Why is there no England, Scotland etc. option in country options on every site ever
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Legally they are all the same country(for example UK only gets one vote in the UN and such). I would argue it would make sense that when picking countries that they give you options of countries(Scotland, England are not countries as such but rather part of the United Kingdom)IRBaboon said:
I want to have the option to choose from all 16 German states because I don't want to be grouped in with Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, weird people that they are.
And I think the Americans'd probably want all 50 states to choose from, as well.
Sure, this makes a lot of sense.
And I think the Americans'd probably want all 50 states to choose from, as well.
Sure, this makes a lot of sense.
Nah, I'm fine with just United States. (Not even "of America", we're so awesome everyone knows which group of States that happen to be United we are.)Skeleon said:
Yes, I speak for all of us.
You're right! I should be able to display my scottish nationality with pride! what's 4 extra countries anyway?
Umm no offence but I can kind of tell that you aren't English, I'll take a guess of Scottish?
Back OT: Legally the UK is a country. But to be honest for most sites I don't see why you need to enter your country anyway.
Back OT: Legally the UK is a country. But to be honest for most sites I don't see why you need to enter your country anyway.
Why? Do you realize how stupid this is? Don't you realize your one big fucking country all together?
Frankly, I find the petty squabling between you guys pathetic. Enough with the fucking divides and other stupid shit. How are we supposed to go along preaching the values of tolerance and fraternity between the various people of the world when there's people like you who don't even identify as British? You make me sick.
And no, they're not individual countries.
Frankly, I find the petty squabling between you guys pathetic. Enough with the fucking divides and other stupid shit. How are we supposed to go along preaching the values of tolerance and fraternity between the various people of the world when there's people like you who don't even identify as British? You make me sick.
And no, they're not individual countries.
They are nations not countries. Countries and nations may be the same thing a lot of the time which causes confusion.IRBaboon said:
A nation is formed a group of people defined by their origins. Naturally this is not an exact science depending on how wide you cast the net. So on the one hand Scotland is a nation if you take the Scots as a separate people, however others may see Scots are part of the same people as other Britons, so define it as a British nation.* A country is a political entity, usually defined by its political sovereignty. As the UK is a politically independent nation it is a country, England, Scotland etc. are not autonomous and so not countries.
* Many Scots will malky you for associating them with the English. Many English will consider asking what malky means, before smelling the special brew and thinking better of it.
Edit: for clarity and grammar
Well I think you're just being picky. That's almost like wanting an option for every single state in America. Great Britain/United Kingdom is what our nation is, so why do you want to be so overly patriotic over something so trivial? I appreciate that for various anal reasons, most of the UK doesn't like England, but they're part of the same unit, so they should stop whining or go somewhere else. I'm not particularly patriotic, but I think this whole argument is stupid.
Just to clear something up, you can not really draw comparisons between the American States and the various "nations" within the UK. Largely because of the thousands of years of warfare stretching back to Roman times between the British states. Scotland, N.Ireland and Wales also have their own languages, and cultures. Then in 1707 there was the act of the Union between England and Scotland, and Britain was formed. (Wales was already conquered by Edward III,(remember him from Braveheart?) and there was much unrest in Ireland until very recently.
The trauma of many centuries of warfare have been gradually healing since then, but how much powers the various states have is murky territory. Scotland Wales and N.Ireland where given more power in 1997, Scotland and Wales seem to have control over their own education, whilst receive money from England.It's all very confusing, and you and I are not the first and last people to be confused by the politics of the British Isles- to much history can be a bad thing XD
I just think about it like this- I am English national, I am also a British national, as well as an EU citizen.
The trauma of many centuries of warfare have been gradually healing since then, but how much powers the various states have is murky territory. Scotland Wales and N.Ireland where given more power in 1997, Scotland and Wales seem to have control over their own education, whilst receive money from England.It's all very confusing, and you and I are not the first and last people to be confused by the politics of the British Isles- to much history can be a bad thing XD
I just think about it like this- I am English national, I am also a British national, as well as an EU citizen.
Well just to clarify the United Kingdom is some what unique in the fact that England, Scotland and Wales and I believe to some degree Northern Ireland are recognised as countries but are not in themselves independant. The act of union formed the United Kingdom and that more or less meant that the individual countries are managed as single country. It's a bit of a strange arrangement and is also why in the UK in many areas we have the option of either entering sports as the UK or as individual countries which is why in sports like Football for example the national teams are England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Island but we don't have a British team.
There are a lot of debates in the UK about the status of the individual countries and the Union and this is often aggravated by the lack of awareness that outside countries have of our relationship and individuality. Although in the UK we are all 'British' we are also English, Welsh etc and it's often aggravating for people from the UK to be described as English particularly since it's a common error. If you are Scottish for example, and you might be a Scot who believes greatly in the United Kingdom, and you are described as English I doubt you will find a single one that wouldn't be offended by that not that I'm Scottish I'm English but that is kind of how it works here.
It can be confusing for people that do not understand the culture, take the release of the Libyan in Scotland for example. I use it as an example not as away of creating a new debate but quite often especially in the American media it has been described as Britain releasing him, then Scotland in other posts it has been about the English etc. Some countries within the United Kingdom have powers to make decisions independently of the other 3 and sometimes it's not all together clear to even us in the UK if a decision has been made by Britain as a whole or as an independent act by a member of the Union.
There are a lot of debates in the UK about the status of the individual countries and the Union and this is often aggravated by the lack of awareness that outside countries have of our relationship and individuality. Although in the UK we are all 'British' we are also English, Welsh etc and it's often aggravating for people from the UK to be described as English particularly since it's a common error. If you are Scottish for example, and you might be a Scot who believes greatly in the United Kingdom, and you are described as English I doubt you will find a single one that wouldn't be offended by that not that I'm Scottish I'm English but that is kind of how it works here.
It can be confusing for people that do not understand the culture, take the release of the Libyan in Scotland for example. I use it as an example not as away of creating a new debate but quite often especially in the American media it has been described as Britain releasing him, then Scotland in other posts it has been about the English etc. Some countries within the United Kingdom have powers to make decisions independently of the other 3 and sometimes it's not all together clear to even us in the UK if a decision has been made by Britain as a whole or as an independent act by a member of the Union.