.
I wonder why I've never seen poster art for Chris. Or at least Tribal Sheva. You'd think that would sell. I'll say this much about RE5, at least they went from Ashley to Sheva.
 

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Resident Evil 5 and 6 are really really fun, often amusing co-op games, they are really shitty Resident Evil games and really not fun on their own (maybe 6 is a bit?)
But the thing that made them worth playing is the co-op, they were good fun with sci-fi channel quality writing with AAA budgets.
Mercs mode only made them more amusing and No Mercy Mercs for PC was really fun.
Are they good RE games? Should they even be called RE? No! RE is a fun puzzle horror survival series that these games couldn't hope to emulate.

It's funny that DMC is a spinoff of Resident Evil as it was going to be 4 till it became too action oriented, now look what happened JUST after 4...and just after the 4th DMC game .........hm, I'd say capcom has a 4 curse but they .....wait Megaman X4 was the last really good one in the series ..............................GASP
 

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Mercenaries in co-op. Me and my brother STILL play that. It was prolly the biggest blast I've had with a video game this whole generation actually
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
I also have one of Kratos but his hair isn't as pretty.
I wonder why I've never seen poster art for Chris. Or at least Tribal Sheva. You'd think that would sell. I'll say this much about RE5, at least they went from Ashley to Sheva.
A poster art for Chris? I wouldn't like to see Chris's ape-like face in my bedroom walls everyday. Hmm, I guess Tribal Sheva would be nice (kind of). She was a cool character, and like you said, an upgrade from annoying Ashley. So I concur with everything you said.
 

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Well, I think all complaints are kinda void in light of one statement: I can uppercut Zombies and Boulders.

That's just the epitome of manliness. Not only am I killing people with my fists, but even giant rocks! GIANT ROCKS!

Honestly, I can take it all in super good fun, as it's a pretty campyfunfestsssstravaganza. Also, i'm 100% sure that the super racist village that comes out of NOWHERE and kinda has nothing to do with the rest of the game? Capcom cashing the check all the other assholes screaming racism before wrote them. "Racist huh? I'll give you racism..."

I wish RE 6 was that brand of fun stupid with kung fu boss fights, instead of... fuck me, what, a 2 hour long boss fight for everyone that gets boring as hell. Namely looking at you mr i'm a dog, t-rex, giant bug-rawr.
 
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How has no one mentioned the gift from god that was the attache case? Seriously, Capcom. Standalone attache case mobile game. Rake in the dough.

That's really my most hated aspect of RE5. Everything else gets a pass, I guess, but why no attache case!?!?!? (Then RE6 had that... weird... convoluted XMB style thing.)
 

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I used to utterly despise this game.

You know, before RE6 I absolutely despised this game. It sickened me seeing Capcom totaly leave the horror in the dirt in favor of trying to make Resident Evil into a Michael Bay film.

However

After stepping back for some time and seeing what RE6 turned out being, I actually have grown to like this game.
Now that I look at that game as the conclusion to the series, I?m okay with it completely abandoning the series horror elements in favor of action; because now I just look at it as the all out balls to the wall actiony third act grand finale to Resident Evil. And with that I can totally accept all the silliness, which took place within it. Not only can I accept it now, I can also enjoy it.
 

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I'm pretty hard on RE 5, but I can see your points about it being good and likeable too I suppose. It may be really fun in Co-op, I've only played it single player which as anyone will tell you is a nasty chore. The inventory system is just atrocious after they found the ultimate sweet spot with the inventory system in RE 4. I don't really mind the action-y Resident Evils either, after all my favorite in the series is what what started the trend.(RE 4)

Sometimes it feels like I am the only one who didn't hate RE 6. I thought it was OK for what it was. Though I will concede Leon's final boss is probably one of the worst final bosses ever made. Everything about that fight was just plain awful.
 

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Yeah, well, it would still be better for the franchise either to return to RE4 (attache case, no side-kick) or, preferably, to REmake (real zombies, claustrophobic environments).

Also, with Umbrella and Wesker gone and BOWs going on a global rampage, the story is an absolute mess. So how about Umbrella just vanished from publicity (no multinational enterprise anymore), but is still operational in the form of a swarm of small "splinter cells".

Here's how Capcom could reboot the franchise:

They should dismiss everything after RE3 as fear/ paranoia/ PTSD induced dreams of Leon, Chris, Jill and Claire. Have them wake up sweating, gasping and go "whoa, I just had the weirdest of dreams" (not all at once in the same room obviously, that would be awkward). The last real thing that happened should be the nuclear destruction of Raccoon City. Yes, that means Claire is still looking for Chris.

What is the alternative? RE7; BOWs in space?