Why is Prostitution Illegal?

[Vrex360]

It's not illegal in some parts of the world though, there are still 'escort girls' working and there is the occassional brothel but for the most part I think that sex addiction is still technically an addicition and plus given the abusive way some pimps treat their women, it can be seen as highly amoral.

That said if it isn't the amoral pimp business or the whole 'preying on the desperate' angle when it comes to hiring women for this job then I'm sure it wouldn't be that big of a deal. It's just that it's kind of hard to sweep all the unpleasant parts of the industry under the rug. So it's illegal because it's one part addictive and one part amoral.
That said from what I understand 'escort girls' and certain brothels still operate legally, admittedly I could be wrong about that.

 

[RatRace123]

Not illegal everywhere. It's just called "escort service"

Personally I think it'd be a profitable venture, I see no reason why regulated brothels shouldn't exist.

 

[starbob84]

what is immoral about sex?

 

[Insanum]

Prohibition, however is alcohol. A few major differences:

1.Alcohol isnt a primal desire, Whilst Sex is.
2.Supply. You need to make[/I] alcohol.
3. Pimps wouldn't be "out of work" - See my 2nd example. All it would mean was that those girls wouldn't have any legal backing as what they were being forced to do was legal.
4. You cant ignore Nimby's, within reason. You speak to anyone[/I] - they wouldnt want curb crawling or a brothel on their doorstep, Even a legal one.

You can say its up to everyone to decide what is moral, but just look at what the industry is. Look at the distress it causes. Look at the people involved. And you think that legalising all that is right?[/I]

(that wasnt meant as an insult, But you understand the point im making)

I'm partial to mental chess, So to speak.

There are more alcohol addicts than sex addicts.
You need a supply of women to be a pimp, and women have to be created and raised (which takes longer than it does to make alcohol).

The pimps would have quite a few less customers. People tend to only do illegal things if there is no legal alternative. Make it legal,and most will do it legally. Pimps will be forced to lower prices to compete, which will drive them into bankruptcy since their other habits aren't cheap and they will for the most part be eliminated.
I personally can ignore NIMBY's, they are just people after all. If a businessman wants to build a brothel, he will. If the locals resist, he just has to shell out a few bucks and the NIMBY's shut up.

I do understand your point, but most problems can be resolved in a short amount of time. Once it is legal, most problems will be eliminated. And don't worry about insulting me, I don't get offended.

Mental chess is quite fun.

There are more Alcoholics now it has been legalised. When i say "pimp" i dont mean the "Big black guy wearing purple and jive talking" - I mean a Criminal. A nasty piece of work.

The best advice/counter argument i can give Re: NIMBY's is to try and have some apathy - You say that "you can ignore these people, they are people after all" - Put yourselves in their shoes. Imagine your house, You favourite hang-out, Etc, has had something you find undesireable (if brothels aren't) put next door.

The problems that happen in the industry at the moment last a lifetime. The physical & mental trauma a lot of the girls suffer is incomprehensible - thats[/I] why i feel it shouldnt be legalised.

I just mentioned the patronising thing as i didnt want you to think i was being "snotty" (or for the mods to think that)

 

[superbatranger]

I think it's mainly because of the risks associated with prostitution. The use of illicit drugs, spread of STD's, being caught in a cycle of endless prostitution that you can't get out of, possible sex addiction if all you do is spend your money on said prostitutes. But the big one is the morality of it all. Religion and government usually tell us that it's bad, therefore we row up thinking it's wrong.

Now, I know that as we grow older, we learn that it's not necessarily wrong. But, because it is illegal in some countries, we can't really do anything unless they decide to pass a law legalizing and regulating it. We just have to accept that it's illegal until that happens, if it does.

 

[starbob84]

Look what happens any time degeneracy is legalized. It never works out for the betterment of society, which is also why I disapprove of legalizing narcotics.

list some examples.

 

[Insanum]

Not illegal everywhere. It's just called "escort service"

Personally I think it'd be a profitable venture, I see no reason why regulated brothels shouldn't exist.

It's not illegal in some parts of the world though, there are still 'escort girls' working.

The way they get round the laws (to my knowledge - Ive never tried (or have any intention of trying) any of these services) is that you pay for the "date", and then if anything happens then it is between two consenting adults.

 

[Newa]

I wish it wasn't.

 

[KittyPryde87]

Herpes.

 

[demoman_chaos]

There are more Alcoholics now it has been legalised. When i say "pimp" i dont mean the "Big black guy wearing purple and jive talking" - I mean a Criminal. A nasty piece of work.

The best advice/counter argument i can give Re: NIMBY's is to try and have some apathy - You say that "you can ignore these people, they are people after all" - Put yourselves in their shoes. Imagine your house, You favourite hang-out, Etc, has had something you find undesireable (if brothels aren't) put next door.

The problems that happen in the industry at the moment last a lifetime. The physical & mental trauma a lot of the girls suffer is incomprehensible - thats[/I] why i feel it shouldnt be legalised.

I just mentioned the patronising thing as i didnt want you to think i was being "snotty" (or for the mods to think that)

Free sex is legal.

Me personally I don't overly care what is put in near me. If it causing trouble, there are ways to stop it. If it doesn't directly effect me, then I am not bothered by most things. Put a prison near where I live (would be tough, but lets just be theoretical here). A lot of people think it would be bad, but it would make your neighborhood quite crime free. You think if anyone escapes they'll bother you? No, you escape to get as far away as possible. You think anyone will be dealing drugs right next to a prison?
I am quite passive, but I understand most people aren't. If I weren't so passive, I may care. But as long as it doesn't directly hinder me, I don't care.

Again, most people would go the legal route cutting a major chunk out of the pimp's business. Porn is legal, but child porn isn't. Porn is essentially prostitution. People getting paid to have sex, only difference is they get paid by people who watch the video and not by the other person.

No worries, I don't get offended. Debates like this are quite fun and are good mental training. I always enjoy a good debate.

 

[vanalla]

There are many reasons why prostitution is illegal. Firstly, on the christian point of view, prostitution is a blatant violation of the ten commandments, "Thou shalt not commit adultery". Secondly, it is relative to the laws on piracy. say God is the original creator of content, or the artist. You are God's work, and therefore, you have the right to share that with others, for free, which is like file sharing. Once you start to charge people for sharing yourself (selling pirated material) then it is illegal. And lastly, it is because most of the nations of the world were founded on christian beliefs, so therefore it is illegal in many countries. Prostitution is illegal mainly for the reason of religion.

 

[Johnnyallstar]

Look what happens any time degeneracy is legalized. It never works out for the betterment of society, which is also why I disapprove of legalizing narcotics.

list some examples.

The founder of Planned Parenthood was a woman named Margaret Sanger. It was her belief that abortion, and other forms of extreme birth control, such as sterilization, was for the betterment of society. She pushed eugenics hard, but not just to remove the diseased and genetically damaged, but also specifically to rid America of anyone of black descent.

She was quoted by Linda Gordon as saying "We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."

But eventually, her foundation finally achieved getting abortion legalized. And ever since then Americans have constantly been questioning the value of life, and continually thinking less and less of it. Once thought to be a sacred gift, life is now often seen as a burden. Another mouth to feed, another body to clothe, another head to shelter, rather than another vessel for invention, or another mind for ingenuity, or another source of growth and ideas.

If that's not a degradation of society, I don't know what is.

 

[Shoggoth2588]

Prostitution is still illegal in the U.S. because of how many of the voters are religious to the point of fanaticism. Not that they're bad people, they're just raised to believe that prostitution is bad and the ones in charge live to appease them so as to stay in power. Based on the way things are going though, Prostitution will be legalized within the next decade or three. California will likely be where it starts since it seems everything starts there. Once they get recreational marijuana legalized, they'll likely start talking about the possibility of prostitution.

STDs is a major threat though, especially in the D.C. area. If properly regulated though, it shouldn't be that major an issue through moderate-to-intense screening. This brings me to the other issue which is health care. In a world with free, universal healthcare, 'pimps' could get their girls checked out regularly. With the current state of healthcare, it would cut deeply into the profit margin of the enterprising 'pimp'. Well, maybe not that deeply as I'm lead to believe prostitution is a lucrative business

A final issue with prostitution is government regulation. At the moment [if movies and TV have taught me anything] it is easy to make about $20 as a prostitute by simply masturbating for the customer's viewing pleasure. The government may think that's worth more and require the pimp to 'jack up' his [or her] prices. That's not even counting the taxes!

 

[Insanum]

Im'ma have to break your argument down as theres quite a few valid points here:

Free sex is legal.

Well yes, But thats a different matter. If you have a Wife/Girlfriend (assuming you're male), then thats perfectly legal. But dont forget rape is free.

Me personally I don't overly care what is put in near me. If it causing trouble, there are ways to stop it. If it doesn't directly effect me, then I am not bothered by most things.

I have largely the same attitude, although i do care about what is built around me.

Put a prison near where I live (would be tough, but lets just be theoretical here). A lot of people think it would be bad, but it would make your neighborhood quite crime free. You think if anyone escapes they'll bother you? No, you escape to get as far away as possible. You think anyone will be dealing drugs right next to a prison?

I know this is would[/I] be at risk. Now obviously, there is always a slim chance that could happen anywhere, but you've got more of a risk being near a prison.

Just because you are near[/I] a prison, Doesn't mean the surrounding area is crawling with police - but thats a different subject.

I am quite passive, but I understand most people aren't. If I weren't so passive, I may care. But as long as it doesn't directly hinder me, I don't care.

Again, most people would go the legal route cutting a major chunk out of the pimp's business. Porn is legal, but child porn isn't. Porn is essentially prostitution. People getting paid to have sex, only difference is they get paid by people who watch the video and not by the other person.
The adult movie industry is different. The "Actors" in the films are two consenting adults. Porn isn't the same as prostitution on one key factor. Contribution.

If you legalise the industry, You change the pimp's job describtion, from Pimp/madam to Manager.

No worries, I don't get offended. Debates like this are quite fun and are good mental training. I always enjoy a good debate.

Thats a relief ^^

 

[demoman_chaos]

There are many reasons why prostitution is illegal. Firstly, on the christian point of view, prostitution is a blatant violation of the ten commandments, "Thou shalt not commit adultery". Secondly, it is relative to the laws on piracy. say God is the original creator of content, or the artist. You are God's work, and therefore, you have the right to share that with others, for free, which is like file sharing. Once you start to charge people for sharing yourself (selling pirated material) then it is illegal. And lastly, it is because most of the nations of the world were founded on christian beliefs, so therefore it is illegal in many countries. Prostitution is illegal mainly for the reason of religion.

Again religious nuts doing something they think is right in theory but in the end causes more problems than it stops.

Ever since then Americans have constantly been questioning the value of life, and continually thinking less and less of it. Once thought to be a sacred gift, life is now often seen as a burden. Another mouth to feed, another body to clothe, another head to shelter, rather than another vessel for invention, or another mind for ingenuity, or another source of growth and ideas.

If that's not a degradation of society, I don't know what is.

Being a realist, I realize that humans are no different than other animals besides being able to reason better. So sterilizing a human is wrong, but Bob Barker telling everyone to neuter their dogs makes him a good man? Why is it ok to chop a dog's manhood off but bad if we do the same to ourselves?
Again though, a debate for another date.

 

[RelexCryo]

I have never fully understood this. As the late (and great) George Carlin said, "Selling is legal, fucking is legal. Why is it illegal to sell fucking?" "Why is it illegal to sell what is perfectly legal to give away?"


Sex is legal when its free, but illegal when you pay for it. It doesn't make sense to me.
Here is my proposed solution. You have to have a license to be a prostitute, which requires a weekly STD test. Fail the test, lose your license.

Any ideas why prostitution is illegal and any idea ideas on how it would work if it was legal (like the above mention license)?

It's because conservatives define your rights by your ability to lead the life they want you to lead, rather than your ability to make your own choices on how to lead your own life. It is one of the major failings of conservatives, and a major part of why I am a moderate.

 

[okogamashii]

Probably because it's objectifies people and makes them things instead of humans.
Besides, it's not entirely illegal; certain states have brothels that are perfectly legal.

 

[Kingshadow6]

Because change is scary, and most people willing allow that sort of behavior are too cowardly to attempt to deal with the backlash that it would cause, but I suppose that's just my theory. Legalizing prostitution doesn't look good on a ballot.