Why is Microsoft not giving Xbox Live free?

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Tzatziki3301

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Sparcrypt said:
It's not much to pay for what you get.

I used to work in an EB - it made little to no difference in peoples choices in what they bought. Basically it went like this:

1. What their friends have (at least 70% of my sales were 'my mate/brother/etc has this one, give me that')
2. Owned an original xbox or a PS2
3. Exclusive games/number of games availible for that system
4. Price
5. The preference of the salesperson
6. Other

'Other' includes all the fan boy arguments that almost NEVER impact actual sales. The things everyone spends hours and hours debating on forums almost never impact sales to a huge degree.
^This

The overwhelming majority of customers will never, ever read a forum discussion before owning a console. Its not that they don't want to know the fan-boy opinions, necessarily, its more that they don't even know this exists until AFTER they own a console.
 

Snotnarok

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Because they like making money, no one seemed to complain with their new OS visuals with ads allover the damn thing and then not only keep charging for it, they jacked up the price.

And even funnier is they make it so hard to cancel your service, you have to call up now. They had it for just a little while that you could do it on the site then they went back to phone service.

Why do they? Because people pay for it and no one stands up to them.
 

fullboat

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I really really think Xbox live would be worth it if all games had dedicated server support.

But I pay for it, I like to stream my netflix, and play games with friends.
 

McNinja

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doggie015 said:
Ivan Torres said:
doggie015 said:
Bill Gates hasn't been at Microsoft for a few years. That explains how something as wretched as 7 could slip out.
Ah yes... the old "I'm a mac fanboy and am afraid of trying Windows 7 because it might actually draw me towards the vastly cheaper and infinitely-better option so I'll just make Microsoft look like the devil while I pay $1,900 for a $500 PC just because it's white with an apple sticker on it!" argument...

*YAWN*
Yep, I have no idea why people hate 7. I have 7, it works, and there are more games. That's all I care about, so Mac is worthless to me until I get into video editing.
I myself have windows 7... I'll bet the haters are basing their opinions on Vi$ta which was rather crappy, but Windows 7 is everything Vista should have been and much more.
The guy has been quoted about 10 times, and hasn't responded. Le Troll. I'll bet he owns a horse and still has to ask how magnets work.

I like Windows 7. I never had Vista, but my dad did, and he likes 7 far more than Vista. Me? I like how clean it looks, and how much more efficient and less constricting it is that the Mac OS. My Friend has a Mac, and i still don't know why you can't open up a window all of the way. He paid $2000 for his laptop. I just upgraded my PC for about $300 altogether (probably less, I didn't pay for the two $60 1TB Hard drives). My computer still hates my RAID volume, and constantly degrades it, despite everything my dad has tried. If I reference my dad a lot, it's because he's been in IT since the late 70's, and knows far more about computers than I do.

On topic, I paid $40 for my Gold subscription to XBL. Great investment. I now pwn noobs in Halo: Reach while screaming at how much of a failure Noble Six and his team are in pretty much every respect.
 

Catalyst6

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Hellblazer12 said:
I own a Xbox 360 and repeatedly ... pay for a Xbox Live Gold Membership
I believe that the fact that you're paying for it is example enough.
 

triggrhappy94

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Because someone has to pay for Microsoft Office developement.
You may not be able to get XBL for free, but you can always get Word, and isn't that what you really want
 

Yossarian1507

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darth gditch said:
To pose my own question to this forum, why do people feel that they are entitled to services they did not pay for? I mean, I can't go to the supermarket and say "I bought your milk, now give me a free glass and free cookies to go with it." I don't think anyone would.

Online multiplayer is a service above and beyond the primary purchase price of a console. Companies are well within their rights to charge consumers for it.
Purchase of the console - yes. Purchase of the GAME - no. When you buy a game, you pay for both the single AND multiplayer experience. I don't see any sane reason, why you should pay extra for something you already paid for. This is not a price to pay for a glass to drink milk in it. This is a price for DRINKING the milk which you already bought. If we're going to compare XBL Gold to a glass you have to buy, then sorry, I prefer to drink the milk from carton.

Allright, call me a fanboy, because I have PS3 and not X360, but trust me, if I had some additional cash, I would love to have X360 as well (I so want to play Alan Wake). I understand paying for extra goodies and features. This is normal. Free = less stuff. Fee = more stuff. But demanding an extra payment for a multi in a game you already bought? No, this is not a bonus stuff. This is removing stuff from you until you'll pay extra. In other words - a dick move.
 

Kroxile

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ultimately, its because people are dumb enough to believe that its the better service.

I have both and the only real difference is the interface you use when browsing the marketplace.

Also, as many people here have already said, Steam has everything LIVE has and then some and its free. It all just comes down to the stupidity of the consumer, which M$ is more than happy to capitalize on.
 

Azure-Supernova

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All inept metaphors a side; it's a sense of believing you get more for what you pay for. When I have problems playing Uncharted 2, Killzone 3 or Metal Gear Online I'll just play something else. Microsoft are selling a service that PSN offers for free; any complaints about having lag online with a PS3 is a result of your internet being bollocks or having your connection not set optimally.

But I'm sick of threads degrading into XBL vs PSN debates, because the same arguments are repeated page in, page out. XBL always has better service, better community, better stuff. Well can someone please tell me what this stuff is?

Before the comments roll in, I'm not a PS3 fanboy. I am genuinely wondering.
 

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Worgen said:
Valkyira said:
The reason why Xbox Live arguably a better online service than PSN is because we pay for it. Our money lets Microsoft make improvements to XBL.

That's why even though it costs money, more people are on XBL than PSN. It's an all round better service.
and yet pc gamers have the best service and its costs us even less
Jeebus! You come to the game lookin' for a fight, don't you?!
 

UltraXan

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Because the monster that is Micro$oft loves to eat your money.

With an actual point in this post, I believe that LIVE is just a rip off. It confuses the hell out of me as to whatever "community" it's talking about and the fact that you have to pay $60 a year just to play ANY GAME is just fucking stupid, especially next to other online services such as steam which just (in my opinion) wreck LIVE in every way, shape, or form.

In short, Microsoft can suck a mean dick. (You can tell how mean a dick is by how many times it slaps you in the face.)

God damn, I love venting... or ranting, whichever way you prefer.
 

PettingZOOPONY

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Amazes me to this day people will pay extra to access content that they already payed for. If I get Bf3 when it comes out but then was told it was going to cost me $60 more dollars for the year to access the Coop and MP features I would shit.
 

babinro

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I don't own an Xbox and so I can't comment on the XBL system.

However, having used the PSN, I've never thought to myself, "I'd pay money for this service to give me more features". The PSN is perfectly adequate for my needs.

I will say that the PSN far exceeds my Wii's sad excuse for online play via removal of things like friend codes.