Why is music becoming more and more electronic?
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One thing I just think about the talent thing is, while yes there are some great techno bands out there, this is stuff some lazy kid could do on his laptop while watching tv. Instrumental music takes the focus and patience. Guess that's why there's so much crap out there.. people are wayy to lazy.
Also I rarely call techno band members 'musicians'. If they are called that by me I'd give them an award.
Also I rarely call techno band members 'musicians'. If they are called that by me I'd give them an award.
if you really want to hear where electronic music is then you'll have to go to where it all started and that's the industrial genreRebelRising said:
you have bands such as Front 242, VNV Nation, Haujobb, Icon of Coil/Panzer AG/Combichrist. :Wumpscut:, Covenant and many others.
Front 242 is a band that was so far ahead of the curve i could play a song of their's from 20 years ago and people would say "wow that sounds like it's new and is amazing"
sorry but most electronica isn't very good, there is a good reason why a lot of EBM, industrial and the sub-genres are called intelligent dance music
And You forgot to mention Skinny Puppy. Although their music was not as accessible as F242's, the arrangements and the synth performances where light years ahead of any industrial act of the time (cKevin Key is a mad scientist). Yes they where loud and ugly at times (well, a lot of times) but no other band manipulated sound the way they did, no one has since. Cabaret Voltaire where also great, until they started making shitty dance music in the late 80's/ early 90's.cleverlymadeup said:
Because music like all other fads moves in circles. Techno and electric sounds were all the rage back in the day and their coming back in style now.
And to all the people bashing it your just repeating what other people have repeated every time music has changed. Music changes, period.
And to all the people bashing it your just repeating what other people have repeated every time music has changed. Music changes, period.
I challenge all the people who say electronic music takes no talent to go out and make some. Just because you use computers to make it doesn't mean the computer makes it for you.
And 'real instruments take focus and talent'? So making music on a computer is just a piece of piss is it? Give up.
Electronic music gives you ultimate freedom as opposed to being limited to the sounds particular instruments, for that reason, electronic music has a sustainable future.
And 'real instruments take focus and talent'? So making music on a computer is just a piece of piss is it? Give up.
Electronic music gives you ultimate freedom as opposed to being limited to the sounds particular instruments, for that reason, electronic music has a sustainable future.
Listening to practically nothing but electronica for the last 12 years I can say I haven't really noticed this... as my preferred genre was already "electronic".
It's always been called Electronica. And god fucking forbid people have a different taste than you. I hate seafood but I don't run into Red Lobster telling everyone how much their taste in cuisine sucks.Marq said:
Ummm, not to steal your thunder or anything but the guy you quoted referenced a band from the early 70s, all the bands you referenced are from the 80s. Electronic music has been around since the 50s in the form of musique conrete anyway.cleverlymadeup said:
PS: You missed out the most important industrial band; Throbbing Gristle.
PPS: I have to disagree with Rebelscript, "electronic" is such a vague term that it's pretty much impossible to compare artists like Tangerine Dream with modern dance music, that would be like comparing Slayer and Coldplay just because they both use guitars.
Mainstream iss cyclical, five years ago everything was acoustic Coldpay sound alikes, be glad we've escaped that. Look at the eighties and you'll see that popular music has a long way to go before it's as electronic as it used to be.Craig FTW said:
Electric instruments have only existed in any useful numbers in the last 60 years (since the end of WW2), so they're still very much new and still being explored, there's more scope for innovation with electronics than actual instruments. So the cutting edges of music is increasingly electronic led.
Having said that, electronics aren't all that prevalent in current music, I think you're just being exposed to a lot of it through your friend.
I've always loved electronic music, so to me this is a very, very good thing.
...until it becomes the most popular genre and becomes diluted by so much piss I'd be better off listening to cats murder each other..
It's still a really good genre though.
...until it becomes the most popular genre and becomes diluted by so much piss I'd be better off listening to cats murder each other..
It's still a really good genre though.
Everything is becoming more electronic for example some people go straight to eclectric guitars when learning guitars which is fine but I personally think it is better to start off with an acoustic with hard strings but that is just me.
Also I asked this guy why he did not like acoustic guitars and prefered electric he simply replied they are to acoustic. So people are just dumb stupid sheeple.
Also I asked this guy why he did not like acoustic guitars and prefered electric he simply replied they are to acoustic. So people are just dumb stupid sheeple.
well here, lets put you in a van, with 7 other people, a crap load of glow sticks, an Ipod and it's midnight.
That was what happend at a camp, we where listening to a hell of a lot of Techno we where bashing on on the celing, the walls, trowing flash lights, we had 2 strobe lights, it was amazing.
That was what happend at a camp, we where listening to a hell of a lot of Techno we where bashing on on the celing, the walls, trowing flash lights, we had 2 strobe lights, it was amazing.
The thing that kind of irks me is that when you say electronic music people tend to think "DJ music" or "club music". BIG MISTAKE!! I really loved that Tangerine Dream example you used because it describes a lot of peoples attitude towards that style of music. I played some tunes I've been working on with my new Korg EMX-1 to a friend of mine, and this guy is so biased against electronic music that his only critique was that it doesn't sound good because it doesn't have some "real" instruments on it... The only response I could think of was, seriously:speedcoreXdandy said:
"Can you do something for me then, take that synth lead an try to replicate it on pattern 5; careful with the oscillator 1 knob though cause you don't want to set the timbers too high or too low, you'll be in dissonance with the base line". Of course he gave that "what the fuck are you talking about" look. Hope I made my case.
anyone who thinks that you just "press a button" to create electronic music is a goddamn moron. In order to make a good electronic song, you've gotta look at samples, loops, and such, but you've also got to arrange them, know a fair bit about production, get the right gear, have a sound in mind that you want to achieve (YES ELECTRONIC MUSIC CAN BE ATMOSPHERIC), and so on and so on.
making good electronic music is like making good acoustic music, only the tools are different.
I don't even listen to it and even I know that
making good electronic music is like making good acoustic music, only the tools are different.
I don't even listen to it and even I know that
actually the ONLY band i mentioned from the 80s was Front 242 and maybe VNV Nation but that's stretching it a bit. the rest are from either the 90s or the early 00sspeedcoreXdandy said:
and i do know about Throbbing Gristle and Skinny Puppy, i'm in the Greater Right of the Wrong DVD, but they aren't as commercially accessible as the ones i did mention. tho the newer SP is a bit more so, the earlier stuff was rather harsh
as for stuff like Tangerine Dream, they are more ambient than anything and gets piled in the same group as TG and SP