Why I think eating Meat is A-ok

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Vault101

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I'll say beforehand that I'm not trashing vegetarians or vegans, people dont eat meat for a whole bunch of reasons and they have every right too

but heres the reason I think its ok

Animals are dicks[/B]

no really thats why, let me explain

I think when we see animals, we admire them and also see human traits in them (ohh those lion cubs are playing! cute!!) which is also why you see talkign animals in...well alot of things

but heres another thing, I thourght that mabye we are also in a way applying human empathy and morality to animals, and nature as well

which simply doesnt work

because most of us accept that animals kill each other in the wild, we accept it as fact, in fact animals dont just kill each other, they mutilate and maim each other in horrible ways that would most of us recoil in horror...just take birds for example http://www.cracked.com/article_19263_the-6-most-disturbingly-evil-birds.html (gotta love cracked)

My point is that you cant apply the same rules we use for humans to animals, why is a cow slaughtered in a sloughter house any different to a calf getting mauled to death by wolves?

because one is "nature" therefore its ok, but because its US the other one isnt, the way I see it if youre going to stop US eating meat, why not stop a lion? (actually PETA thats a challenge..really try and do that please!)

Now I do want to say I DO NOT belive that we should cause harm to animals for no good reason, as humans in a way we are custodians of the earth and should respect the animals..and all that jazz, so no I dont belive in animal cruelty (as in homless animals, people abusing animals, or being inhumae with their dealings with them)

I guess its really the animals groups that Im annoyed with, they act is if animals are thease inocent angels who would never hurt a soul

animals dont have morals, animals are not like us, liek dolphiins everyone loves dolphins right? well they also kill porpises for fun

in other words nature is a *****

EDIT: Im not saying that animals deserve to be eaten because they are dicks, that was a joke

Im saying that nature is not all meadows and rainbows, and we arnt even eating wild animals, we are eating animals bred for that purpose, nature guided by us
 

Eisenfaust

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also... releasing all the chickens in captivity for food would get in the way of everything... CHICKENS! ALL OVER THE ROAD!
 

Diablo27

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Gotta love Cracked. But on topic, I agree with you; it's all double standards. I occasionally stop eating meat because I feel bad but I'm a firm Catholic and Jesus ate meat so I guess I'm allowed to? As long as the animals weren't tortured or treated badly, I'm okay with it.
 

AnOriginalConcept

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While I'm not vegetarian, a friend of mine does not eat meat for two reasons:
-Farming techniques are cruel
-Involves killing another living thing
Honestly, I agree with him, but I am more concerned with eating healthy and tasty food.

Animals like dogs and cats DO show emotion. Why not cows and chickens?

Also, I'm not certain what your point- any cause has extremists and people should be allowed to do as they wish as long as it does not impinge on others.
 

UmJammerSully

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Yep, pretty much my exact view, maybe minus the "animals are dicks" part lol.

I'm genuinely interested to hear an argument against this though, as I have yet to hear a good one.

EDIT: I can easily understand vegetarianism and why some people choose it but being vegan is a different story and something I will never understand.
 

Jordi

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You say "animals dont have morals, animals are not like us" and that is true. They don't have morals, so we can't really judge them for what they do. They don't know any better. But humans can contemplate the things we do and the pain we are causing to animals. That is why we hold humans to higher moral rules.

There are a couple of differences between a wolf mauling a calf and people breeding animals specifically to kill them, sometimes in quite inhumane circumstances. The wolf does not know any better, and the wolf has to do it to survive. Even when you look at animals who do it for fun (i.e. they might survive without doing that, although I'm sure it often has some kind of evolutionary purpose), the first argument still stands.

But humans don't need to eat animals. And we especially don't need to breed and kill them in horrible circumstances. And we know it. We know it and we still do it anyway.

At least, I think that's what vegetarians arguments are. I like my meat though.
 

Caveworm

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I always think of that episode of Futurama where they eat a Dolphin. They are all appalled at first, but because the Dolphin was 'stupid' by purchasing lottery tickets, it was deemed OK.
 

StellarViking

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I eat meat, and I understand that animals show emotion. I agree that animals shouldn't be tortured and should be well cared for, regardless of whether or not it's a pet or if it's being raised for human consumption, and that all vegetarians have their reasons, but I'd also like to point out the sheer number of small rodents and other animals killed in the process of harvesting plants like alfalfa for food products.

That and yeah, releasing animals from captivity does absolutely dick and will more likely than not result in the death of the animal more quickly (and in some cases more violently, wolves tend to be a bit messier with their chicken, for example) than if they had raised on a farm.
 

viranimus

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Just remember.. If they had the chance, a cow would eat you and everyone you love!



Mmmmm.. thats good Jimmy!

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Yeah, its a part of nature. We are carnivores, we are top of the food chain, it is to be expected we eat meat. Its simply one of the easiest ways to sustain ourselves. Its not like Vegans are any better, because they too sustain themselves at the expense of another life. The only difference is that the life they snuff out to survive doesnt have a face and cant scream in pain.

Also on the nature point, you must remember that many of these animals simply would not exist if not for them being purposely born into the world for no other reason than consumption. Would the cattle population be almost as high as the human population (estimates 1.7 billion) in nature and not being protected by humans?
 

Biosophilogical

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Vault101 said:
I'll say beforehand that I'm not trashing vegetarians or vegans, people dont eat meat for a whole bunch of reasons and they have every right too

but heres the reason I think its ok

Animals are dicks[/B]

no really thats why, let me explain

I think when we see animals, we admire them and also see human traits in them (ohh those lion cubs are playing! cute!!) which is also why you see talkign animals in...well alot of things

but heres another thing, I thourght that mabye we are also in a way applying human empathy and morality to animals, and nature as well

which simply doesnt work

because most of us accept that animals kill each other in the wild, we accept it as fact, in fact animals dont just kill each other, they mutilate and maim each other in horrible ways that would most of us recoil in horror...just take birds for example http://www.cracked.com/article_19263_the-6-most-disturbingly-evil-birds.html (gotta love cracked)

My point is that you cant apply the same rules we use for humans to animals, why is a cow slaughtered in a sloughter house any different to a calf getting mauled to death by wolves?

because one is "nature" therefore its ok, but because its US the other one isnt, the way I see it if youre going to stop US eating meat, why not stop a lion? (actually PETA thats a challenge..really try and do that please!)

Now I do want to say I DO NOT belive that we should cause harm to animals for no good reason, as humans in a way we are custodians of the earth and should respect the animals..and all that jazz, so no I dont belive in animal cruelty (as in homless animals, people abusing animals, or being inhumae with their dealings with them)

I guess its really the animals groups that Im annoyed with, they act is if animals are thease inocent angels who would never hurt a soul

animals dont have morals, animals are not like us, liek dolphiins everyone loves dolphins right? well they also kill porpises for fun

in other words nature is a *****
But the point is that we have morals. And those of us without revenge-orientated compasses tend to not want to cause pain to anyone if we don't need to. You are trying to justify the eating of animals by saying "They have it coming". I eat meat because I need protein, and lacking full-time employment, I don't have the financial and social autonomy necessary to make non-meat choices regarding protein sources. When I am financially and socially able to, I probably will minimise how much meat I eat, and will try and get the protein I need from less sentient food sources (like eggs, or fish, you know, animals that have lesser brain capacity, and therefore less capacity for things like pain, fear, joy, etc.

So when it isn't impractical to not eat meat, I think more people wouldn't except out of learned behaviour.
 

Eisenfaust

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oh and also... we need animals to ethically test medicines on... vaccines for cancer and the like...

freeing these animals means we can't test cancer cures
so we don't cure cancer

ergo, vegans want everyone to die from cancer

*shifty eyes*
 

BanicRhys

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I always point out that we got to where we are as a species by eating meat, why should we stop now? At least according to Sam Neill anyway.
 

Swny Nerdgasm

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Humanity spent thousands of years working it's way to the top of the food chain, to stop eating meat is like turning your back on all the hard work our ancestors did, and if you do that the Bovine terrorists win.
 

Hoplon

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viranimus said:
We are carnivores,
Omnivores as it goes. with a bias towards cooked food.

Eating meat isn't a moral question, how you treat the animals you are going to slaughter is, how they are killed is. You can't save the earth but you can save the biosphere.
 

SL33TBL1ND

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Swny Nerdgasm said:
Humanity spent thousands of years working it's way to the top of the food chain, to stop eating meat is like turning your back on all the hard work our ancestors did, and if you do that the Bovine terrorists win.
Hilariously well put, sir.
 

GrizzlerBorno

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Vault101 said:
Animals are dicks[/B]

no really thats why, let me explain

I think when we see animals, we admire them and also see human traits in them (ohh those lion cubs are playing! cute!!) which is also why you see talkign animals in...well alot of things

but heres another thing, I thourght that mabye we are also in a way applying human empathy and morality to animals, and nature as well

which simply doesnt work

because most of us accept that animals kill each other in the wild, we accept it as fact, in fact animals dont just kill each other, they mutilate and maim each other in horrible ways that would most of us recoil in horror...just take birds for example http://www.cracked.com/article_19263_the-6-most-disturbingly-evil-birds.html (gotta love cracked)
You could replace every instance of the word "animal" from that section with the word "human", and it would still be coherent. Humans murder each other all the time. What does that have to do with anything?