Why many shooters will not be more popular then COD (one of many reasons.)

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Iron Mal

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Mr Pantomime said:
I always thought it was stupid to try make a COD killer or a Halo killer. All they ever end up doing is make a similar game. Whos going to buy a game thats pretty much the same as the one they have?
This was the main reason I was suprised that Bad Company 2 got a huge following when it was released, it was the same damn game with less variety.
 

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Mr.K. said:
When you mention customization I think you are forgetting the core component of humanity:
1. we are lazy
2. we prefer to be dumb, because we are lazy
So does that include you or are you one of the 'enlightened exceptions'? So you're either a lazy idiot like the rest of us or are in need of cranial exctraction from the rectum.

I never liked it when people say 'people are lazy, dumb, evil, destructive and steal cookies from kittens' because the people saying it usually seem to think that they are the sole exception to the rule (so arrogance is better than ignorance?).

Laziness:
I have told just about anyone who has ever played Portal and loved the hell out of it about 2 expansion packs that add not just 60 extra levels, but whole new stories(the expansions actually last longer then the base game).
And even tho that shit is free and I provided them with a direct link to download the expansions not even 5% of those people actually checked it out, and the only work that needs to be done is click a couple of times.
Maybe the people you asked weren't interested in the expansion? Maybe they were happy with the game they had already? Maybe they didn't trust you or the link (given your views on humanity I can see why they wouldn't)?

Not doing something isn't always the result of laziness.

Preference to ignorance:
As soon as you mention to someone they need to know a little extra to modify/play a game they start to pull back, or just switch to ignoring you because you mentioned new knowledge.
I always wanted my gaming friends to get into modding, but to no avail, they will play a game as it comes and never do anything with it, even getting them to try an expansion takes a heck of persistence to penetrate that veil of ignorance.
Maybe they have a good reason to avoid mods? They just like the original game? They don't trust mods or have had a bad history with them (this would be me)? Are you sure that is this ignorance? Or just you being a bad salesman?

Accusing people of laziness and ignorance just shows how arrogant you are (and that is much worse).
 

Retardinator

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Maybe less shooters should try being like Call of Duty and just be themselves. Uniqueness goes a long way.
Besides, there were some shooters which had customization options before CoD and they still didn't do as well.
 

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COD is just the flavor of the month, the next big release will top this one. They said Halo Reach was here to stay but it's blowing like dust in the wind like any other past FPS.
 

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Korten12 said:
It doesn't matter what you think of the seires but you must admit, it has a bunch of customization, more then most shooters.

Edit: I think some people are being mistaken and thinking this the ONLY reason, no this is one good reason. Their are many reasons, as been stated, marketing, and its fanbase but you can't deny that the customization isn't not appealing.
1. i don't have to "admit" there's lots of customisation, you can simply count the possibilities. how that makes a game a *better* game then others eludes me.
2. oh, you have no idea, how i can deny that the customisation stuff isn't not appealing (watch carefully): all that stuff you listed, that i could customize IF i wanted, doesn't matter to me - not in the slightest. yes, i do care mainly about the gameplay (wtf?! gameplay?? who needs that?? we want fancy stuff to attach to our guns and uniforms and shit!!).
thinking back to good old BF2 i can only say that i didn't give a [censored word here] about the fact that every single AT was the same afro-american dude, and that you, as an army, actually wore uniform uniforms, e.t.c. p.p. - and i wasn't the only one back then; no one cared. i still don't care. i want a good game.
how does it make a game better if i can choose between blond or brown hair?
no, sorry, it doesn't.

look, it's fine that you like all that fluff, and that you like the new CoD and all. but please allow others to have different opinions about things, ok?
and no, i'm not a CoD hater. it's not a bad game. but if i wanted to dress up my character and my possessions, i'd play, like, Gaia Online or something like that, and not an FPS. which is about gameplay. in my humble opinion.
 

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I don't know. I guess there were a lot of different options for customization, but honestly, I never really noticed them in game. Besides, I usually just picked one combination of things and stuck with that almost all the time, even when I played differently. I think that this is a minor reason.
 

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Iron Mal said:
Mr Pantomime said:
I always thought it was stupid to try make a COD killer or a Halo killer. All they ever end up doing is make a similar game. Whos going to buy a game thats pretty much the same as the one they have?
This was the main reason I was suprised that Bad Company 2 got a huge following when it was released, it was the same damn game with less variety.
I have to disagree completely unless you mean single player(BFBC2 did not have amazing single player, neither did COD). online BFBC2 is very different to cod and much better in my opinion.
OT: Customisation is addictive in games and has much the same effect as a levelling system making players motivated to keep playing online or just making them feel special.
 

Korten12

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s0p0g said:
Korten12 said:
It doesn't matter what you think of the seires but you must admit, it has a bunch of customization, more then most shooters.

Edit: I think some people are being mistaken and thinking this the ONLY reason, no this is one good reason. Their are many reasons, as been stated, marketing, and its fanbase but you can't deny that the customization isn't not appealing.
1. i don't have to "admit" there's lots of customisation, you can simply count the possibilities. how that makes a game a *better* game then others eludes me.
2. oh, you have no idea, how i can deny that the customisation stuff isn't not appealing (watch carefully): all that stuff you listed, that i could customize IF i wanted, doesn't matter to me - not in the slightest. yes, i do care mainly about the gameplay (wtf?! gameplay?? who needs that?? we want fancy stuff to attach to our guns and uniforms and shit!!).
thinking back to good old BF2 i can only say that i didn't give a [censored word here] about the fact that every single AT was the same afro-american dude, and that you, as an army, actually wore uniform uniforms, e.t.c. p.p. - and i wasn't the only one back then; no one cared. i still don't care. i want a good game.
how does it make a game better if i can choose between blond or brown hair?
no, sorry, it doesn't.

look, it's fine that you like all that fluff, and that you like the new CoD and all. but please allow others to have different opinions about things, ok?
and no, i'm not a CoD hater. it's not a bad game. but if i wanted to dress up my character and my possessions, i'd play, like, Gaia Online or something like that, and not an FPS. which is about gameplay. in my humble opinion.
Woah woah woah, first of all calm down.

People can have their own opinions on it, I wasn't denying anyone of any of their opinions, if they don't find any of that appealing thats fine. You don't need to be a dick about it. I was simply saying to the people who might be like that and of course not everyone is going to be like that. You didn't need to point that out, acting like you want to get into an agrument.
 

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Retardinator said:
Maybe less shooters should try being like Call of Duty and just be themselves. Uniqueness goes a long way.
Besides, there were some shooters which had customization options before CoD and they still didn't do as well.
How do you suggest that? There hasn't been a unique FPS in 10 years. Call of Duty is just a Medal of Honor clone which was just a clone of an earlier FPS.
 
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Korten12 said:
Ah Korten I'd hardly call what CoD does as true customisation. They are little more than passive skills that affect different weapon sets. The weapon set themselves are no more than random stats that are usually ill thought out and improperly balanced as of late. They aren't even classes of builds or anything similar despite being named as such. Custmoisation and choice is nice but you can take it too far when it comes to weapons. Just look at Halo you don't even use 1/2 of the weapons in the story.
 

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For what I have seen, the idea of trying to dethrone another game, by making it similar, but better, almost never works.

The game loses it's identity and will usually be marked as a "clone".

Innovation and originality is the way to go.
 

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forsinain42 said:
Timesplitters had a map creation mode and that is why it's the best FPS ever made. :)
Wish for shooters would have map creation mode, Far Cry 2 had a good one.
 

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Character customization in shooters isn't going to make the mext CoD or Halo. You'd be naive to think that. What we need is a big company to pick up Star Wars Battlefront 3. That would be the easiest game market to the masses since the Star Wars movies are being re-re-released in 3-D. And people have been waiting for this game for about 5 years now. I also think that this is a title that EA could get behind. EA Los Angeles is pretty much the former developrs of Pandemic, who made the fisrt two SW:Battlefront games. With EA picking up the game it would most likely succed and become a big hit. Honestly what would you pick up if they were released on the same day, Sw Battlefront 3 or another CoD game?
 

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A game i found really good on the PS3 was Resistance Fall Of Man Two.
It had a lot of character customization and had a very good multiplayer (co-op and competitive) as well as balanced and effective gameplay. However this still doesn't make it as popular as CoD because of its Inhumanly large Fanbase, and thats all that really matters for games nowadays, having a good name.
 

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I can see what you're saying. The ranking and customization option are definitely one thing that attract people to COD.