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Moormur

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ghirmeshk said:
Moormur said:
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ghirmeshk said:
Shaenightbird said:
I'm on Sarlona too, although since I'm probably at risk for assassination, I remain anonymous. :p
Hey Shae, N,
Look me up some time. I have a capped fighter Windsheer. I also have Vernus, Ketterban and Ghirmeshk that are non-PD. I spend most of my time in Permadeath though, with Extreme Explorers. My PD toons are Kotels, Bajena, Junas, Gwak and Cabot. Please say high if you see me on:).
Best,
Ghirmeshk
Permadeath = Once dead, the toon is deleted?
Yes:).
Phew. Hard core, man, hard core. I know if my beloved Dwarf Guardian Moormur over in LOTRO were to get deleted, I would cry. But then, I would probably start up a new dwarf Guardian named Moormur, as I have considered starting him over so I can get some of the traits right from the start. And figure out that dual wielding is faster than single handed weapons to burn down enemies before level 51 (who knew?)
 

ghirmeshk

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Moormur said:
ghirmeshk said:
Moormur said:
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ghirmeshk said:
Shaenightbird said:
I'm on Sarlona too, although since I'm probably at risk for assassination, I remain anonymous. :p
Hey Shae, N,
Look me up some time. I have a capped fighter Windsheer. I also have Vernus, Ketterban and Ghirmeshk that are non-PD. I spend most of my time in Permadeath though, with Extreme Explorers. My PD toons are Kotels, Bajena, Junas, Gwak and Cabot. Please say high if you see me on:).
Best,
Ghirmeshk
Permadeath = Once dead, the toon is deleted?
Yes:).
Phew. Hard core, man, hard core. I know if my beloved Dwarf Guardian Moormur over in LOTRO were to get deleted, I would cry. But then, I would probably start up a new dwarf Guardian named Moormur, as I have considered starting him over so I can get some of the traits right from the start. And figure out that dual wielding is faster than single handed weapons to burn down enemies before level 51 (who knew?)
Yeah. It takes a little getting used to, but it gets easier. It definitely puts the emphasis on team play and tactics. Losing your first char is rough on anyone though.
 

Shaenightbird

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I can imagine so...Even though I know my characters are nothing more than animated pixels approximating some sort of life, I do get a little bit attached to them, in an abstract sort of way.
 

Gumerk

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To Antithesis...

This is a game that would have benefited from a smart automatic camera angle adjuster.
If I'm not mistaken, there is an option for the camera to self adjust to your landscape in the UI or graphics settings bud. Hope that helps ya out a bit. I'll look to confirm.

Also, to drink your potions quickly, just drag them from your inventory to your hot-bar. From there, you can either click on it, or just hot-key it for quick use. My hot-key for potions or healing spells is Ctrl.

Finally, please please please, do check out the Market Place and all of the other Houses accessible from the Market Place. These are House Deneith, House Phiarlan, House Kundrak, and House Jorasco. Also, in the harbor, is a woman named Cydonie. Talk to her to get asses to dragonmarks and such, but most of all, talk to her to learn a little of the history of Stormreach. To get to the Marketplace, talk to the guard at the big gate close to the warehouse district. Just a small gold fee will get you in. After you have completed water-works you can get in for free. What server are you on, I would love to show ya around. Take care bud :)
 

lerincho

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Gum is correct there is a setting in the control panel to have camera follow terrain.
 

Abedeus

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ghirmeshk said:
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Is it just me, or the quest difficulty shoots up after first island? Or maybe I shouldn't have left it yet with a level 2 bard...

Most of the quests I've done so far on both solo and normal difficulties. But now I encountered 2 quests during which not only I had problems, but I also died twice!

1. The "kill 200 kobolds" quest. 20 of them at a time? Even if only 1/20 hits me every round, they are are going to massacre me.

2. The "Kill the new leader" quest. Okay, his lieutanants weren't hard. But he was. After I got him to 1/3 health, he... I think so, Bull Charged me (not sure if there's such a feat here... but it looked like one) and from 23 health he got me to -2. I know it's probably because he hit me the second time after the charge, but still, double-tee-eph, mate?

Also, where can I buy some better... I dunno, armor? The starter robe (one with +20% 1st level spells damage, totally useless to Bards) is weak. Too weak.
You can buy armor in the store nest to the apothecary (between it and the bank in the harbor). You can buy better armor on the auction or once you have access to the market. What server are you on?
Thelanis. But I have enough gold to buy an armor already. But I guess that if my Nintendo DS doesn't come today, I'll try to get my Bard a bit further.
 

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the antithesis said:
One final note I'll make is the world. I'm not loving it. But then, I was not a fan of the new look Wizards of the Coast put on the game when they bought out TSR. It seems like they took the old joke "You, too, can have sex in spiky armor" that is used to describe the film Excalibur and applied it to everything. I'm no fan of Eberron. Mostly because it came out after I stopped caring. But looking at it now, I'm amazed at how little I like it. Probably the thing I like the least are the warforged you'd mentioned. I had no idea what they were, which makes it funny that they're a playable race. Since then, it's been hinted at that they're some sort of golem or magically-animated robot. Frankly, I just think they look stupid. C-3PO was a good side character, but I wouldn't want to play as him. So why would I want to play as his butch older brother? The same developer has also made Lord of the Rings Online, but I'm even less enthused by Middle Earth than I am Eberron
So, in addition to being tightly coupled to the D&D 3.5 rules, Eberron is going for a "pulp/noir" feel. Part of that "pulp/noir" thing is a setting that has just survived an ugly, heartbreaking World War and is probably on its way to another one -- think Indiana Jones or Casablanca or something. The setting has just emerged from a hundred-year conflict between the successor-states of a great and powerful kingdom. Everybody calls it the Last War, but there are rumblings of another one on the horizon. I'm not sure how much of this shines through in DDO (having never played the game), since it's set on this other continent that was basically designed to be a big blank space for random dungeons. (I believe they dumped the Drow there in order to say "Yeah, you can't play traditional FR-style Drow in this setting, please don't try!")

So, towards the end of the Last War, one of the mercantile houses discovered how to use their magical bloodline and some ancient relics they don't really understand to create the warforged. Unlike the elemental spirits bound within D&D golems, warforged are very human-like. They were basically Clone Troopers -- disposable people trained from birth to fight and die for their masters. But now the war's over and they've been granted rights as sentient beings. The real shtick with the warforged, like changelings (another one of Eberron's setting-specific "PC races") is that they don't really have their own society like D&D elves and dwarves and orcs do; instead, they serve as another angle from which to explore the human societies of the setting. They're naive social newcomers kinda like Star Trek's Data, but also war veterans and newly-emancipated slave.

Playing a warforged character is about trying to find your place in a society that doesn't know what to do with you. Of course, this being D&D, playing a warforged character can easily turn into "oh, yeah, you're the tank" (I'm sure it's even stronger in DDO).

the antithesis said:
Interesting, before this I had tried Guild Wars, which has a criminally short trial period of only ten days or ten hours. (!) While diverting, I wasn't impressed enough to want to purchase it. But playing Dungeons & Dragons Online has made me look back much more charitably as several features of Guild Wars were sorely missed and some features Dungeons & Dragons Online brought to the table didn't enhance the proceedings. At least not in my opinion. I still have over a week for my trial, so I'll probably press on with little else to do with my time. But will I wind up subscribing? Well, as addicting as the gameplay of most MMO's tend to be, I seem to have little problem walking away after the trial ends for games I do like, such as City of Heroes. So, I donut think I'll be subscribing to Dungeons & Dragons Online anytime soon.
I loved the hell out of Guild Wars.

The ten-hour trial is definitely criminally short, especially because the introductory stuff really doesn't do justice to the game -- the real meat really shines through once you're no longer busying yourself with leveling up (the levels are just a warm-up). Ten hours is less than what you could get in a single "preview weekend", and the content isn't optimized for a quick showcase of the game's most interesting elements. I guess one saving grace is that Guild Wars is so much cheaper than most of the other MMOGs out there -- I see the individual campaigns going for $15-25 online, with a "trilogy" pack for $50.

Still, even though I really, really liked Guild Wars, I'm hesitant to actually recommend it. When I played it, the game was growing with me, breaking out new areas and abilities, lots of evolution in player communities and the metagame. Now it's sort of a stable, static canvas. I don't think you would get the same bang for your buck now that I got back then -- still, it's a fun game, and I think it still stands head-and-shoulders above the others in its genre in terms of raw gameplay (though it's rather weaker as an environment for socialization).

-- Alex
 

Jotchua7

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ghirmeshk said:
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Jotchua7 said:
As much as I'm still dealing with my LotRO addiction(going for more than 2 years now), I have to say I've been impressed with the DDO people's fervour...I'm gonna' find some free time and download the trial and give 'er a shot. If I like it, the prospect of being a Drow Elf is very intriguing!

ooohhh! Converts from LotRO!! Thelanis Server... Ask for Trissa.
Will do, as soon as they sort out this latest problem and the free trial key is available again!
Ok, I'm in and off the starter island. So, far it's pretty cool...I need to investigate class customization more. Look for an elven ranger named Eruedraith!
So you chose Thelanis???
Yes, was Thelanis not a good choice?!?
There are no bad servers. Thelanis is my second home and I have had nothing but fun there. Sarlona is my home server and I love it. I have characters on all servers though. While each has its own flavor, I think they are all good.
Ok, good. Well, I went ahead and subscribed and am now off the trial. So, I can now respond to tells. Someone sent me one while I was still on the trial and I couldn't respond. Sorry to whoever that was, if that was someone from these boards. But yes, I'd love any help/advice from someone who knows what they're doing...especially in regards to class building. Contact Eruedraith on the Thelanis server ig! Thanks and see you there!
 

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Jotchua7 said:
Ok, good. Well, I went ahead and subscribed and am now off the trial. So, I can now respond to tells. Someone sent me one while I was still on the trial and I couldn't respond. Sorry to whoever that was, if that was someone from these boards. But yes, I'd love any help/advice from someone who knows what they're doing...especially in regards to class building. Contact Eruedraith on the Thelanis server ig! Thanks and see you there!
While I do not play on Thelanis, I just wanted to welcome you to the community. Don't be shy about asking questions on the DDO forums, there are always many helpful people willing to help out and give advice. Here are some great character build ideas for a new player: [a href="http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=147492&highlight"] New Player Build Ideas[/a]

Also, you may consider introducing yourself on your Server Forums, and check out the Thelanis guilds:
[a href="http://forums.ddo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=10"]Thelanis Server Forum[/a]

Anyways, welcome, I hope you find as much fun in game as I have.

-Lost Leader
Proud Leader of the [a href="http://lostguild.com/ddo.html"]Lost Legions[/a] ~ Sarlona
 

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Abedeus said:
Is it just me, or the quest difficulty shoots up after first island? Or maybe I shouldn't have left it yet with a level 2 bard...

Most of the quests I've done so far on both solo and normal difficulties. But now I encountered 2 quests during which not only I had problems, but I also died twice!

1. The "kill 200 kobolds" quest. 20 of them at a time? Even if only 1/20 hits me every round, they are are going to massacre me.

2. The "Kill the new leader" quest. Okay, his lieutanants weren't hard. But he was. After I got him to 1/3 health, he... I think so, Bull Charged me (not sure if there's such a feat here... but it looked like one) and from 23 health he got me to -2. I know it's probably because he hit me the second time after the charge, but still, double-tee-eph, mate?

Also, where can I buy some better... I dunno, armor? The starter robe (one with +20% 1st level spells damage, totally useless to Bards) is weak. Too weak.
1. Was Kobald Assault. Group area. Very fun with a group of proper level characters, it is hard to survive but can be quite fun.

2. Kobalds New Ring leader. The Ogre has the wind up strike that does a craptastic amount of damage. While the quest can be soloed, it is also best to have a group. You can hire a hireling in the harbor (by the mail box) and have him grab agro, but he wont last long either. :) Solo tactics depend on what class you were playing - as a bard you get limited choices, but charm person works on Kobalds . . . a small army to fight instead of you while you range is not a bad idea.

3. Inside the Market place (you have to bribe the guard to get in if you have not done water works) go down the steps and to the right you will find a tavern called "The Rusty Nail". There are various vendors in there that sell stuff such as potions, wands, items, armor, etc.
 

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the antithesis said:
Back to Dungeons & Dragons Online. I have not tried an especially huge number of games, but in every single one of them, combat works like this:

* You select a target
* Your character walks over to the target
* Your character starts smacking the target until it falls down
DDO is active combat, not passive or turn based. This is not diablo, WoW, etc.

DDO is more of a 3rd person shooter. With Mod 9, it should have a first person also. Does this mean you have to play with mouse twitch skills such as in Team Fortress 2, Half-Life, Doom, etc.? Heck no. My twitch skill suck. I'm a keyboard player and more than able to hold my own.

As for the sound of stuff breaking. Some areas do have bugs that happen. I find it rather annoying. This doesn't' happen very often thankfully. Also, you may want to change your sound device to use software rather than hardware in your options.
 

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the antithesis said:
Ah, so I played a little more and it just keeps getting worse. I completed the startup mission. I don't know if there are several of these, but I got the one where you're a survivor of a shipwreck and you throw in with a female cleric and her buddies to fight lizard men. They aren't called lizard men in this game, but some weird name because they think it's clever or adds something to the proceedings when it doesn't.
Actually they aren't called lizardmen (or troglodites) because they are not lizards. They are Sahuagin, an evil race of fish folk that has existed in DnD monster lore for years, if not decades.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/sahuagin.htm

The lizardmen you want to see, you have to play the game longer. Then you'll see the trogs, and hate them like we do for their stench.
 

silverdraggie

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the antithesis said:
Part of the problem is I just can never find a good place to put the camera. This is one of those things that simply drives me crazy about these fully 3D games. Things are always getting in the way, like trees or stalagmites. It makes playing nearly impossible since you can't see. Dungeons & Dragons Online is worse than most that I've played because the underground labyrinths are much, much tighter and twistier. As are the above ground areas, come to think of it. This is a game that would have benefited from a smart automatic camera angle adjuster.
That is something I won't disagree about at all. I really wish those camera blockers would become transparent. Wait till you run around some of the much much older content. You'll have the dripping slime blocking your camera a lot. I find it very frustrating.

Oh yeah, that reminds me. When you finished your first quest (the one where you can't die) you should have ended up with starting armor in your inventory. Did you not get it?

It does sound at current time that the game is not for you. Hey, that is fine. We play games for entertainment, not for the joy of punishing ourselves. I thank you for trying it.
 

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Gumerk said:
To Antithesis...

This is a game that would have benefited from a smart automatic camera angle adjuster.
If I'm not mistaken, there is an option for the camera to self adjust to your landscape in the UI or graphics settings bud. Hope that helps ya out a bit. I'll look to confirm.
It will auto correct camera angle for landscape angle only. Not distance. The camera angle changing I found to be overly annoying myself, but it may work for others.
 

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Abedeus said:
Is it just me, or the quest difficulty shoots up after first island? Or maybe I shouldn't have left it yet with a level 2 bard...

Most of the quests I've done so far on both solo and normal difficulties. But now I encountered 2 quests during which not only I had problems, but I also died twice!

1. The "kill 200 kobolds" quest. 20 of them at a time? Even if only 1/20 hits me every round, they are are going to massacre me.

2. The "Kill the new leader" quest. Okay, his lieutanants weren't hard. But he was. After I got him to 1/3 health, he... I think so, Bull Charged me (not sure if there's such a feat here... but it looked like one) and from 23 health he got me to -2. I know it's probably because he hit me the second time after the charge, but still, double-tee-eph, mate?

Also, where can I buy some better... I dunno, armor? The starter robe (one with +20% 1st level spells damage, totally useless to Bards) is weak. Too weak.
1. Kobold assult. At level 2 I'd not do it. You'll get swarmed to fast as an individual. Do it in a group. Also, look at the quest difficulty. That uses what is known as CR or challenge rating. Following DnD, CR is based on the difficulty it would be for a party of 4-6 players. CR is the same as character level. Kobold assult if I recall correctly has a CR of 4. Which means it should be the proper challenge for a group of 4-6 people that have an average character level of 4.

2. Also known as Guard Jung if I recall correctly. Oger for a boss? That was not a bull charge, but that was known as a rage attack. Long time players know this as a flipping painful (and often cheap) attack. 3 attacks, at massive damage, with a reach of attack that makes no sense what so ever. Easest way to beat him is to get to high ground on top of boxes and just shoot him. Just be warned, he will shot bad, and his shots HURT. also. Trolls also have this form of a rage attack. Your bull rush attack you'll see with minotaurs.

As for buying armor, Something to keep in mind that bards can only wear light armor proficiently and not suffer arcane spell failure (aka try to cast a spell, but you fail.) Heavy or medium armor and you'll suffer additional penalties. I'd not waste the gold honestly on getting armor. You will pull some eventually, or when you party up with people, the low level armor people are normally willing to toss you if you need it at this stage.
 

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Thanks for the replies.

I'm going to buy an armor... As soon as they bring servers back running.

As for the OP attack... I'll guess I'll wait till I get something like Summon Monster so I can flank him.

About the armors and bards - I am aware I can cast freely up to Light armor. I mean, I have been playing DnD cRPGs for some time now...
 

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Abedeus said:
Thanks for the replies.

I'm going to buy an armor... As soon as they bring servers back running.

As for the OP attack... I'll guess I'll wait till I get something like Summon Monster so I can flank him.

About the armors and bards - I am aware I can cast freely up to Light armor. I mean, I have been playing DnD cRPGs for some time now...
If you are definitely planning to do mostly solo, I would recommend picking up charm person as one of your 1st level bard spells (you can change out 1 spell every 3 days at a bard trainer for a small gold fee). You can only have 1 summoned monster at a time, but you can have as many charmed minions as you have power for. Get yourself an army of pink-hats and have your enemies kill each other. You can't charm boss mobs, and charm person only allows you to charm humanoid creatures, but in the early quests mosts of the badguys are humanoids. Just be careful for when the duration of your charms start running out :p

Also, consider spending a little coin on a hireling. There is a hireling vendor in the harbor, he is marked on the map.

As for the ogre, keep space between yourself and him. It may take awhile to pluck him down with your shortbow, but if he hits you with a critical hit when he is hasted and raging... well, it may not show your head rolling down the hall, but thats the way my dm would have described it. or, if you really want to melee, watch for when he stuns himself after he goes for the big one-two punch. You will have a couple of seconds to dance in and take a couple of cheap shots while he recovers. Also, keep dancing around him. The penalty to hit for moving may make it tough to hit, but if you keep moving you will get hit less. One more tip: be sure you open the shrine door and fight him down the hall near the shine. That way if you get your head knocked off you can reach the resurrection shrine and try again.
 

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Welcome to Abedeus

You picked two quests that cannot be soloed at your level. My advice, go back to Korthos Island and run those quests until you get to 3rd or 4th level(if you are going to solo).

You can run those quests over and over and continue to earn EXP, it just decreases as you run them each time.

You can get slayer, explorer, and rares. I hope you chose the Archivists Necklace from Misery's run. That item is very useful as you level up. It will give you around 50 spell points each time I use it. Which is nice to get back the spell points. You only get ONE shot to select that item, just one.

As a Bard, be sure to put points into PERFORM as you level up, that way you will be granted more songs to strum.

Over on the DDO Forums we have been talking about having a WELCOME to Try DDO talk for people from Escapist

DoctorWhoFan sort of has been put in charge, since she brought it up, maybe she can enlighten further. Not sure if anything happened.

My advice, put up an LFG, click on the twin heads icon in the tool bar, and state you are from Escapist and you would like some advice. And, if you get lucky, someone just might give you 10,000 platinum or hook you up with the best gear available for that level.

There are also the help channels, not not too many of them actually have people in them. I am in them on my server, but I am always the ONLY person in them.

What server are you on? I might be able to give you the character names of people that have offered to help on that server.
 

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