I love VaLVE but the way they treat consoles is kinda annoying like I'm still waiting for the tf2 updates to come for the 360(if ever). But to me valve to me will always be about 2 badasses who left microsoft to start they're own business out of scratch.Ph33nix said:well i stopped loving valve along with most of my friends after the whole l4d debocklelacktheknack said:And a marshmallow shaped like a fish fell on Africa and decimated it.Ph33nix said:people no longer love valve