Why is there no England, Scotland etc. option in country options on every site ever

[Legion]

They all speak English, right?

So does America, Ireland and Canada...

Well I think you're just being picky. That's almost like wanting an option for every single state in America. Great Britain/United Kingdom is what our nation is, so why do you want to be so overly patriotic over something so trivial? I appreciate that for various anal reasons, most of the UK doesn't like England, but they're part of the same unit, so they should stop whining or go somewhere else. I'm not particularly patriotic, but I think this whole argument is stupid.

Indeed. As long as it is the currency is known as the "British pound" and the Government is "The British government" then it is just pickiness.

Why? Do you realize how stupid this is? Don't you realize your one big fucking country all together?

Frankly, I find the petty squabling between you guys pathetic. Enough with the fucking divides and other stupid shit. How are we supposed to go along preaching the values of tolerance and fraternity between the various people of the world when there's people like you who don't even identify as British? You make me sick.

And no, they're not individual countries.

Do you know anything of British history? Most of the countries don't want to be associated with each other, they've been invasions over it and everything.

That said, the option is pointless, that I do agree on. Although you are over-reacting just a little bit.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Is it just me, probably is, but I hate the fact that all sites only give us the option of United Kingdom, should it not give us the option to choose between England, Scotland, Northern Ireland or Wales? Each of these are individual countries, aren't they?

To be honest, I think it makes such a minimal difference that they can afford to just group it.

 

[Nivag the Owl]

Welcome!

I'm from England too but this has never really bothered me. You have to remember that most American states are almost as big as the UK, and they don't even get to pick their state. So being able to pick an individual country within our tiny continent might be a little bit pointless.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

As a rather dull but probably right answer, I think its basically just down to legal and economic needs.

Most laws cover the UK, not Wales, Scotland, England, etc separately, so its just not necessary for them to know any more than 'UK'.

Also, I assume we're talking web forms mainly, say you've bought a new printer, you go to register it, once they know you're in the UK they know which version of the model you bought. They'll ship the same one to all of the UK, whereas they need different power supplies for other countries.

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

Do you know anything of British history? Most of the countries don't want to be associated with each other, they've been invasions over it and everything.

Of course I know, I am half-British after all, but the past is the past, and should be left go. All of them are better of being British anyway. United we stand,divided we fall.

There is no place for this petty and divisive nationalism in the 21st century.

 

[PizzaDentist]

Legally they are all the same country(for example UK only gets one vote in the UN and such). I would argue it would make sense that when picking countries that they give you options of countries(Scotland, England are not countries as such but rather part of the United Kingdom)

One vote in the UN but four teams in the World Cup... someone is hedging their bets, me thinks. But like every 4 years, I'm sure you'll win it this time

 

[captainwolfos]

May I just remind you all that Scottish bank notes are slightly different to other countries in Britain. Discuss.

Also, saying that all of the countries of Britain are just one big (well, small, but you get my point) country is just like grouping the entire of Europe into one big country. I don't say I'm British, nor do I say I'm European, I'm Welsh, butt.

 

[Eldritch Warlord]

Technically speaking every State within the United States is an individual country with it's own government structure, laws, even armed forces should they wish. However they are not sovereign countries as they are all controlled by the federal government.

It's the same thing for the United Kingdoms.

And as far as my limited experience can tell there is more cultural variation among the US than the UK anyway. In just Michigan we form a distinction between "Yoopers" and "Trolls" and a variety of subcultures exist in each group.

 

[secretsantaone]

The Welsh assembly and the Scottish parliament have a lot of authority, with only decisions affecting the UK as a whole being made at westminster. It seems similar to calling a French person European because the EU decides on Europe-wide legislation.

I don't see why it shouldn't be an option. The Welsh have their own language, different national sport, culture and capital city. The Scottish are also immensely proud people and seem to like their new domestic power.

If someone wants to be represented by their nation rather than their kingdom, go ahead.

Though personally I'd prefer to be called British as I have family links in Wales, England and Scotland.

 

[social_outcast]

The entire united kingdom fits into a land mass that sums up to about the size of france (maybe a bit more, but feh) as such, the disjunction isn't significant enough - that being said, on many more specific forms you get a region box that you can specify which country - Me, I'm not too bothered, I live in Scotland > Scotland is the the UK > I live in the UK
QED

 

[Joshimodo]

They all speak English, right?

Not always.


Anyway, yeah, I agree, to some extent. There isn't that much need for it though.

 

[social_outcast]

May I just remind you all that Scottish bank notes are slightly different to other countries in Britain. Discuss.

Also, saying that all of the countries of Britain are just one big (well, small, but you get my point) country is just like grouping the entire of Europe into one big country. I don't say I'm British, nor do I say I'm European, I'm Welsh, butt.

Yeah, a lot of placed down south won't take Scottish notes, which is bullshit given we take English and Irish notes without fear of an unspeakable evil conjured from HSBC manifesting as a beast of regional desecration...

 

[zirnitra]

not really, they are officially different countries but they are devolved states of the UK, it would be a bit like giving every single American state an option.

 

[ace_of_something]

For the same reason they don't have every state in the united states listed or every providence in canada.

edit: I really should've read the other posts before I responded.

 

[ThePirateMan]

Kinda feels like saying "I'm not from America, I'm from Chicago!" "I'm not from Sweden, I'm from Svealand!(A region in Sweden)" "I'm not from noobtard land, I'm from h4xx" and so on..

The only reasonable thing would be if the different regions of the country have differences in langauge.

 

[fix-the-spade]

They all speak English, right?

Actually they Speak English, Welsh and Gaelic, there's plenty of Welsh people that can't speak English.

 

[fix-the-spade]

Because most websites are run by Americans and the Americans are ignorant of the difference. They should spend a week in Glasgow telling Glaswegians they're all English 'because they speak English'. Assuming they have enough teeth and fingers left afterwards they'd change there site's option pretty damn quick.

For the same reason they don't have every state in the united states listed or every providence in canada.

What, you mean British Columbia and Ontario are separate countries?!

It's 4 self governing countries the UK, not divisions within one, so it's not the same reason at all.

 

[Susano]

Why? Do you realize how stupid this is? Don't you realize your one big fucking country all together?

Frankly, I find the petty squabling between you guys pathetic. Enough with the fucking divides and other stupid shit. How are we supposed to go along preaching the values of tolerance and fraternity between the various people of the world when there's people like you who don't even identify as British? You make me sick.

And no, they're not individual countries.

A lot of people would disagree with you, and if they didn't there wouldn't be an Ireland. I definitely wouldn't want to call myself British. But sure, let's do it your way. Everything's in the U.K. But wait, why don't we have more tolerance? Let's call every country in the E.U. Europe.
But really, every country in the "U.K" has different languages, cultures and histories, why would you want to make that all the one?

 

[ace_of_something]

Because most websites are run by Americans and the Americans are ignorant of the difference. They should spend a week in Glasgow telling Glaswegians they're all English 'because they speak English'. Assuming they have enough teeth and fingers left afterwards they'd change there site's option pretty damn quick.

For the same reason they don't have every state in the united states listed or every providence in canada.

What, you mean British Columbia and Ontario are separate countries?!

It's 4 self governing countries the UK, not divisions within one, so it's not the same reason at all.

I hope you're aware of the irony of that statement. Does the UK not have over arcing laws and a military that includes all in it's dominion? Cuz that's about the only common thread in the USA too.
Yeah, Scotland has it's own paraliment but every state in the Union has it's own senate. I don't see how they're all that dissimlar other than the name.
Scotland is it's own country but isn't the 'united kingdom' usually the option? Is Scotland NOT in the United Kingdom?

I do see your point however. As the People of Guam, Purto Rico, and parts of Samoa don't have to list themselves as being US Citizens. (although the virgin islands usually have to *shrug*)

 

[Smudge91]

I'd call myself British rather than English.

I don't really know why, just sounds a bit better.

I do exactly the same thing. I say i'm British rather than english, heres a piece of cake.