Why is the Ninja wearing orange?

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Grimm91

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Onmi said:
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Grimm91 said:
Onmi said:
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I hate Naruto. The reason I hate him is because of the orange and "I'm going to be a ninja believe it!" Need I say more?
I don't hate him, The thing I hate is he wants to be 'The Hokage' why did they have to make them Ninja's.

Oh right Kishimoto can't write.
Power to you! That's the truth!
Claymore has much better writing for the most part and it's basically Berserk with girls. (This is not a bad thing.) Go read it/watch it.
I haven't read claymore yet, it's on my 'To Do' list.

Also loving hell If he had just called ninja's 'Martial Artists' I wouldn't give him so much flack, but NO he had to go with Ninja, And he LOVES the Uchiha characters, So much so he got rid of the current Big Bad for another Uchiha.

Haxeyes do not make good characters.
I'll look in to that.
 

Simriel

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Because the Mangaka is a freaking idiot who hamhands his own Mythos?

Yes I frigging hate Naruto, not the idea, I think the idea could have worked but Kishimoto couldn't write a compelling or funny plot to save his life.

Naruto is the Harry Potter of Shonen Anime and Manga, it is constantly praised despite being ridiculous drivel while better more intriguing (and funnier) things exist within it's Genre.

Case in Point Artemis Fowl and One Piece.

While Naruto spent a good chunk of the year focusing on one of the dullest fights in history (Seriously you wouldn't think it possible to screw up such an anticipated showdown in the Mythos but lo and behold Kishimoto proves again he can't write) Meanwhile One Piece was running around with a freaking Skeleton Musician with an Afro. Fighting Zombies and other horrors on Thriller Bark.

I don't even know where to begin with how much Artemis Fowl kicks HP's ass as Fantasy novels.

That's not to say either One Piece or Artemis Fowl are the best Manga/Novellia in the history of anything.

Cowboy Bebop, Berserk, Gantz, Samurai Champloo, The Big O, Mazinkaiser, Shin Getter Robo, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann are ALL equal/better Anime/Manga than One Piece.

As for Novels... not to sure but there are probably some written by someone other than Eion Colfer that are better, I rank it up their with the Full Metal Panic! Novels and Haruhi Suzumiya Novels (Novels not Anime/Manga)


As for the games, I tried out the demo for the PS3 one, for a fighting game it was good, not dull at all but not something I'll sink time or money into. but then again the games are made by Cyber Connect 2 who should be spending there time improving/ Making sense out of the .Hack Mythos. Improving upon the G.U. games combat and world.


That's not to say i'm insulting anyone who likes Naruto, I mean different strokes different Folks, just to me, I'm an incarnation of a certain 'Stop Having Fun' guy, The type of guy you become when you spend around two years analyzing media for school and you just go "WHY DID I DO THAT NOW I CAN'T ENJOY ANYTHING!!!"


Of course Naruto has nothing to worried about when compared to (UGH!) The Cosmic Era Gundamverse. Kishimoto could Masturbate to the face of hitler and it would STILL be more bearable than that... SHIT!

Replace Naruto with HP and Replace C.E. Gverse with Twilight and see my impressions that Yes, there is allways something worse.
WE MEET AGAIN!!!! Mein Gott! another Artimis fowl fan? Most people have never heard of them.
 

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Onmi said:
Simriel said:
WE MEET AGAIN!!!! Mein Gott! another Artimis fowl fan? Most people have never heard of them.
when I left school, I asked the librarian if I could just buy the books because nobody after me would read them. Because they don't have taste.

I recently brought 1,2,3 and 6.
When i left school, i took two terry prattchet novels because i was the only one who had EVER checked them out! and a Black Librarynovel that had the same situation... i didnt pay... Iv missed books 5 and 6 due to total lack of interest, though iv recently been told they are rather good (if you like the adventures of fowl and butler ((HORRAY FOR BUTLER THE WALKING TANK!)) i recommend Anthony horriwitz Power of Five series)
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXAY5qvJfM

A comparison of a bad dub with a good dub.
Dear god, I heard the one-piece dub was bad.. but that's friggen awful.

I'm watching the subbed at the moment, and it shits all over it.
 

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Onmi said:
One Piece videos
^ Okay, not exactly a quote, but you know what I mean.

Actually, I enjoyed watching those. Thanks for posting them.


And Naruto wears orange because the Leaf Village is located in the orchards of Florida. It' helps him blend in with all the fruits. Didn't know that, did ya? Mystery solved.
 

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Onmi said:
Well actually as of the most recent chapter the Leaf Village is a gigantic crater since it's become the 'Doomed Hometown'

Unfortunately this spells a horrible year for Naruto because Kishimoto gets off 1 good chapter every year and he already wasted it.
Yeah, I saw that and was like.... sucks to be Konoha. Hasn't even been five years since it was trashed by Orochimaru.
 

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Jumpman said:
let me start by saying that I am in no way and anime or manga fan, I find the majority of it to be extremely cliché and unoriginal. I don't read the books, I don't watch the shows, and I don't play the games... usually. So my friend bought the latest naruto fighting game for the PS3 and despite my better judgement, I played a little.

Many parts were as I expected, lots of pre-rendered special attacks, graphics that could have been from the PS1, and enough quick time events to give yahtzee a case of shingles. There were however, several gameplay features that I found refreshingly original and interesting. The open environment, variety of long range weapons, and significant variation in the different characters fighting styles.

Anyway, I've only played a bit, but I was curious about your guys' opinions. good, bad, original, knockoff ect...

Frankly I dont think I'm a very good judge because I don't play allot of these games (naruto, butokai...) So I cant tell if these features are original or just copying an older game.
Jumpman said:
let me start by saying that I am in no way and anime or manga fan, I find the majority of it to be extremely cliché and unoriginal. I don't read the books, I don't watch the shows, and I don't play the games... usually. So my friend bought the latest naruto fighting game for the PS3 and despite my better judgement, I played a little.

Many parts were as I expected, lots of pre-rendered special attacks, graphics that could have been from the PS1, and enough quick time events to give yahtzee a case of shingles. There were however, several gameplay features that I found refreshingly original and interesting. The open environment, variety of long range weapons, and significant variation in the different characters fighting styles.

Anyway, I've only played a bit, but I was curious about your guys' opinions. good, bad, original, knockoff ect...

Frankly I dont think I'm a very good judge because I don't play allot of these games (naruto, butokai...) So I cant tell if these features are original or just copying an older game.
I can't stand Naruto but Ultimate Ninja storm is the best looking cell shaded game I've ever seen.
 

shadow skill

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Decoy Doctorpus said:
Jumpman said:
let me start by saying that I am in no way and anime or manga fan, I find the majority of it to be extremely cliché and unoriginal. I don't read the books, I don't watch the shows, and I don't play the games... usually. So my friend bought the latest naruto fighting game for the PS3 and despite my better judgement, I played a little.

Many parts were as I expected, lots of pre-rendered special attacks, graphics that could have been from the PS1, and enough quick time events to give yahtzee a case of shingles. There were however, several gameplay features that I found refreshingly original and interesting. The open environment, variety of long range weapons, and significant variation in the different characters fighting styles.

Anyway, I've only played a bit, but I was curious about your guys' opinions. good, bad, original, knockoff ect...

Frankly I dont think I'm a very good judge because I don't play allot of these games (naruto, butokai...) So I cant tell if these features are original or just copying an older game.
Jumpman said:
let me start by saying that I am in no way and anime or manga fan, I find the majority of it to be extremely cliché and unoriginal. I don't read the books, I don't watch the shows, and I don't play the games... usually. So my friend bought the latest naruto fighting game for the PS3 and despite my better judgement, I played a little.

Many parts were as I expected, lots of pre-rendered special attacks, graphics that could have been from the PS1, and enough quick time events to give yahtzee a case of shingles. There were however, several gameplay features that I found refreshingly original and interesting. The open environment, variety of long range weapons, and significant variation in the different characters fighting styles.

Anyway, I've only played a bit, but I was curious about your guys' opinions. good, bad, original, knockoff ect...

Frankly I dont think I'm a very good judge because I don't play allot of these games (naruto, butokai...) So I cant tell if these features are original or just copying an older game.
I can't stand Naruto but Ultimate Ninja storm is the best looking cell shaded game I've ever seen.
It's one of the few that gets that look right.
 

shadow skill

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Onmi said:
shadow skill said:
Decoy Doctorpus said:
Jumpman said:
let me start by saying that I am in no way and anime or manga fan, I find the majority of it to be extremely cliché and unoriginal. I don't read the books, I don't watch the shows, and I don't play the games... usually. So my friend bought the latest naruto fighting game for the PS3 and despite my better judgement, I played a little.

Many parts were as I expected, lots of pre-rendered special attacks, graphics that could have been from the PS1, and enough quick time events to give yahtzee a case of shingles. There were however, several gameplay features that I found refreshingly original and interesting. The open environment, variety of long range weapons, and significant variation in the different characters fighting styles.

Anyway, I've only played a bit, but I was curious about your guys' opinions. good, bad, original, knockoff ect...

Frankly I dont think I'm a very good judge because I don't play allot of these games (naruto, butokai...) So I cant tell if these features are original or just copying an older game.
Jumpman said:
let me start by saying that I am in no way and anime or manga fan, I find the majority of it to be extremely cliché and unoriginal. I don't read the books, I don't watch the shows, and I don't play the games... usually. So my friend bought the latest naruto fighting game for the PS3 and despite my better judgement, I played a little.

Many parts were as I expected, lots of pre-rendered special attacks, graphics that could have been from the PS1, and enough quick time events to give yahtzee a case of shingles. There were however, several gameplay features that I found refreshingly original and interesting. The open environment, variety of long range weapons, and significant variation in the different characters fighting styles.

Anyway, I've only played a bit, but I was curious about your guys' opinions. good, bad, original, knockoff ect...

Frankly I dont think I'm a very good judge because I don't play allot of these games (naruto, butokai...) So I cant tell if these features are original or just copying an older game.
I can't stand Naruto but Ultimate Ninja storm is the best looking cell shaded game I've ever seen.
It's one of the few that gets that look right.
Up until you play Prince of Persia or Valkyria Chronicles, because both games make Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm it's *****.
Meh the characters in pop don't even look like they are a part of the map, NUNS and VC seem to manage this 99% of the time.
 

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Zone of the Enders 2 also did a fantastic job with cell shading (though as I normally abhor the style I'm not sure if my opinion counts as much here).

As for anime in general...hard to say. I'm distinctly a fan of anime, in most of its forms, and have been since I was very young. I tend to think what drives people away from it is said people noticing all the flaws all at once, rather than over time like the (sane) fans.

Flaws being repetitive characterization, character design, and some truly banal (and repetitive) scripting. These things do tend to crop up, and Naruto unfortunately features two of them as primary traits for its main character ("I never give up!" "I have limitless supernatural power!" and "I have lines indicating all this!" specifically). Speaking from an actor's perspective, the english dub of Naruto also suffers from VA's who are accurate to their characters but find aspects of the script a bit awkward, or who seem a tad amateurish (And I have no idea what threw Freeman off on Itachi).

That said, some anime is absolutely phenomenal, for story: Cowboy Bebop and Full Metal Alchemist (with its hastily-invented second half, no less), Wolf's Rain (even with the type of "look how artsy we are" bullshit ending that Evangelion pulled and expected not to be laughed at for), etc. The trick is finding the good anime (no s for the plural. "You wouldn't say Chineses." )amidst the loads of not-so-good stuff. It's like any other medium that way: it even has its own version of the incredibly stupid "indie music elitist" type fans.


In case it wasn't obvious from the rest of the post, I'm a fan of Naruto. Or at least I maintain enough interest in it that I can apply the title to myself. This comes out of my liking it for it's good points (relatively original approach to fighting anime genre in places, the generic appeal of fighting anime shows), while being able to recognize and even laugh heartily about the bad (Kishimoto is an INCREDIBLY inconsistent writer).

I find this makes me a happier person than the people I keep running into who will seize and harp on any bad aspect of a show/movie/series/etc. they can find or, barring actual flaws, invent. Probably a better one too, but I'll ignore the temptation of the high horse and not state that as a definite.

So two final notes!

One: Damn you people and your positive reviews of Ninja Storm, now I'm vaguely interested in it. I mean, what does it say when almost all the comments on a game are positive, when almost all the people commenting hate the source material?

Two: He wears orange because it's an utterly stupid color for a ninja to wear. This is one of the examples of Kishimoto's writing being GOOD: there are repeated comments by other characters in the manga/show that the outfit is ridiculous (Literally, "What kind of ninja wears orange?"). He made him terrible at being a ninja AND annoying as a character at the start, presumably to allow for character growth. Exactly how much of that growth has been ACHIEVED is a subject for debate in a forum where there's more than one fan posting.






....dear sweet hamster jesus, I have to stop writing such long posts.
 

shadow skill

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One: Damn you people and your positive reviews of Ninja Storm, now I'm vaguely interested in it. I mean, what does it say when almost all the comments on a game are positive, when almost all the people commenting hate the source material?
It means the team knew how to take pure shit source material and capture it's good parts? Something many teams would do well to learn how to do. I can't count how many times people have taken decent source material and made a crappy game out of what should have been at least alright.
 

Pyre1million

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shadow skill said:
One: Damn you people and your positive reviews of Ninja Storm, now I'm vaguely interested in it. I mean, what does it say when almost all the comments on a game are positive, when almost all the people commenting hate the source material?
It means the team knew how to take pure shit source material and capture it's good parts? Something many teams would do well to learn how to do. I can't count how many times people have taken decent source material and made a crappy game out of what should have been at least alright.
I think the appropriate response to that is "amen".