Why I think eating Meat is A-ok

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monken8

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you must really be doubting yourself if you had to type all that just to go (atleast from my persctive) some to agree with you and to stop that nasty moral compass thing from spinning around
Any way you are completly right and are a god among men for pointing it out
 

Suijen

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The logic is quite simple.

Killing is inherently horrible, unless it's something essential. Carnivores need to kill, otherwise they die.

We humans are omnivores, and our bodies have adapted (as have our societies) to be able to absorb protein from many different sources, many of them not from animals.

Thus, our killing of animals is not because of necessity, but because of pleasure (taste), since we can get protein from other sources.

Remember, we can choose to eat meat and choose not to. The poor can't afford to, the wealthy have alternatives. We as a society can survive without the killing of animals. I personally don't care about animals too much, and just see them as chattel.
 

Kathinka

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simple.

because if god would not have wanted us to eat animals, he would not have made them out of tasty steak!
 

Valdus

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If god didn't want us to eat animals he shouldn't have made them out of meat.

Creatures eating other creatures is natural. You only have to look at basic animal biology to know that some animals are just made for eating others. Human's aren't any different - like many other meat-eating animals we also possess sharper teeth made for holding animals in place.

Theres a reason why many different human cultures which span the entire globe all ate meat. Native American's did it, African tribes did it, People in the far east did it. It seems a little silly that we all part-took in one big coincidence. It's funny as well because if I tried to deny other natural instincts (such as sex) then I would get funny looks for just about every vegaterian I know.
 

TheAmokz

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human#Diet
"Humans are omnivorous, capable of consuming a wide variety of plant and animal material."

This is why eating meat is A-ok.
 

Queen Michael

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Eisenfaust said:
also... releasing all the chickens in captivity for food would get in the way of everything... CHICKENS! ALL OVER THE ROAD!
Not for long. Fairly soon they would cross the road. And then we'd all be wondering why the chickens crossed the road.
 

Vault101

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Moromillas said:
Vault101 said:
You have a lot of interesting points that I tend to agree with. But humans? Not being animals? And entirely different from other animals bearing no similarities? That's just flat out fallacious.
no I humans ARE animals, and in a way thats why we can eat meat as well
monken8 said:
you must really be doubting yourself if you had to type all that just to go (atleast from my persctive) some to agree with you and to stop that nasty moral compass thing from spinning around
Any way you are completly right and are a god among men for pointing it out
if youre refering to this thread..

actually no, it was the cracked article that got me thinking, because when I think of thease animals rights activists and even some environmentalists

if they had to personify animals and nature, they make it out to be some loving kind of mother,and her creatures inocent furry animals

thats a lie

mother naure is a cold hard ***** who loves chaos, her children can be savage (and somtimes gentle)

what I mean by this is its not as much a moral issue as they make it out to be, they act as if WE and only WE are cruel to animals, when nature and animals are just as cruel
 

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I'm vegetarian and I don't eat meat not so much that I like animals (but I do), it's more because I find the idea of me eating one quite vomit-inducing, also just so's you know, I hate PETA so don't make any vegetarian-PETA connections as that annoys me greatly
 

mb16

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"animals feel pain"

i can program a robot to have the traits of an animal, so it will move when being damaged, it would "feed" itself, i could also make it so that if it finds another robot it transfers coding to make a new robot. does that robot have a conscience? Is it alive?... no they are all just programmed responses just like an animal


Its like if you lent on a hot oven, you would automatically remove your hand without thinking about it. its an automatic reaction, thats all they have


(oh btw im fine with veggies +vegans, i just like arguing this point)
 

Vault101

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Outright Villainy said:
The reason I eat meat is twofold:

a) It's fucking delicious.
b) I don't feel bad in the slightest.

I agree with the OP, animals are dicks. I grew up on a farm, I work with them nearly every day during the holidays. I've seen some die right in front of me. I have no empathy toward sheep or cows. At all.
I too grew up on a farm, and it certainly does change your perspective on animals

my heart isnt completley hardened and I used to feel sad about some of it

but really... sheep werent treated THAT badly, the best of their lives were simply wandering around the paddock grazing,
PontiusTM said:
Outright Villainy said:
b) I don't feel bad in the slightest.
please picture-google "butchering" - you soon will.
dont need too, Ive seen it all in real life,
 

Jodah

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If God didn't want us to eat cows he wouldn't have made them so damned tasty.
 

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Vault101 said:
My point is that you cant apply the same rules we use for humans to animals, why is a cow slaughtered in a sloughter house any different to a calf getting mauled to death by wolves?

because one is "nature" therefore its ok, but because its US the other one isnt, the way I see it if youre going to stop US eating meat, why not stop a lion?
My point is that you cant apply the same rules we use for humans to animals
Confused argument is confused.

As you say, we're not animals; we're capable of far more cruelty and compassion than any other creature can bring itself to do, and we are aware of that. Some people care, others don't.

You (after saying the rules don't apply, lol) say that because animals are killed in the wild that it's fine for us to kill in captivity, right? But you do realise that sometimes humans get killed in the wild - is it therefore fine to kill humans?

Also, what of the animals not normally bred for food in the West - would you eat your pet dog or cat, even in a non-crisis situation? What about horse meat, if you found it on the shelf of a supermarket? If you have qualms about either of those scenarios then you're being hypocritical in that on the one hand you denounce those with ethical qualms about slaughtering and eating living animals whilst on the other having ethical qualms about slaughtering and eating living animals.

Anyway, I'm fine eating meat. I accept where it comes from and aim to avoid meats that I feel are procured unethically or at too high an environmental cost (veal, beef etc). That said, students can't really afford free-range chicken all the time, sometimes compromise is necessary. But at least I'm aware of it...
 

Gustavo S. Buschle

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Don Reba said:
Gustavo S. Buschle said:
Actually people who never eat meat have some health issues. Our bodies weren't made to survive only on veggies, humans are omnivorous, that means they should eat every living thing.
Are you aware that people who eat meat have health issues as well? In fact, no matter what you do, you are going to have health issues at some point. Also, that's not what "omnivorous" means.

Not taking sides on the meat vs no-meat debate, only logic vs no-logic. ;)
"Omnivores (from Latin: omni all, everything; vorare to devour) are species that eat both plants and animals as their primary food source."
I don't believe that anyone it thick enough to not understand that what I meant was "Actually people who never eat meat have some health issues THAT ARE RELATED TO THEIR VEGETARIANISM."
 

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Well, I'm a carnivore, but there's a massive, gaping hole in your logic that someone from any side should be able to appreciate.

Animals, by and large, don't slaughter each other on an industrial scale, nor do they typically breed, genetically alter and kill animals for the express purpose of making them better to eat. Few would deny killing animals on an individual or necessity basis is evil, most would disagree when literally thousands are killed a day.
 

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Cherry Cola said:
Why I think eating Meat is A-ok:

It's fucking delicious
This is pretty much what I came here to say. Great minds think alike!.......you're not into scat, are you? Because dear Batman help me if you are...
 

Zyntoxic

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I'm not gonna hide the fact that I'm a vegetarian, and neither am I gonna hide the fact that I certainly like the taste of meat, and least of all am I gonna hide the fact that I have no problem with people choosing to eat meat, BUT I do have a problem with people not actively choosing, because the don't know what they actually are choosing.

I'll start with me: why the hell would I skipp meat even though I actually loved eating it?
Well because I certainly love the planet I'm walking on more than the sensation of taste.
Now I'm not saying that vegetarian food is tasteless, it just requiers a hell of a lot more work to be as good as meat or better.
So what do I mean by my reason?

This is gonna be long, but if you wanna stand up for your choice of either diet you shoud know the basics of it:

The meat industry is vast, this most people know. for meat we need animals, animals need to eat, just as we do, and these animals eat crops. If you have had a basic course in biology you know that if this 'example cow' eats these crops 10 people could have eaten the energy you get out of eating the meat will sate the need for 1 person, first party consumer > second party consumer > third party consumer, and so on and so forth, for each party less energy will be given.

This will cause a huge impact on for example enviorment because of the energy needed for growing crops, transporting crops, processing them to fodder, and finally all this energy gets lost in the belly of a creature we no longe need to eat and more energy goes to killing it, processing the meat and finally transporting that too.

And aside from that the current situation in modern society is that we on top of that eat waaaaaaaay too much meat than what is healthy for us, and the widely known fact that the money saving process of actually handling these animals are horrific and inhumane causing these still very feeling creatures alot of unecessary pain and terror that a lion or other predetor never could cause these animals.

So here it is:
Is it good for us humans?: at this current rate of meat consumption, no
Is it good for nature: no, the resources required for this industry taxes this planet beyond that it will be able to handle
Is it good for the animals?: no, these creatures do not have human feelings but terror and panic is very instinctive feelings every animal in our current industry is capable of feeling.

The only good thing meat has going for it is that it tastes good.

As for the slightly touched object of animal testing, ofc human life has to go in favour of the animal, but then it is more about saving lives, eating meat is not.
Besides animals breed for scientific purposes ar some of the most well treated animals in human society aside from our pets


Natrually we weren't made for todays modern world but, we were meant for hunting with our hands, to withstanding all kinds of elements without the comfort of preheated houses, the handicapped were supposed to die so they could not breed.
Even during the time when this was true for humans, meat was actually a rarity.

Today none of has to be true for any human, modern days allow us to live culinarily fullfilling lives, not having to prey on the meat of other animals.

For me, and that doesent necissarily mean you as well, meat is not a stable alternative.

Though I see no point in hating people who eat meat, because I can see why you choose to, meat is very very tastey and require very little preperation to be so. Like I can understand people who doesn't exercise and so on and so forth, comfort is a very hard thing to give up.

Trust me, I've tried to quit candy all together and I just can't, thought it would be like meat, but for me that challenge is different.

Whether you can or even want to quit meat is up to you and I do not judge your choice, but I want people to truly know their choice.
It is only when a human chooses what he will or will not do that it actually matters, a forced upon opinon will easily just fall for another.

But if people don't start to make more stable choices, the human race will see some rather dire consequenses, but that's what it's like with choices, you make them and take the consequenses that follow.