Why is Prostitution Illegal?

[demoman_chaos]

Well yes, But thats a different matter. If you have a Wife/Girlfriend (assuming you're male), then thats perfectly legal. But dont forget rape is free.

But rape is illegal. And prostitution is consensual sex with a promise for money at the end.

I know this is would[/I] be at risk. Now obviously, there is always a slim chance that could happen anywhere, but you've got more of a risk being near a prison.

That is why they invented weapons. The pursuit would be enough to waken me, doors would be locked. If they did manage to get in, they'd end up with a giant cut via my battle-ready katana. I may be passive, but I am always prepared.

The adult movie industry is different. The "Actors" in the films are two consenting adults. Porn isn't the same as prostitution on one key factor. Contribution.

If you legalize the industry, You change the pimp's job description, from Pimp/madam to Manager.

How is it different? 2 people getting paid to have sex. Only noticeable difference is the inclusion of a camera to record it.
Prostitution would be between 2 consenting adults. Difference is it (usually) isn't filmed and only 1 is getting paid.

 

[Kaymish]

well its not illegal here in New Zealand and many of the problems it financed or caused became less after it was de-criminalised a couple of years ago and i haven't seen any new issues that didn't happen when it was illegal

 

[KittyPryde87]

Probably because it's objectifies people and makes them things instead of humans.

Umm if we are going by these guidelines our advertising industry would be illegal as well.

 

[DeathWyrmNexus]

It is mostly the flawed religious argument as making something harmless illegal just makes it harmful to those who do it.

Case in point, prohibition. Second case in point, current prostitution levels.

 

[CyberGenesis]

It's legal in parts of Nevada

OT: Because it's a governmental attempt to stem the spread of STDs. But if you legalized it, you could make a lot of money off of licensing and required medical checkups

 

[KittyPryde87]

I think we should make it legal and use the aborted fetuses for stem cell research.

 

[okogamashii]

Probably because it's objectifies people and makes them things instead of humans.

Umm if we are going by these guidelines our advertising industry would be illegal as well.

Not quite. It's one thing to use sexy ladies or whatever to sell things, quite another to teach people that all other people are is a place to stick it for an hour or so. Also, advertising doesn't turn people into soulless wretches that hate their life.

 

[tofulove]

every issues related with prostitution is because its illegal, the criminal part, violence rape murder. its all cause its illegal, legalize it and regulated it. its no longer criminal. the violence rape and murder and abuse would skyrocket down to almost nothing.

when you make some thing a crime that should not be a crime, it becomes a crime. if you made worms illegal, uncle bob would have to go to the mafia to get his worms for fishing. and he might get killed for wearing a wire cause officer dennis was going to send him to jail for 20 years for illegal worm use.

 

[Dags90]

OT: Because it's a governmental attempt to stem the spread of STDs.

Like free STD screening and subsidized prophylactics?

Also, advertising doesn't turn people into soulless wretches that hate their life.

Ever hear of eating disorders?

 

[Insanum]

Well yes, But thats a different matter. If you have a Wife/Girlfriend (assuming you're male), then thats perfectly legal. But dont forget rape is free.

But rape is illegal. And prostitution is consensual sex with a promise for money at the end.

Well it's actually sex in exchange for money. Put on your attenborough head for a moment and ask what sex is - Do you see any animals in the animal kingdom paying for it?

I know this is would[/I] be at risk. Now obviously, there is always a slim chance that could happen anywhere, but you've got more of a risk being near a prison.

That is why they invented weapons. The pursuit would be enough to waken me, doors would be locked. If they did manage to get in, they'd end up with a giant cut via my battle-ready katana. I may be passive, but I am always prepared.

If you were in the UK, Arming yourself and attacking an intruder is a criminal offence (another stupid rule, i know) But alas, This is another topic. But, If we can bring it back to the topic of NIMBY's - Basically "be prepared" is the response to have?

The adult movie industry is different. The "Actors" in the films are two consenting adults. Porn isn't the same as prostitution on one key factor. Contribution.

If you legalize the industry, You change the pimp's job description, from Pimp/madam to Manager.

How is it different? 2 people getting paid to have sex. Only noticeable difference is the inclusion of a camera to record it.
Prostitution would be between 2 consenting adults. Difference is it (usually) isn't filmed and only 1 is getting paid.[/quote] Very Different. Is one of the consenting adults in the video paying[/I] to be there?

He's there hopping on the good foot & doing the bad thing, And your at home watching him with the one hand fandango. Thats the main difference. The second Major difference. Filmed. We'll stick with the gender role we have been using - She does it with him and is filmed - the film is then distributed. Everyone that pays[/I] to see that video is only seeing a video, They're not taking the place of the guy, unlike prostitution.

 

[BlackWidower]

The same reason why Child Labour is banned. Because it's immoral.

It's immoral? Sorry you're going to have to do better than that. Morality, in case you didn't know, is debateable, and it changes over time, it's not an absolute. There was a time when racism and slavery were moral, that's not true today.

 

[starbob84]

Look what happens any time degeneracy is legalized. It never works out for the betterment of society, which is also why I disapprove of legalizing narcotics.

list some examples.

The founder of Planned Parenthood was a woman named Margaret Sanger. It was her belief that abortion, and other forms of extreme birth control, such as sterilization, was for the betterment of society. She pushed eugenics hard, but not just to remove the diseased and genetically damaged, but also specifically to rid America of anyone of black descent.

She was quoted by Linda Gordon as saying "We do not want word to go out that we want to
exterminate the Negro population, if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."

This forum is about prostitution not abortion. I was looking for examples against the later, but one racist lady does not prove your point. The world is field with gray not black and white. So if people want to pay for sex and people want to get paid for sex, what is the problem.

But eventually, her foundation finally achieved getting abortion legalized. And ever since then Americans have constantly been questioning the value of life, and continually thinking less and less of it. Once thought to be a sacred gift, life is now often seen as a burden. Another mouth to feed, another body to clothe, another head to shelter, rather than another vessel for invention, or another mind for ingenuity, or another source of growth and ideas.

If that's not a degradation of society, I don't know what is.

 

[Eversor01]

Here in Aus prostitution is legal. You'll probably find it is legal in parts of most countries, there are just restrictions on where it can be done within that country. For example here its not near school hospitals and not in residential zones.

While this may seem strange to some it is ultimately what the majority of voters have voted for a government who put through those laws, or not went against a government who put through the laws without voter support. Either way the laws exist because people support the or don't fight them. If you don't like the laws near where you are there is probably an appropriate political group with a similar phylosophy to yourself that you can join.

 

[iamded]

You guys and your illegal prostitution.

Prostitution and brothel keeping are legal in New Zealand. Pimping (deriving financial gain from the prostitution of another) is also legal. Street prostitution is also permitted.

Okay, I admit, all I really added to this conversation was, "Not my problem, I can't help you.", but it sort of answers the question of why prostitution is illegal, in that it's not (everywhere, at least).

 

[Caligulove]

moral discrepancies with women (especially) or men taking monetary gain from something thats supposed to be special and intimate between two people.

Sex is what you make it, though. And I think that it would be one way for tax revenue, some people like having sex enough to merge that personal life with a work life. I think they should have that right to.
The problem comes with the illegality of it. Makes for underground dealings, unsafe environments, dangerous clients, more dangerous bosses, substance abuses, no regulation of the health of the girls or the customers.

That and the fact that most of the time, yes, it is a consensual agreement between 2 adults.

The stigma against prostitution would not go away if it were legalized, of course. Still deeply ingrained dislike against it out there that would never really go away. That and people use the same slippery-slope argument with something like gay marriage in that "what's next? marriage with dogs? horses?" becomes something like allowing the legalization of child prostitution. No, don't be crazy and use fear tactics. This can be discussed reasonably between people. But I do think it would help some women off the street and into something else or at least get them better conditions if they choose to keep their work

 

[demoman_chaos]

Well it's actually sex in exchange for money. Put on your attenborough head for a moment and ask what sex is - Do you see any animals in the animal kingdom paying for it?

Do you see any animals that have money? Can't pay for sex if you don't have money.

If you were in the UK, Arming yourself and attacking an intruder is a criminal offence (another stupid rule, i know) But alas, This is another topic. But, If we can bring it back to the topic of NIMBY's - Basically "be prepared" is the response to have?

Yes, or call the cops if things get out of hand.
In the US, you can kill an intruder in self-defense. So I don't get why attacking an intruder a criminal offense? Didn't the RAF attack the intruding Luftwaffe during the Battle of Britain?

Very Different. Is one of the consenting adults in the video paying[/I] to be there?

He's there hopping on the good foot & doing the bad thing, And your at home watching him with the one hand fandango. Thats the main difference. The second Major difference. Filmed. We'll stick with the gender role we have been using - She does it with him and is filmed - the film is then distributed. Everyone that pays[/I] to see that video is only seeing a video, They're not taking the place of the guy, unlike prostitution.

But in the end, the person partaking in the sex is still getting paid like a prostitute would. Porn is like double-sided prostitution on film. Both people are getting paid to have sex on camera.
You can film prostitutes doing their thing and sell the videos as porn, so the point about the guy "having fun with Rosey Palm" would be there either way. Only difference between porn and prostitution is that both individuals are getting paid instead of just a single person making a profit.

 

[Zhukov]

It's legal where I live.

 

[2012 Wont Happen]

Most of the problems caused by drugs and prostitution relate to drugs and prostitution being illegal. If we eliminated the laws, we'd eliminate a lot of the problems.

 

[Pegghead]

Funnily enough in the "Latest posts" bar this thread was situated above "Why can't I eat human?". In my opinion I should just wheel out Al Jaffee again and be done with it.

To me I think it's a degrading career and lifestyle, I mean, I don't want to sell my body (And that's not just because of the horrid ugliness...hehehe?) and I still hold up the love part of the act of making love. Besides, hypothetically let's say you were raising a daughter, would you want her to grow up with nothing to stop her from pursuing a life frought with danger (Just look at Vince Offer...slap-chopped) and disease?

 

[kazork]

Because it's impossible to enforce taxation.

In Amsterdam the prostitutes pay tax and it is working fine.

The main thing is that prostitutes wil always exist, it is called the oldes proffesion for a reason. Making it illegal won't stop it and will just force the proffesion to be regulated by criminals.
If you make it legal you can regulate, protect and tax.
In Amsterdam the prostituse have there working rooms in the Red light district wich is in the center of the city.
They have a panick button in there room, when said button is pressed the police is notified and can send someone to go look.
They are checked for STD's and last but not least they have to fill in a tax-form.