Why is Prostitution Illegal?

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Plurralbles

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*really wish a picture of genitals infected with genital warts wouldn't get me banned*

Seriously, why the fuck is this even a question?

and if it was widespread imagine the fire bombs thrown at it from the religious right?
 

likalaruku

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It's only illegal because the government kisses the pope's old white ass. There's a legal brother in Australia that's got the cleanest sex your money can by.
 

Xero Scythe

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demoman_chaos said:
I have never fully understood this. As the late (and great) George Carlin said, "Selling is legal, fucking is legal. Why is it illegal to sell fucking?" "Why is it illegal to sell what is perfectly legal to give away?"


Sex is legal when its free, but illegal when you pay for it. It doesn't make sense to me.
Here is my proposed solution. You have to have a license to be a prostitute, which requires a weekly STD test. Fail the test, lose your license.

Any ideas why prostitution is illegal and any idea ideas on how it would work if it was legal (like the above mention license)?
One problem. The average age people are forced into prostitution is age 13. Plus, the word forced. The human body is supposed to be sacred, and prostitution defiles that. Most prostitutes are forced into it, or have no choice. Would you be a prostitute? And what would it do to the human psyche. It believes mating it the ultimate end. Now what happens when it suddenly isn't?

Despite all this, I feel sorry 'cause you're probably gonna get flamed even more.
 

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Insanum said:
Though, for the sake of debate (I agree with your point but enjoy a debate against an intelligent person, which you seem to be...kinda like a game of mental chess), what if it was regulated the way that the porn industry is and they had to be in brothels? Or, if it was like in Amsterdam, where (to my understanding) smoking a certain plant is not legal but is tolerated in certain places because it can be regulated? That would get rid of the STDs being spread (for the most part), pimps and trafficking would still be illegal and severely punished but would lose business because the consumers can obtain the service from a legal source, also there's the benefit that it can be taxed thus adding to the national revenue. I still wouldn't solicit such businesses (happily married, thank you) but I understand that there is a market for it. It's like abortion or illegal drugs (don't get offended please hear me out) it doesn't matter if it's legal or not, people are going to do it anyways. Wouldn't it be better to control it than try (and fail) to get rid of it? In a way, it's a monster that you can't kill so why not control it instead and profit from such control?

Xero Scythe said:
. Plus, the word forced. The human body is supposed to be sacred, and prostitution defiles that. Most prostitutes are forced into it, or have no choice. Would you be a prostitute? And what would it do to the human psyche. It believes mating it the ultimate end. Now what happens when it suddenly isn't?

Despite all this, I feel sorry 'cause you're probably gonna get flamed even more.
Just wanted to say that not everybody feels their body is "sacred" (for example, the people who "give it away for free", drug abusers, or others who aren't religious). Also, I would think that legalization would mean regulation and anybody under the age of 18 (or if I made the rules 21) would not be legally allowed to partake in it should that would stay illegal. That's still just wrong because nobody should be forced in to it, children should not be exploited, and other reasons.
 

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demoman_chaos said:
Insanum said:
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During prohibition, many criminal organizations did quite a lot of evil (I'll skip the details for time's sake), which stopped nearly completely once alcohol was legalized.
Anything regulated generally becomes much less abused. If regulated and legalized, there would be a lot less girls on street corners. Brothels would reappear and most of the business would take place inside the brothel. Pimps would be out of work since illegally selling something legal doesn't work out very well, or they'd become legit businessmen.
For every issue, there will be NIMBY's. They are unavoidable, but they aren't unignorable.
Morality is really up to the person. It is not up to a government of other figurehead to decide what is and isn't moral. It is up to everyone to decide for themselves what is moral.
Prohibition, however is alcohol. A few major differences:

1.Alcohol isnt a primal desire, Whilst Sex is.
2.Supply. You need to make[/I] alcohol.
3. Pimps wouldn't be "out of work" - See my 2nd example. All it would mean was that those girls wouldn't have any legal backing as what they were being forced to do was legal.
4. You cant ignore Nimby's, within reason. You speak to anyone[/I] - they wouldnt want curb crawling or a brothel on their doorstep, Even a legal one.

You can say its up to everyone to decide what is moral, but just look at what the industry is. Look at the distress it causes. Look at the people involved. And you think that legalising all that is right?[/I]

(that wasnt meant as an insult, But you understand the point im making)

swolf said:
(im partial to mental chess, So to speak) - Really, I can only point you to the final statement i made above.
 

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well, i find it morally wrong and believe it should be illegal....
also, as some have pointed out... most prostitutes probably wouldn't choose to be prostitutes if they had another choice so i guess i think that legalizing it would be encouraging it and i don't think anyone should have to go through that...
 

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have you ever thought of it like this really. its legal to sell sex in porn so if was wanted to pay a girl to have sex with my and video taped it to sell as porn thats ok. but not in a hotel room is that contradiction
 

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Prostitution/brothels in particular lower(s) property values, which I'm pretty sure is the only reason it's illegal in some countries. Interestingly, in Canada, prostitution itself is legal (there's even tax forms for it!), but there are certain laws against "communicating" a solicitation in public (according to the Supreme Court, the inside of a police car counts as private. Oh yes, I'm sure that was a fun case...)

While most people wouldn't aspire to become a sex worker as like, a grand career goal, it's certain not unreasonable to think of using it as a stepping stone. I don't see why a sex worker should be any more stigmatized than say, a janitor. Frankly, the laws against prostitution just make it unsafe, which isn't fair to anyone.

I did a group project on prostitution for my Introduction to Social Sciences course last year... It was kind of awkward because we were five people, but three of us didn't quite grasp that sex trafficking and prostitution are not the same thing. It's hard to separate the reality from the associations that have been set up in our minds all these years...
 

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Insanum said:
demoman_chaos said:
Prohibition, however is alcohol. A few major differences:

1.Alcohol isnt a primal desire, Whilst Sex is.
2.Supply. You need to make[/I] alcohol.
3. Pimps wouldn't be "out of work" - See my 2nd example. All it would mean was that those girls wouldn't have any legal backing as what they were being forced to do was legal.
4. You cant ignore Nimby's, within reason. You speak to anyone[/I] - they wouldnt want curb crawling or a brothel on their doorstep, Even a legal one.

You can say its up to everyone to decide what is moral, but just look at what the industry is. Look at the distress it causes. Look at the people involved. And you think that legalising all that is right?[/I]

(that wasnt meant as an insult, But you understand the point im making)

swolf said:
(im partial to mental chess, So to speak) - Really, I can only point you to the final statement i made above.
I think your close to putting me in checkmate. Umm...well, some people become addicted to alcohol, forcing somebody to do it would still be illegal(...though I do realize that they would lie so that would be hard to enforce...my defense is getting weak...), and NIMBYs...well, the gov't does things that some people aren't going to like...so, okay, I think you're about to win so go ahead and have a cookie, you essentially, have me in checkmate. Also, thank you for the good debate. I see your points and (like I said before, I'm against it as well and just debated for fun) feel that legalizing would only work in theory, not practice. If anybody else feels they can come up with a good defense, feel free. I'm out.
 

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All it would mean was that those girls wouldn't have any legal backing as what they were being forced to do was legal.
What? Being kept against one's will is illegal in and of itself, sex under duress (such as the imminent threat of violence) is rape in and of itself. Human trafficking is illegal in and of itself. You aren't making any rational sense.
You cant ignore Nimby's, within reason. You speak to anyone - they wouldnt want curb crawling or a brothel on their doorstep, Even a legal one.
The thread is about the legality of prostitution, not its viability as a business enterprise.

All I've seen so far is appeal to emotion.
 

loremazd

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Street prostitution is and should always be illegal. And brothers should be regulated very strictly. With paid sex comes the potential for abuse. That being said, it's a state by state issue.

Several states have regulated brothels.

But to answer the question:

1: because prostitutes are looked down upon, largely seen as victims and addicts, with a high chance of having STDs.
2:Religious and moral reasons, I for one think that sex is a rather wonderful expression of love, and get annoyed at it being something you do because you're bored. That being said, I've no interest in controlling people's thoughts on the subject.
3.You live in a society, and your society doesn't want it to be legal, and that's how that works, pretty much.
 

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BearCavalry9496 said:
Las Vegas has it legalized if I remember correctly, but the prostitute has to get health check-ups/licenses and shit.
That's actually OUTSIDE of Las Vegas but, you are correct, it's in Nevada. If I remember right (from the HBO series) it's a few miles outside of Vegas.
 

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Xero Scythe said:
One problem. The average age people are forced into prostitution is age 13. Plus, the word forced.
You're assuming that making prostitution legal automatically makes forced prostitution legal which makes absolutely NO sense what so ever. Forced prostitution would still remain illegal cause, ya know, it's slavery... Anyway, the people who force people into prostitution are already breaking various other laws, adding another law broken to the list doesn't change crap, they don't care. "I'm totally okay with kidnapping these people and using them as slaves but WOAH hold on prostitution is illegal!?! Well, that changes everything! I certainly wouldn't want to do something illegal!" If you make prostitution legal it would honestly make the various other crimes related to prostitution go down because A) prostitutes would be more likely to get help since they wouldn't be thrown in jail and B) because there would be a legal, safer alternative to forced prostitution which would draw a lot of the clients away.

Xero Scythe said:
The human body is supposed to be sacred, and prostitution defiles that.
The human body isn't considered sacred by most, not by a long shot. Guess what, athletes, models, a large majority of super stars, people who volunteer for science experiments, they are ALL selling their bodies, and no one cares. Heck, athletes are one of the most celebrated people in existence and they trash their bodies for the amusement of all and that's seen as a good thing.
 

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There is an Article in the Military Justice Code thing that basically anything other your standard missionary position is illegal. Basically everyone has been raised that money for sex is bad.